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S3ters
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where in northern IL Or southern WI. might a dealer have the rear bearing and tool to install?
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Nillaice
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'd just drift them out and press in the new set (after leaving them in the freezer overnight) with a long piece of all-thread and some uni-strut washers ... but I'm cheap and crafty like that.
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S3ters
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 03:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Went to hals.Still have to overnight them but will install in the am during their rally prep
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a good idea to keep some spare bearings on hand, especially if you still have a 2-bearing wheel.
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S3ters
Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2017 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll check for spares on the net.
Probably failed due to tire changes on the road and not using torque specs.
Stopped in E Troy for nostalgia reasons....sad.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2017 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DO NOT torque the axles on an XB, tighten snug and torque the PINCH BOLTS.

This is as important as running a loose belt on a Tuber.

Z
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2017 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run a loose belt on the XB.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2017 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am amazed the tight belt on an XB doesn't seem to cause problems with the output bearing.
My little brother has my old Firebolt and he has over 60k miles on it.
No issues other than the motor is a bit tired.
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Phelan
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2017 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Because the XB belt has much less carbon Kevlar content than the old Gates belts, and much more rubber content. They are designed to have a "stretched" fit. This is why running an XB belt on a tuber it will jump teeth if you run it as loose as the Sportster based Gates belt.
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Phelan
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2017 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Axle torquing is largely dependant on whether the bearings were correctly installed and how many times the wheels have been overtorqued, if any. The brake side bearing is supposed to be installed first, with the drive side bearing(s) installed last. This actually guarantees that with a proper length axle spacer, the outer race of the drive side bearing is not in contact with the inner wall of the wheel behind the race. In this scenario, proper torque on the axle with only load the inner races enough to keep them from spinning on the axle. Not enough torque allows the inner races to spin on the axle in certain situations, causing burring and wear. With proper installation, too much torque will move in the outer race of the drive side bearing, but will not seize it up against the inner wall of the wheel, which is what improper installation and/or too short of an inner spacer will cause. When the outer race is seized against the inner wall, that is when the bearing and wheel are tweaked and will cause damage to both in short time. Each time the axle is over torqued, it significantly deforms and shortens the axle spacer, and with excessive over torquing or multiple overtorques, causes previously mentioned failure.

(Message edited by phelan on September 11, 2017)
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Monday, September 11, 2017 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

McHenry Harley Davidson. They still have a Buell tech that works there and I use them to fix my Uly. Only 3 miles from where I live also!
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Jhallgren
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2017 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Don, how recent was it that you were at McHenry HD? I have been trying to find a dealer in my area that still services Buell to help track down an odd issue. Last time I was there, I asked if they still serviced Buell, And I got a deer in the headlights look. They never said they still had a Buell tech. This would be good to know.
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Tootal
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2017 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not familiar with the tubers. Do they have a pulley that bends the belt backwards like an XB? I've always contended that the belt being bent backwards is the reason for shorter belt life on the XB. My Harley goes 80,000 miles with no problems and it has more weight and much more torque than the Buell. I only changed it at 80,000 because I had to fix the starter gear on the clutch basket. It looked just fine though. Just because the factory says that the belt was designed to be bent backwards doesn't mean doing so has no effect on it.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2017 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>"running an XB belt on a tuber it will jump teeth if you run it as loose as the Sportster based Gates belt."

YEP! My X1 scraped off all of the teeth doing that.
I thought the tranny was killed but I just had a smooth belt. And a big ball of teeth under the front sprocket cover!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In my world, we called that a "cascade failure".. dominoes
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