| Author | Message | ||
     Mackja |
While I see that racism does exist, I can't help but ask if some of it is self inflicted. I find it strange that while every ethnic group that has come to this country has managed to overcome much hatred and bigotry, still managed to weave themselves into the American fabric. Early in our countries history Catholics were treated as second class citizens, and could not worship freely until 1800, the Irish, Polish, and Italian's faced extreme racial prejudice because of their faith. German's and Japanese where treated horrible because of the war, Japanese where placed in internment camps. Lets not forget the hardship placed on the Chinese, Korean and Vietnamese also. With all the oppression they faced over time they became part of the culture. The African American culture wants to stand outside and in no way shape or form conform to or blend with the culture. This is in my opinion self defeating and becomes a self inflicted segregation. I do understand that the oppression of Black people in America has been more severe than what other groups faced, but would it not be beneficial to conform as others have while still maintaining certain cultural traditions. I don't know what the answer is but this situation cannot go on. we are living in crazy, scary times. Escalation of violence will do nothing to ease the situation, quite the contrary it will make things much worse. | ||
| Hootowl |
Strange, my screen still shows that puke green brown color in this thread. Or were you just being a dick? | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
if this thread got any whiter you would have to turn the brightness down on the computer screens. Run towards the light. Turn away from the darkness | ||
| Torquehd |
Gaesati, Jesus would forgive him if he was ready to repent. Otherwise he'd let local law deal with him. Mohamed would probably claim that this was a victory for allah as the cops slain were probably not muslims. (Message edited by torquehd on July 08, 2016) | ||
| Rick_a |
You know, Obama had an opportunity to make a statement that promoted unity and peace and allieve tensions but instead went on a race baiting rant. I guess I should have known. Fanning the flames of racism while attempting to pull the wool over our eyes concerning Islamic terrorism. Strange stuff. I never thought it could come to this. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
What did you expect.....he's black. | ||
| Court |
I'm afraid this is going to get worse before it gets better. I fear the President is fanning the flames. | ||
| Blake |
"What did you expect.....he's black." That's a disgusting bigoted statement. Allen West is black. Sheriff Clarke is black. Mia Love is black. Justice Thomas is black. Dr. Ben Carson is black. The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Was black. Frederick Douglas was black. Harriet Tubman was black, ... Bigotry is pure miserableness. Don't be a bigot. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I took that comment as being facetious. I hope I was right. | ||
| Aesquire |
Let me this up in simple honest terms. Cops must be held to the same standard as the rest of us. ( politicians are different. .... and a different argument. They should not be. ) There are some racist folk who can't see past the hate they are taught. There are some who can't separate the demographic from the individual. An example is "x percent convicted of crimes are y" or "Islamist terrorism is growing and widespread" Both true statements. Neither has anything to do with any person's character. Because crime rate is high in urban centers ( has always been so ) and internal migration patterns from the farm to the city & old south to northern industrial cities among blacks..... blacks are expected to be disproportionately represented in crime stats. True. But the numbers are higher than that.why? It has zip to do with genetics. My opinions are it's a combination of political patronage and worsening schools. Could be deliberate racism on an institutional scale by the D Party. Could be the deliberate destruction of western civilization by the Marxist theology. Could be the natural corruption of old institutions. .. see Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy. ...& the classic decay of civilization into corruption and class privileges. I'm betting all three. Opinions? Btw I think Barry is a jerk, blm are jerks and a few cops are too. | ||
| Willmrx |
kind of changes the narrative, if true. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/co nfirmed-philando-castile-was-an-armed-robbery-susp ect-false-media-narrative-now-driving-cop-killings / | ||
| Ducbsa |
By this law prof's logic, if the perp was shot by a police sniper in a well concealed hide, where the perp couldn't see him to target him, that would be beyond reacting to a reasonable threat. So, a cop has to present himself as a target to stop a mass murderer. The officer's widow and kids would be happy that he did what the law prof sitting in her gun-free zone office thought was righteous. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/437629/i-have -absolutely-no-problem-dallas-killer-robot | ||
| Court |
Facts matter . . . . We/ve been told that the fellow, shot by the NYPD cop, was "reaching in the window beating the crap out of him". Pesky videos are everywhere. http://nypost.com/2016/07/08/video-surfaces-of-nyp d-cops-road-rage-shooting/ Turns out . . the moment he walked to the car (a dumb idea in NYC) he was shot twice THROUGH the closed window. Suddenly self defense looks a lot like murder. | ||
| Gaesati |
Surely, Christ would say that we should love our enemies. Mohammed might say that jihad is the correct response. | ||
| Aesquire |
Assemblyman warns that this if not handled right, by his standards ie. conviction of cop, people will take matters into their own hands. Not quite calling for riots. I do agree with him that when the law is for some & not all the trust in our social contract is broken. That said I have read more biased reporting that's less trustworthy. But that story is overtly biased enough to have low credibility. I don't know what happened in this case or the Minnesota one. I won't simply accept as fact anything I read until investigation is much further along. Nor am I likely to blindly accept a simple dismissal of possibility of wrongdoing. Btw, if I cut a guy off, & it's happened, not proud, I make mistakes, & he follows me for several blocks, jumps out of his car and seems to want to attack me, I might be a touch trigger happy. The physical evidence of the idea the dead angry guy was shot through a car window should be easy to determine. I can see circumstances where it's rational to just shoot through the glass. If the attacker is armed or the car trapped. If the car can still be used to escape? Three tons of metal & plastic with hundreds of horsepower is a deadly weapon itself. Just drive off and drive over if you have to. Wait & see. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
