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     Blake |
Figured I'd check in on Facebook this morning to see news and what friends and family are up to on this pagan celebration day of the giant glittering ball-drop. I'd last visited a few days ago and had commented on a news feed item showing video of a violent tirade perpetrated by a lunatic who was unintentionally "misgendered" as "sir" by a sincerely apologetic cashier in a video game store.: https://www.theblaze.com/news/video-transgender-woman-screams-at-clerk-over-sir The thought police disapproved of my comment and have disciplined me accordingly, no lie. Good way to start the new year?  If you were in the store with your young son, daughter, grandson, or granddaughter, how would you have handled the situation? Call 911? The man badly needs help. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1595013/pos ts #26 applies. I'm an outspoken advocate of equal rights for gays & straights. I have gay ( for purposes of this discussion, that's defined as same sex preference or bi, either sex ) friends and relatives. Your free speech rights include declaring yourself a man, mam, or attack helicopter. After all, we don't blink when Hillary blames women being slaves to their men for her loss. Lots of people are insane, and political speech is protected. Except of course on the criminal, privately owned, propaganda/surveillance machines like Facebook, Twitter & Google. No free speech there. No accountability either. See #15.... On. But you don't have to believe I'm a Comanche helicopter. And I can't force you to agree with me, or address me as such. Even my gay friends, and some are pretty nutty, agree that there is a deliberate balkanization of their own fringe of society. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/balkani ze And that it is ruining their quest for equality and acceptance. There's less agreement on who is to blame, but all admit that it's a deliberate manipulation by bad people. I, myself, ask my few trans acquaintances to be patient when I forget their chosen names, or use the "wrong" pronoun. "I've changed your diaper, and moved you out of your mother's house to your first college dorm. I cheered when you announced you were going to marry your high school girlfriend. Cut me some slack on forgetting to call you Fred." actual quote, name changed. | ||
| Aesquire |
Blake, getting a Facebook ban is like being accused of not being a good Nazi. Wear it with pride. Great way to start the year.  | ||
| Ebutch |
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| Blake |
Patrick, For sure a great way to start the new year. Good answer. It's not the first time. That was earlier in the year after posting a meme with a quote from the actual Nazi party leadership declaring Nazi party and thus by default, Hitler, Socialists along with all the very "Progressive" policies it supported. An actual quote. It also had Hitler's image. I'm not making sense of your gay rights comments. What rights don't gays have that you feel the need to so staunchly advocate for? The right to be appointed Baptist clergy? Seems to me that most of the LGBTQ activism is aiming for the right to constantly shove their personal lives/lifestyles down everyone's' throats. People are sick of it. Show me unalienable rights being violated and I'll join the advocacy. Make up new rights to shove the LGBTQ lifestyle down my throat and the throats of children, sooner or later at some point people will lose patience. Appeasing someone that is literally mentally ill is doing them no favor. 40% of people afflicted with gender dysphoria commit suicide. Maybe there's a difference between those who think they're the opposite of their genetic sex/gender and those who desire to be the opposite sex/gender. You ever wanna be female?  | ||
| Aesquire |
Want? nah. I'd probably be an uglier thing than the rage queen screaming "mam" on that video. There is no way to make someone actually change sex with 20th century technology, and the hormone and surgery attempts are for desperately unhappy people, and not very successful at keeping them from suicide, either. However, if you come up with a magic spell that will make me a physically near perfect 20 again, but I have to be female, I'd probably take it. I'd hope your spell would be available again in 40 years and then I'd be male again. I'm not sure if I'd take the spell if it meant I had to be unhappy with my "gender". That 40% figure is pretty darn bleak. I'd say most, but not all of the equal rights problems gays have had are now solved. They might disagree. Don't ask me the remaining ones, I'm more interested in not losing the rights I have now than buffing up the rights of others. Selfish of me, but if I can't speak freely, neither can a teen lesbian. Ditto the right to bear arms, etc. Heck, almost all the legal problems the Klan Party has screwed the Black Americans with should be solved by now. The soft racism typified by the notion that blacks are too stupid to get IDs to vote or get good grades or make decisions without their rich white Democrat Masters helping them is a bit harder to solve. As far as forcing acceptance? Tell 'em to kiss your shiny metal...... EVERY group wants acceptance. Too bad. It just doesn't work that way. It takes time, and humble action, to gain trust and acceptance. I suggest you tell people that, baldly, but politely. It took years for the Irish to get accepted, and the folk of African descent would have been except for the ongoing racism of the Klan Party. In fact, there is actually some grumbling in "the gay community" ( I read it online! It must be so! ) that now that being gay is "normal" that they don't feel as special as they once did, and miss it. The irony, and humanity in that idea.... I believe it. | ||
