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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would never do it, but back when those "keep your laws off my body" pro abortion stickers were popular, I wanted to wrap a note around a brick that said "keep your laws off my bricks" and throw it through the window of a car with that bumper sticker and leave it on the seat.

Not to be violent, but as a bit of performance art illustrating the fallacy of their argument. I do want to keep my laws off their body, and I have to help them survive in utero in order for them to have any of the freedom I so very much want for them.

Never did it, never would, but it makes a good story.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of bumper stickers, I was behind a car yesterday, that had a bumper sticker that said "The right to vote protects the rest of your rights". He had s second bumper sticker too. "Bernie 2016". I wonder if he recognizes the irony?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2016 - 05:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Reepicheep I mailed a brick to Obama when I completed my Masters Degree in Healthcare Admin & Economics. ....I don't know if he read it, but the Secret Service was not amused. I had a very 'polite' conversation with two men in suits, dark glasses and gov't issue side arms.
The note outlined every failure his plan was about to meet (and has indeed since) and how to UNF*CK itself to correct it.
....
I have since sent the same proposal to Trump....I will see if that fairs any better.

I like throwing bricks ; )
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2016 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are signs of a Russian/American coalition being formed in the Obama's war in Syria. In this case the "no sheet I mean it Assad must go" Obama policy looks to be forgotten and Putin put in charge.

This annoys me in that while the anti-Assad policy is apparently all Obama's, as a play in his anti secular leader strategy. ... it's pretty much a guarantee that the non-ISIS/AQ rebels will be slaughtered. I also don't like the anti-Assad policy. Not that I like the mass murdering dictator, but it seemed incredibly stupid to attack a Russian minion state and not make an international good case to get Europe on board.... or make a good argument to the American citizens for overthrowing Assad.

Right now all I know about Obama's logic on this is "I say so" and the repeat of trying to destroy secular leaders that have kept the terrorist branches of Islam under control. Crappy leaders, sure, but functioning states.... until Obama sticks his thingy in.

However.... there is an interesting echo here from fiction.

Jerry Pournelle had written a series set in a world where the U.S. & USSR combined to form the Condominium. A world government welfare state with a ruling class aristocracy. Bad news.

The premise was the West got more & more Socialist and the Soviets got Westernized. ... met in the oppressive middle and took over.

With the fall of the Soviet Union these stories were considered obsolete as predictions. Still good work & I recommend them.

But now? If the next decade brings a uber oppressive transatlantic government like the EU on crack, it was excellent warning fiction. ( much dystopian fiction is meant as a warning of current trends )
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2016 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With today's bombing by U.S. / Australian jets specifically targeting Syrian Army assets, and NOT ISIS targets - I think any notion of US/Russia coordination will be taken off the table.

It would be wise for Russian forces to light up each and every Toyota in the region, without exception.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2016 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You were probably on a watch list before then anyway Brian. : )
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2016 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He has standing, imho.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/18/dallas-cop-fi les-lawsuit-against-black-lives-matter-obama.html
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2016 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama’s Cash-for-Jihad Program

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440121/obama -iran-cash-payments-terrorism

And Trump is a bad guy??
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2016 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2016 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-09-22 /obama-kept-military-out-of-the-loop-on-cash-payme nts-to-iran

Is it proper to send Obama to Gitmo?
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2016 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it proper to send Obama to Gitmo?


What have you got against Gitmo?
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2016 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe during his next visit to Afganistan he'll get picked up as an enemy combatant.
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Torquehd
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2016 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just assumed he'd run for caliph after his tour here. Or maybe Erdogan will create a job for him, minister of human smuggling or something.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2016 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tragic shooting at a gun free zone in washington last night.

Waiting for the president to issue a statement that the shooter broke the law by carrying a gun into a gun free zone, and that we need to ban guns.

I HATE "gun free" zones. Half of the malls i've been to in WA are "gun free" zones, and it makes me nervous every time I have to turn around at the front door and leave my gun in my truck.

It is time to change gun laws. It's time to place stricter limitations on what places can legally be "gun free". If it's a place that is likely to be targeted by bad dudes with guns... then you should be able to defend yourself and others with a firearm. That is the intent of the second amendment.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guess who knew all about Hillary's private email server?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clin ton-emails-fbi-228607
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H0gwash
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW I actually like these cartoons better. They say the same things but are a lot easier on the eyes and they are more 'seductive' that way, they invite a re-read.
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Mtnmason
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and it makes me nervous every time I have to turn around at the front door and leave my gun in my truck.

