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Sifo
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 10:39 am: |
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Pwnzor
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 11:32 am: |
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It's going to be fun watching Trump overturn these last minute executive orders to ban offshore drilling. |
Strokizator
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 05:16 pm: |
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Ain't gonna be that easy. The way Obama enacted it "in perpetuity" it'll take 60 votes in the Senate to overturn followed by lengthy environazi lawsuits. This just chaps my hide. He's set for life but to hell with the rest of us. I've got your legacy right here, Bozo! I sure hope I'm misinformed. |
04xl1200c
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 07:17 pm: |
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Any "Executive Order" is just that, what is just signed with his pen can be struck down with the next President's pen. Thankfully the Republic doesn't allow laws to be enacted by Executive order. |
Pwnzor
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 07:35 pm: |
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04xl1200c has it right. What was done by one man without the senate, can be undone by the next man without the senate. |
1313
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 07:52 pm: |
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04xl1200c has it right. As if that won't go to his head... (Message edited by 1313 on December 21, 2016) |
Strokizator
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 08:28 pm: |
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From the Competitive Enterprise Institute Can a drilling ban imposed by the stroke a presidential pen be revoked just as easily? Obama officials told E&E News that the controlling legal authority, Section 12(a) of the 1953 Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act (OCSLA), is a one way street. Whereas the provision expressly authorizes the president to “withdraw from disposition any of the unleased lands of the Outer Continental Shelf,” it contains no explicit authority to reverse withdrawals once made. |
04xl1200c
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 08:38 pm: |
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Hey 1313, even I can be right once in a while!!! |
Blake
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2016 - 02:01 am: |
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"Obama officials told E&E News..." When deceivers speak, the press parrots. It's a non-issue now anyway. Last I knew, deep water oil production isn't viable until,the price gets above $70 or more. The offshore authority should go to the states anyway. |
Madduck
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2016 - 04:17 am: |
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*Actually it is simpler than that. Trump can just pardon any corp. violating this ban. Slightly more difficult is to make the penalty for violating the ban $10 a year. Enforcement actions will be up to his Dept. of Energy. Life is good when you are the President of the United States. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2016 - 09:37 am: |
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In the immortal words of Walter Sobchek, "they can f@$&ing unpost it!" |
Aesquire
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2016 - 12:14 pm: |
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443269/obama -energy-policy-unilateral-directives-can-be-revers ed Each time you give power to your preferred group you take power or rights from your enemies. If you're the Holy Roman Empire and expect to rule forever this is a winning strategy. If you're the Party that has ruled most of the last century, you may expect that you're going to stay in power forever. But you are wrong. This applies across the spectrum. Time & again people demand that the folk in temporary charge be given power to ......fix the economy. ......fight terrorism. ....save the Earth from human civilization. ..... and then excuse abuses of rights & power because it's necessary and expedient. Always ignoring that in a Republic next year or next decade the same power will be in the hands of the running dog capitalists....or fascists. Barry has shown that despite his "dedication" to idealistic communist buzzword lies he actually is more a fascist in the Mussolini mode mixed with Nazi Germany Leadership total corruption and a system that runs on bribery instead of merit. Simply demonstrated by the fact that when Barry was elected he was complaining about his student loans and will retire a billionaire with offshore accounts funded entirely by other people's money...... much of it in illegal foreign campaign money. Pay for Play is the always denied but obvious protocol for Barry..... taught by Bill and Hillary's example. ( I admit Barry had more class in not renting the Lincoln bedroom. Just charging to see him. Like Hillary as Sec State. ) |
Tootal
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2016 - 02:24 pm: |
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I'm going off memory here, and that's not always working properly, but I think it was Harry Truman that said that if you leave the presidency with more money than you entered with you're a crook. Or something like that. |
Macbuell
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2016 - 02:42 pm: |
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I saw an article the other day that stated Obama is the only ex President in history that will take up residence in Washington after his term is over. He has already broken with protocol and criticized the next President before he has even left office. I guess it is too hard for Obama to remember that Bush has never said or criticized him even when Obama was blaming him for every single thing under the Sun. (Message edited by Macbuell on December 23, 2016) |
Court
| Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2016 - 11:17 pm: |
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Bush had/has class. Obama doesn't even understand the concept. |
Zacks
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2016 - 08:43 am: |
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Saw the same article. Cut the man some slack. They're only staying in town so his daughter can finish her last year of high school. Anyone with kids that age can understand. But he does need to go as quietly as all previous presidents have done. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2016 - 09:29 am: |
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He has already publicly stated that intends to remain engaged in politics. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2016 - 09:43 am: |
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Cut the man some slack. Never again...
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Pwnzor
| Posted on Friday, December 23, 2016 - 10:02 am: |
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8 years of slack is plenty. I never got that much, and I work for a living which is more than I can say for the community disorganizer. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 08:12 am: |
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-24/obama-sig ns-countering-disinformation-and-propaganda-act-la w The Ministry of Truth is founded. Mark this date for future reference when you are erased. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 09:39 am: |
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I wouldn't worry about it. They'll only go after foreign sources of news. I mean, they'd have to weaponize the State Department in order to...oh shit. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 10:27 am: |
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Ungood. This isn't a State dept deal. It's the new official propaganda & silencing dept. Read article & if it's your enthusiastic R Congress critter you know who not to vote for. |
Macbuell
| Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 12:33 pm: |
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Just more proof we need term limits to get rid of career politicians. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 02:41 pm: |
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Read it again Pat. This is to be coordinated by state dept. Unless this is fake news |
Madduck
| Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 04:57 pm: |
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*I am sure President Trumps State Department will be every bit as fair/unbiased as President Obamas was! |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 05:30 pm: |
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I wish *I* could go through life this delusional... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/26/ba rack-obama-third-term-president |
Njloco
| Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 10:44 pm: |
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" I am sure President Trumps State Department will be every bit as fair/unbiased as President Obamas was!" That should be pretty easy since, Obama's state Dept was none existent! |
Aesquire
| Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 06:47 pm: |
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Yep.... I was mistaken. So the infamously soviet State dept will have a propaganda arm. How much domestic power will they have with zero feedback from American citizens? Barry promises an act of war against Russia based on Hillary campaign lies. That has to end well. Perhaps D.C. will be nuked before Jan. 20th & the planet will have a win. Hasn't Barry started enough illegal wars? Bush is due plenty of criticism for his actual actions. His wars, agree with them or not were approved by Congress ( including Hillary ) and while the follow up was idiotic State dept Screw up.... the causes in Afghanistan ( Taliban the mobster regime supporting Osama ) & Iraq ( Saddam's mobster regime supporting terrorists and stockpiles of poison gas ) were honestly presented. Including by Bill and Hillary when Bill Clinton bombed Iraq. The difference being George ended a criminal regime & Bill just torqued it off. Barry's actions have otoh been consistently against secular regimes & pro Islamist terrorist groups. Just count the terrorist attacks during George and Barry's regimes. No comparison. |
Torquehd
| Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 07:15 pm: |
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pro Islamist terrorist groups. I remember sitting in Starbucks in 2007, two baristas were talking, it went something like this, "he grew up as a muslim, so he'll probably have a better understanding of how to deal with them". He knew exactly how to deal with them. Just not in the way that benefits the US. |
Njloco
| Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 07:49 pm: |
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Israel knows exactly how to deal with them ! (Message edited by njloco on December 28, 2016) |