I have a co-worker who was involved in a road rage shooting in Maryland resulting in the death of his friend. They got out of their car and an out-of-state cop blew his friend away and tried to shoot him too. The cop is black and they are white. Did anyone hear about this incident? I hear crickets. Despite being out-of-state and having previous incidents on his record from NJ the cop walked. Unjust circumstances happen to all races when stupidity, cops and guns are involved. | ||
| Gaesati |
Are minorities over represented in U.S. prisons? Are black people over represented in U.S. prisons? Are educational outcomes poorer for black people? Are health outcomes poorer for the black population? Is there a wage gap between the earnings of the black population? Is the infant mortality rate higher for black people? Are black people more likely to die violently? Are black people more likely to be perpetrators of gun crime? All this information can be found with a bit of googling. If the answers are unpleasant then the nation has a problem. In my own country indigenous Australians suffer more from all the above than the white population except in the case of gun death. However, there are very high rates for aboriginal deaths in custody. Royal commissions have substantiated this and have had a profound effect on law enforcement(not all good effects btw). In my country it is shameful that we have made so little progress in redressing these issues but they are seem as systemic issues which must be addressed. I believe the BLM reaction and the shootings by police are only symptomatic of far more pervasive and deep seated issues. In my own experience of the U.S. I never felt unsafe but found a very broad divide in the people with whom I talked. Generally, my wife and I stayed with well-paid professionals in advertising, human resources and entertainment industries as well as people we met on the road. They all shared their belief in America. But, I like to walk and talk to people I meet. In New York, San Francisco, Chicago, Philadelphia and Washington and numerous small towns I talked with people on buses and street corners. Black people, white people, hispanics and appallingly, amputee veterans who were begging on the streets. Everywhere amongst these groups people were generous, kind and good but disaffected and convinced that they had been locked out of any chance of success or escape. It was overwhelming how many people felt that they had been betrayed by the system. The division in attitude between the poor and the well off is really profound. | ||
| Sifo |
Careless Clinton has the answer. It's white peoples fault... http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/20 16/07/08/hillary-clinton-blame-whites-cops-shootin g-deaths-young-black-men/ | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Gaesati, Yes to your questions. Why? because black culture blows. Those that don't embrace the death cult of the soul, spirit and mind do well like those people Blake mentioned. | ||
| Rick_a |
According to the Democrats the U.S.'s problems are: White privilege Conservative values Stubborn Republicans The NRA There's a pervasive culture that encourages a less than positive lifestyle for youths these days. The only thing anyone is limited by is themselves. I don't buy that being a part of any ethnic group makes it any tougher to be successful. There's a rampant victim mentality influenced by leaders and special interest groups. They encourage people to lash out on each other and ignore the policies that are creating urban decay. It's deflection on a massive scale, and is disturbingly effective on the impressionable. | ||
| Alfau |
Slavery was abolished in the US by an amendment to the constitution. Owning guns can also be abolished with an amendment to the constitution. The two issues are related in that you can change all the laws you like but you can't change what is in their white heart with the passing of laws. Americas internal conflict is causing the rest of the world to see that freedom and equality in America is bullshit. | ||
| Glitch |
almost 100% true | ||
| Willmrx |
My gut feeling is this is not going to turn out well for this county. We are living in historic times. | ||
| Court |
Dalls PD currently under lock down and surrounded by S.W.A.T. | ||
| Sifo |
Americas internal conflict is causing the rest of the world to see that freedom and equality in America is bullshit. I would have to say that it's somewhere between ideal and bullshit. Compared to most countries in the world, it's pretty damned good. Few counties have both our diversity of culture, and better freedom/equality. Most of the worst inequalities in our country are actually kind of voluntary. Walk away from the government handouts and be responsible for yourself, and you will find you can achieve much better freedom and equality than what you see in the protests on the news. Most of these people have allowed themselves to become little more than sheep to be sheared during election season. In reality, those people are free to do better for themselves. That can be difficult when you are constantly told that you can't do better without government help though. Plenty of people have left the government plantation to provide for a better life for themselves. You don't see them on the nightly news though. | ||
| Court |
7:00pm EDT  | ||
| Xdigitalx |
"Americas internal conflict is causing the rest of the world to see that freedom and equality in America is bullshit." ^ I see someone has openly acknowledge the fact that the Obama administration really effed up our country. How about mandatory 2 years military service with longer basic weapon training for ALL citizens graduating high school and free tuition for most college's upon completion. That would be better than an amendment to the constitution removing the rights of every individual to defend themselves. Every kid may not get the same education growing but the 2 years in military they would be equals. After that... they should be mature enough to know better and succeed in life with more positive attitudes. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
The killer in Dallas served in the military. All that did was make him a better shot. The military of yesteryear is not the military of today. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
But I am not talking about Mr. psyco killer. He is a dead man now. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-gang-assessment -us-military-2011-10 gangs, transgenders, soft training.... not sure what you expect will be learned from enlisting in the military |
