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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My cousin Vinny reference?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Military style rifles are the propaganda of an authoritarian elite who want the peasants disarmed.

In the late 1800's the former slave owning party passed a law REQUIRING all guns to be military spec. This was done to make guns too expensive for the poor, but was really aimed at the hated Negros.

Just as in 1968 the same racist party pushed through a law to ban "Saturday night specials" inexpensive pistols..... to keep guns out of the hands of the poor, but especially the Negros.

You will notice that the highest crime and murder rates in the United States are urban areas with 3 things in common.
1 long term rule by one party. ( the party of the Klan )

2 tough anti civil rights laws forbidding weapons to the poor. ( & especially Negros )

3 a large deliberately concentrated population of Negros in ghettos used as combination vote fraud factories, a threat to the white Democrat voter, & easily skimmed vast government paid programs. ( inevitably designed to focus the blacks and poor in gulags filled with hate. The primary tool of evil men. )

If you didn't count those deliberate plantations of misery crime and hatred, U.S. violent crime rates are lower than Europe's.

Not my opinion. Historical, current, obvious fact.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blaming Your Rights for murders committed as an act of war are proof of the utter evil of the Regime.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

God sure does have a warped sense of humor.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.infowars.com/islamic-speaker-admits-kil ling-gays-is-a-belief-held-by-moderate-muslims/

Didn't God also promise not to wipe us all out again for being dirtbags after that flood business? Pretty much told us to get our act together, No more direct intervention.

So don't expect a miracle...
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My apologies. Dude didn't use an AR. I retract my awesomely placed movie reference.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This looks like about a clip a second.
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Airbozo
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Apparently some Christians applaud the killings in Orlando too....

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-pastor -praises-orlando-killings-video-sermon-20160614-sn ap-story.html

Religion will be the end of this world...

Guns aren't the problem, religion and it's zealots are.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Christ never told any of his followers to kill sinners, but to pray for them.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Love the media accounts of the AK-15.
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Malott442
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If your diety wants you to kill someone, you might want to consider firing your diety.


To think that an entity powerful enough to spark into motion what might be the most magical, beautiful, complex, simple, and amazing thing..... and then be as petty as to speak only through Human form, and those words be of intolerance.

That reality would be too sad for me to bear, if it was true.

We are part of a system of known stars that number higher than all of the grains of sand on every beach AND every seabed in the world. We process chemicals to power the processing of information. We float in a sphere on a plane of density because of electron orbital repulsion. We are over 99% NOTHING but empty space, every one of our bodies. But somehow we are able to hug, to love, to remember, and miss each other.


The purpose of life for us is to utilize the nanosecond of life we are afforded, and to find and spread love. To actually believe in intolerance and hatred of ANYTHING this world has churned out over the course of billions of years- Is ignorant, dangerous, pathetic, and depressing to everyone around those people.

One day, I hope we will live in a world where all are judged by one basic fundamental- whether you are an a$$hol3 or not. I swoon for my children, as they will grow up in a world so powerful with connected information- yet so petty and hateful.


I'm done, rant off. Sorry guys.

Matt
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Apparently some Christians applaud the killings in Orlando too....

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-pastor -praises-orlando-killings-video-sermon-20160614-sn ap-story.html

Religion will be the end of this world...

Guns aren't the problem, religion and it's zealots are.



Jeez, that guy's a real A-hole.


quote:

The purpose of life for us is to utilize the nanosecond of life we are afforded, and to find and spread love. To actually believe in intolerance and hatred of ANYTHING this world has churned out over the course of billions of years- Is ignorant, dangerous, pathetic, and depressing to everyone around those people.

One day, I hope we will live in a world where all are judged by one basic fundamental- whether you are an a$$hol3 or not. I swoon for my children, as they will grow up in a world so powerful with connected information- yet so petty and hateful.



As a young man I'd hold grudges over everything.

Nowadays I'm happy to be alive and do my thing surrounded by the ones I love.

A-hole or not, indeed.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 05:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/recogniz ing-the-enemy-ten-planets-yale-protects-its-studen ts-from-dead-white-poets/

It is hard to imagine a worse more dishonest man than our feckless leader.

If only his caution in not offending our enemies extended to our own police. But his urging on of racist lives matter in attacking police in America stands in stark contrast to his silence when Iranian citizens protested the mass murderers of their government and women were killed by snipers in the street for the express purpose of terrorizing the folk begging Obama to support them.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guns aren't the problem, religion and it's zealots are.

That is a completely ignorant statement.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/06/th e_american_left_is_beneath_contempt.html

No, he has a point. If there were no religions, no morality, no concept of right and wrong, then mass murders like this would be unremarkable. Some one wakes up on the wrong side of bed, kills a kindergarten class. Horny, rape the first girl you see. No big deal.

Of course someone with a sense of morality, a belief in right and wrong, would consider such a world Hell.

Sarcasm aside, It is true that SOME religions and SOME zealots are the cause of most of the worlds problems over the last century.