I walk right past most of those signs and laugh. I would recommend others do the same. If they do not have the penal code clearly listed at the bottom of the sign then it does not hold the weight of the law and thus should be considered a mere suggestion.

(Message edited by mtnmason on September 24, 2016)
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Court
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>I walk right past most of those signs and laugh. I would recommend others do the same. If they do not have the penal code clearly listed at the bottom of the sign then it does not hold the weight of the law and thus should be considered a mere suggestion.

Precisely.

I do the same thing for Stop signs, speed limit signs and traffic signals which do not clearly exhibit the penal code.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depends on the state. In Texas, a no gun sign is actually meaningless. Google texas code 30.06 and 30.07.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it makes me nervous every time I have to turn around at the front door and leave my gun in my truck.

I ignore all such signs. Banks, malls, churches, whatever.

I do what I want, when and where I want. If they have metal detectors around the doors, then maybe I just don't patronize the establishment.
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess the biggest reason I heed those signs is that I carry IWB (usually full size) and none of my holsters truly conceal. I have three Galco leather IWB and they all sit nice and high. Which is handy for drawing but not for concealing. Even my wife's 9mm compact flags through my shirts. That may also be due to me being a small framed guy.

There are places I don't think twice about carrying regardless of law, but shopping malls are typically full of koolaid drinking left wingers who would love to throw someone like me under the bus.
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Mtnmason
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do the same thing for Stop signs, speed limit signs and traffic signals which do not clearly exhibit the penal code.

Aaaaaahhhh!!! Ya got me, Court.

Main difference being: Disobeying traffic signs could end lives. Disobeying "no guns" signs could save lives.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Huh. That's one of the problems with concealed carry in a hostile environment... Not danger of being mugged, Social Danger.

Folk like Hillary and Barack have pushed the "guns bad, ugh" and "gun owners are bad" mantras deep into sheeple society. The fact that they are surrounded 24/7 by highly trained and massively armed bodyguards just highlights what swine they are. They deserve weapons & protection, You do not.

In New York, any Urban area and Suburban zone ( around the cities the bedroom communities are massive ) are seriously hostile to carry. Concealed here means really concealed. If someone glimpses a gun in a restaurant it gets police response. It's better 25 miles out into farmland.

So while the folk that have people carrying machine pistols ( yes, the SS carries machine guns ) and anti-aircraft rocket launchers, you better not. Peasant.

( yes, the SS carries Stingers... and it wouldn't surprise me much if they had a FGM-172 SRAW or a FGM-148 Javelin in the trunk.
The SRAW is a new design, tiny compared to the old Dragon, or even a Swedish Bill. ( named after the pole arm battle axe, not the clay doll ) It would be quite handy & effective if some lunatic tried to drive ( say ) a tractor trailer towards the President, smashing his way through a big outdoor venue. )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FGM-172_SRAW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FGM-148_Javelin

I'm quite impressed with the Javelin too. I've read the manual and received first hand reports from a buddy's Marine son. Point the sight at the oncoming tank, in a few seconds the missile tells you "I've got it" and you launch with a cold gas booster before the rocket motor kicks in. You still can't shoot from a small room, it still has some back blast. Very low profile for the launch team, the missile don't bee line at the target, giving away your position, they go up. Then kamikaze dive on the targets ( tanks, trucks, bunkers ) from above.

The best part is the guidance. Fire & forget. aka shoot & scoot. Built in IR camera system & AI. I'm told hits at 3 miles are possible, and at that range one team can target & shoot at multiple tanks before the first one blows up. This make the team a great example of a Glass Cannon.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GlassCa nnon
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Court
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ayyyyyyyy!!! Ya got me, Ward.

I'm not disagreeing with you.

But ...... events, rather than dearly held constitutional beliefs, are looking more and more like they may elicit and guide future discussion, debate and actions.

I predict we're going to see elevated levels of renewed interest in gun control.

I, personally, think it would behoove us to take a close look at "people control" .... but the gun is sexier and easier to point the finger at.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As far as "gun free zones" go, I cannot suggest that you ignore the wishes of idiots. It would be wrong to say I ignore them on the internet... Of course I'm an obedient thrall. ; )

I certainly didn't carry any weapons when I walked into the Hall of Justice and went through the security line every day on my job ( I have a different gig now and deal with the County Jail daily, but not through the scanner/xray machine line ) That is if you don't count hands & feet.