| Crusty |
Just remember, "The Woods Are Full of Cuckoos" http://www.topcartoons.tv/woods-full-cuckoos/ | ||
| H0gwash |
FWIW the people who know what crazy is, the American Psychiatric Association, removed the 'disorder' from their old classification "Gender Identity Disorder" in 2013. Now it's just called "Gender Dysphoria." | ||
| Ourdee |
Gender dysphoria definition is - a distressed state arising from conflict between a person's gender identity and the sex the person has or was identified as having Yoohoo..... | ||
| Torquehd |
Body Dismorphic Disorder is a sickness. Deut 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God. Man was created in God's image. We resemble God. The female form, in all of its beauty, was created later and separately. It was designed to give man a hard-on. Not to look like a 13 yearold boy or a jabba-the-superdike. When men dress like women, it's a backhand to God. And when women try to make themselves look like males, it's a backhand to God. It's giving God the middle finger. Don't think He doesn't notice or care. You can pretend all you want that morality is man-made and fluid with time. But you'll be sorry when you stand before God. And you will. Edit. I work with a guy who is pretending to be a woman. I seldom see this guy ( i refuse to call him a girl just because he's in spongebob imagination world). If I ever get the opportunity to talk to him, although I want to be a raging jerk, I won't be. The bible makes it clear that we are to speak the Truth. In love. It's often difficult to merge truth and love. I recently watched a video about a viking tomb. The warrior buried there was assumed to be a male as "he" was buried with "his" horses, axes, sword, etc. Then scientists ran some DNA tests on the decayed flesh and discovered that she was a badass shield-maiden. Chromosomes don't lie. There is such a thing as Male, and Female, and Truth. Fantasy does not create reality. (Message edited by torquehd on January 01, 2019) | ||
| H0gwash |
Maybe church is a better setting for an Old Testament confrontation. | ||
| Torquehd |
We're all free to voice our opinions. This is a discussion board. That means people get to share their opinions. If you have an opinion, share it. I won't tell you not to. That's why forums were created. I've had good discussion with you in the past although you and I disagree on some points. And, there's no evidence of Abominations to God changing over time, so it's not confined to being "Old Testament", just because it was recorded in "Old Testament" times. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I got flagged for commenting on that same video... My comment was something along the lines of "way to get more respect for the rest of the tranny population by acting like an escaped monkey from the zoo." My comment was censored, I got a nasty note about it, and the message was that my words went against the community guidelines on Facebook. F them. A tranny is a tranny, and I don't care who's offended that I don't like the idea of people mutilating themselves physically and mentally. People who behave this way have a mental health problem and should be removed from society. (Message edited by pwnzor on January 01, 2019) | ||
| H0gwash |
My opinion is that God doesn't care about the clothes we wear, it is the least thing important to him. He sees thru them, to the invisible. I see you provided chapter and verse though, so I respect that, it is a real thing in Deuteronomyland. That's pretty much my entire opinion, other than what if Spongebob guy runs screaming to HR? Is there and HR? | ||
| Ourdee |
I believe it had mental health issues in the video. The clerk was very polite and professional. I would have cranked it up with a comment like, "You're not acting like a lady." | ||
| Ourdee |
I believe God cares about the clothes we wear. He likes us to dress modestly. So, we do not incite lust in others. | ||
| H0gwash |
Matt- IMHO you should have been just inside any foul line the way you phrased it. | ||
| Ourdee |
1 Timothy 2:9 - In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; . | ||
| Torquehd |
Why do you believe that God doesn't care about your clothing? I assume that you believe in God based upon your statement. What do you think IS important to God? | ||
| H0gwash |
"You're not acting like a lady." So true. It only serves to further freak out the poor clerk. Yet another sad case of BAD DRAG. I probably agree with you halfway on the lustful dressing thing. I don't believe that a man dressed as a woman is inherently pornographic though it can certainly be easily made to be. | ||
| H0gwash |
I think personal character is more important to God than street clothing. EDIT I should clarify I am more an atheist than a Christian. (Message edited by h0gwash on January 02, 2019) | ||