Marxist spinoff religions in their different forms has murdered more people than war in the last century. And still does, to this day.

Islam has had a deeply intolerant history of murdering those with a tiny doctrinal difference since the 7th century. And has been at war with everyone else ever since... to this day.

The worshipers of Baal I am told were not great neighbors either... But I haven't heard much trash talk from them lately.

And don't forget the Druids. Pretty sure in the days before Bronze was popular, they had some nasty habits. ( to be fair, Modern Druids tend to be nice folk, and at worse get naked in the moonlight with bodies not as sculpted as a Calvin Klein ad. )

I only really worry about the religions actively trying to kill me. I can only think of 3 still doing that.

As long as you understand which 3, and realize there are a LOT of religions, the odds on any given religion being evil aren't that bad. Those 3 though.... might want to keep an eye on them.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/06/wh en_does_the_learning_curve_kick_in.html
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When my father was asked if he was religious he would say no, I'm a Christian. Religious people killed Christ. I always loved that response!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no, I'm a Christian

Yep.
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Airbozo
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"That is a completely ignorant statement."

I disagree. I base my statement on many years of religious studies and association with several different religious groups.

Morality is not unique to any particular ideology and was around long before religion was invented. Who is the more "moral" person? One who follows the ten commandments because of the threat of burning in a fiery lake for eternity or one who does so based on respect and love of their fellow man or woman?

If you actually look at the various religious tomes, pretty much all of them call for killing sinners and non-believers.

If you look at history, Islam and Christianity have been in a death battle for centuries, one upping each others atrocities. At least most of the Christian's gave up on their "Old Testament" due to the intolerant nature of some of it's messages. Islam (among others) has not.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Christians didn't "give up" on the old testament. We do understand that some of the old testament doctrine (which in most cases is simply the written account of what the law was at the time) was obviated by the teachings of Christ.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Morality is not unique to any particular ideology and was around long before religion was invented.

And you know this how?
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Christians didn't "give up" on the old testament. We do understand that some of the old testament doctrine (which in most cases is simply the written account of what the law was at the time) was obviated by the teachings of Christ.

Since when did Jesus ever say any part of the Old Testament was negated?

In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or
the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

The World English Bible translates the passage as:

"Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the
prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill."

Might want to learn your book.







(Message edited by Cataract2 on June 16, 2016)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot does know his book, and he has it correct for Christianity.

The old testament law was the law of the old testament times. The new testament law is the old testament law as it applies after the coming of the savior, when that savior makes the ultimate sacrifice to pay off some fundamental debt and grant liberation and freedom from some sins.

It's like before and after you pay off your mortage. The law hasn't changed, but what you and others can do to your property has been radically transformed.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Religion will be the end of this world...

Guns aren't the problem, religion and it's zealots are.


Yes, if only all the world would bow your your specific theism. Perhaps we should start killing those who don't.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.dailywire.com/news/6612/west-hollywood- inundated-poster-rainbow-gadsen-hank-berrien

Good news on the Domestic front. Not all folk are fools.

However.

While you folk argue doctrinal subtleties of a religion that is NOT sworn to kill you all, the religion that IS will murder and rape.... more.

To be fair, it's not a Book that will do so, it is the followers of that book, led by evil men who use the teachings of a warlord to gain power.

And our Taqiyya President will import many more of that faith... as part of his war on secular government, while he denies shelter to the people of the faith you are arguing about.

As they die, are raped, sold into slavery, tortured, starved, and largely ignored.

At some point the genocide will be larger than anything the SS ever did.

Although it will take even more time to catch up to the Soviets... Who, btw, are partly responsible for the "radicalization" of Islam because of their decades of ruthless suppression of any faith but their own.

The entire southern arc of the former Soviet Socialist Republic is a shining example of how not to win friends and influence people. You know, the 'Stans.

And while I'm well aware of Medieval sins of the Church, the pre-medieval cult of an OCD pedophile is the one murdering us.

I doubt you have anything to fear from the Inquisition in 2016.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/15/orlando-terro rists-chilling-facebook-posts-from-inside-club-rev ealed.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Probably unrelated, England just had a Lady PM assassinated. This early in the story I refuse to speculate or comment on motives or sanity.

My prayers to the family and the Nation.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She was SHOT and stabbed !!!
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2016 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot does know his book, and he has it correct for Christianity.

The old testament law was the law of the old testament times. The new testament law is the old testament law as it applies after the coming of the savior, when that savior makes the ultimate sacrifice to pay off some fundamental debt and grant liberation and freedom from some sins.

It's like before and after you pay off your mortage. The law hasn't changed, but what you and others can do to your property has been radically transformed.


No, he really doesn't and apparently you don't either. Jesus never said that anything of the Old Testament was null and void. You can watch the videos I posted for a little education. It's pretty bad when non-believers know the Bible better than the believers do. The main person in the videos was studying to be a minister and he knows the Bible fairly well unlike you.

By the way your mortgage analogy is one of the dumbest and worst ones you could use.
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