But I may not notice a window sticker on the way into a mall. And since the Social Pressure doesn't change to keep deeply concealed, I might not notice passing through deliberate target zones.

To say I ignore them? Not exactly, just don't pay attention. ( That's my story and I'm sticking to it )

Except I'm always aware of high risk/reward terrorism targets.

Places with lots of helpless people and very low probability of armed law enforcement. Think like the enemy is a basic rule of defense planning, and while my ingrained tradition is less Kamikaze and more Berzerker, the logical part.. "how much can I get away with" is valid if the terrorists are radical minecraft loons or Obedient Islamists.

Malls, Concerts, conventions, some nightclubs, and often sidewalk events, although the common threat there is vehicular homicide in the crowd.

See Paris, and multiple case in college town in America, often not listed as terrorism, even though the perp was a Jihadi who claimed it was for the Cause.

For that you can blame Obama & his deep ties to CAIR & the Muslim Brotherhood..... but the trend had started even before his election. There were at least 1, and I think 2, such "drive into the crowd" attacks during the Bush administration that just weren't widely reported as domestic terrorism.

Since Bush sure didn't have a compliant & willing to cover up press like Obama does, I hypothesize that the rationalization to ignore domestic terrorism came from the leftist editors/owners to protect Islam instead of a desire to protect the President from his policy failures. ( the dominant factor today )
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Mtnmason
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IIRC, that Javelin costs about 70K per round to feed. Wow, wish I was savvy enough to reload that.

Many years ago I worked in a machine shop that milled the GPD housing units for 200 lbs. JDAMs. We also did the same part utilized on 2000 lbs. bunker busters and some of the 500 lbs. JDAMs, albeit in much much smaller volume. It amused me to see so many of the guys in there that held a false sense of patriotism linked to their job. So often I wanted to explain to them that we were merely war-profiteering contractors for the Boeing corporation who was happy to sell their wares containing the components that we touched to any military that they were sure wouldn't drop said wares on any friendlies. Some of them probably realized that but didn't care. One guy had JDAM on his license tag. Fun times.

I predict we're going to see elevated levels of renewed interest in gun control.

Can't say I disagree with that at all. A lot of it will depend on when and how often some nut case decides to shoot up a gun free zone. I don't think they've caught the guy out in Washington yet. Based on surveillance footage, he doesn't strike me as a probable NRA member - too young, no Bass Pro hat. No matter, NRA will be blamed anyhow.

HOWEVER - do bear in mind that guns have been literally flying off shelves as fast as they can be restocked for the past 8 years. Suffice to say that those guns were in large part NOT being purchased by people that already had a safe full. I wish there was a way to track how many people have purchased their first gun since '08. However hard any new gun control measures are pushed, expect to see as much or more push-back than ever before.

Oh, and for the uninitiated, NRA is really an acronym for Not Really Aligned. I admire them for the work they've done since the creation of the ILA. Nonetheless, they've bent their allegiance on several issues (no fly = no buy and 'duty to inform' just to name a few). If you want unwavering support for the 2A, look at GOA. Smaller numbers but a more direct vision, IMHO.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of the first major acts of the NRA was to provide gun safety & marksmanship training to Black churches in areas with KKK problems.

Since the KKK was/is the action arm of the Democrat Party, it's understandable that the D's have a mad on for them. It's so annoying to be shot at when you're in the mood for a good old lynching and cross burning on a Saturday night. ( Sure BLM looks to be the new terrorist organization, with some deniability, for the Party, which seems backwards, but is just today's version of "rile them up & use chaos as an excuse to oppress" that has for centuries been a tool of bad guys. )

I do agree that the compromises the NRA has made sometimes upset me, but over all they tend to be fairly rational.

For a group that seems to me to be the most hard core, yet at the same time most polite... http://jpfo.org/

A strange mix of in your face "this is the real truth, Motherf*****" and calm sociological analysis.

Here's a good example.
http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/why-jews-hate-guns .htm

You do get the feeling that the core folk are absolutely not going to turn in their guns, no matter what.

As they point out, for thousands of years, while the vast majority of their tribe have been peaceful shopkeepers, they've always had ( and frequently oppressed ) a percentage of "not on my watch" hard core warriors. Usually living as peaceful shopkeepers.

See David. The Original Founder of the "Bring a gun to a knife fight" Trope

(Message edited by aesquire on September 24, 2016)
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