| 86129squids |
Is this real news? Hell's bells. Can we not find anything positive to talk about yet????? I'm on Patrick's side, since all we can do nowadays is find one side or another to be on. I've known lots of gays. Lots of gays have hit on me, I take it as a compliment, and say "thanks, not my flavor." "Bird Cage" is one of my favorite movies, and I love a good drag show. I agree that surgery to change gender is a waste of money and time, just buy some good makeup and a few wigs or whatever. I don't care who bumps uglies, as long as it's private. It's none of my business. We should all carry on as a civil society. Oh, and I've worked over the years with lots of immigrants. Never asked for their papers, just appreciated their work and called them friends. FWIW, I was raised Baptist, accepted Jesus at age 11, studied logic and philosophy, and I'm agnostic. I try to follow the Gospels. I'll see what happens later, hope for the best. Jeez. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I hear you Brad. The point here is that the man in the miniskirt was completely out of pocket, and people get flagged or banned for commenting about it. If calling a transsexual a tranny is offensive then I guess I'm just offensive. | ||
| Blake |
Joe, I hear you brother. I started the new year looking to connect and interact positively with friends and family, but without warning was rudely and dictatorially thwarted from doing so because someone didn't like at least one of two sentences that I publicly shared last week concerning a real news report about a lunatic threatening people with violence. Did you know that In some school districts vulnerable socially awkward school children are essentially being groomed into transgendering with full support of school authorities? One teacher recently blew the whistle on that in a school in England. In other cases children are taken from parents who refuse to accept their child's desire to transgender. All that evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Question: Isn't it impossible to both follow the gospel of Christ and be agnostic? "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul" is prime directive number one, yes? It would seem difficult to so completely love one whose very existence you claim is unknown to you. Maybe you should be more positive in that regard.  (Message edited by Blake on January 02, 2019) | ||
| Hootowl |
My take on it is this: There is no known cure for gender dysmorphia. It doesn’t get a lot of funding (the 70 billion we spend on climate change confirmation (it’s not really research - the conclusion is predetermined) sucks up quite a bit of grant money). And anyone attempting to find a cure would be tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail, metaphorically speaking, by the lbgtqszcnp crowd and their perpetually offended band of un-merry little social justice warriors. So the best we can realistically do, for the unfortunate souls so afflicted, is play along with their delusion. Perhaps there will be a cure some day. Also, please pardon my grammar with reference to the nested parenthetical. I’m a bit of a rebel.  | ||
| Aesquire |
Nested parentheticals are my bread & butter. Common in math, law, and everywhere ADD meets OCD. AKA, life. I'm going to ignore any religious arguments that don't involve the Golden Rule and the love of your Deity for all who accept the teachings of Jesus to Love one another. And no, that's not a demand you hump your neighbor. I oppose Sharia with the same calm certainty I oppose hatred without cause. I'm well past caring about one rude, ill person's 15 minutes of fame for rage on the internet. I have pity for the folk affected by the bile, and hope the rage filled human gets help. All else is dross. | ||
| Blake |
Keeping people safe? How tyrants justify their tyranny?:  My explanation submitted was met with...  | ||
| Blake |
Same as last time. | ||
| Blake |
H0gwash, "FWIW the people who claim to know what crazy is, the American Psychiatric Association, removed the 'disorder' from their old classification "Gender Identity Disorder" in 2013. Now it's just called "Gender Dysphoria." Boldface added by me. Are you incredulous to the idea that said organization, like so many others in America, has been subverted towards political activism over science and truth? Isn't it amazing that an affliction that has people thinking that they literally are something that they scientifically are not, that they scientifically can not ever become is suddenly proclaimed not a disorder? What exactly is it then? Do you think that affirming such scientific falsehood as legitimate and healthy is helpful or harmful? Might there be a better approach to helping such poor souls (40% suicide rate), and protecting society at large from those with violent tendencies? Politically I don't care. People should be free to dress and act as they like short of causing a public ruckus and threatening people for failing to recognize their fantasy. They can imagine they're an alien from Mars for all I care, so long as they don't try to force me to participate in their fantasy. (Message edited by blake on January 02, 2019) |
