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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2016 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow- 18" rear and 19" front wheels, inverted forks, decent cornering clearance, dual front disks, no clunky tail section. Best looking Sportster they've built in years:



http://www.cycleworld.com/2016-harley-davidson-roa dster-cruiser-motorcycle-review-first-look/?src=SO C&dom=fb
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2016 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow... the name Sportster is almost appropriate!
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Court
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2016 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Easy to tell where all the Buell folks went to work . . . . hahaha
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Slash6
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2016 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not that much different from the XR1200, which Harley dropped because of slow sales. Neither one holds enough fuel.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2016 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not that much different from the XR1200

Well, it's kind of in the same vein as the XR1200, but to my eye, it's a lot better looking. Those big-ass pipes and clunky tail section on the XR just seemed to kill the looks.

The XR probably was significantly ahead of this in the performance department.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2016 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a step in the right direction, but it's still a steel frame that wraps around the engine, and has dual rear shocks. I'm sure the weight is up pretty high for the power. At least it looks like it might be tall enough to lean into a corner.







Needs ape hangers.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2016 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like it might have been influenced by BMW's R9T.

Something for the cafe racer guys.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2016 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never thought I'd hear myself saying this but...

That's a Harley I might consider buying at some point in the future.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2016 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not bad.

It still ain't this

or this


But I digress. For a factory effort it's just fine. I still like the pre '04 XL chassis better.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doesn't suck! I've got a neighbor who rolls by regularly on his "dark" Sporty or whatever they call it, gotta say it's a pretty slick ride. These appeal so much more to me than most of the FL boats- IIRC they have some kind of Dyna "convertible" now, I could do something like that.

OTOH, I'd love to have another Shovel, properly built- could do that for less $$$, I'd guess. Still keep a roadside assistance policy on it though... ; )
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why didn't Harley-Davidson use the XB platform to build this bike?
Don't they still own all the rights to the Buell XB line?
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ummm- can haz a Photochop of an XB frame and a Sportster?!?

Teeps, hate to say it, but that's a very high probability of a HD turd in a punchbowl. Now, if there were some way to resurrect the old Tuber frames in service of the Sportster line, THAT would be sweet!
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They could have used the XB engine.
An XB engine in a tuber style frame could work.

However, I never liked the under slung rear shock and especially the huge chicken wing air intake on the tubers.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The top end and valvetrain set up on the '04 up 1200's are directly from the Buell XB line.

Technically my tuber has XL heads. They already have the intake mounts drilled vs using the XB heads.

Your dreams are just a frame kit away.

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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Sportster bottom end has never appealed to me aesthetically, either.
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Ffbuell1
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still in my opinion no where close to an XR 1200 the engine appears to be standard Sportster ,all they did (and for HD I guess it is a lot) was put on a decent front end and dual disc's It almost seems as if they do want to make some thing a little bit performance and handling oriented ,but are afraid to do it fully!
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HD do not want their bikes looking like a Buell. They want them to reflect the classic HD style.
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All of you need to remember the number 1 rule at Harley... Give the custom a reason to buy upgrades! How else will they sell all the Screamin Eagle stuff if they make the host machine worth having in the first place. Until you get up into things like the CVO models that already have most upgrades, or the Screamin Eagle models that have all the SE stuff on them, you have to leave room for all the pieces parts of add ons and extras.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hopefully Indian will make a Scout along these lines soon. Toss in the new Triumph Scrambler and we've got ourselves a retro shoot out!
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Josequinones
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

did someone say Indian?:

indian-motorcycles-750cc-race-engine-approved-for- ama-twins-pro-flat-track-racing

and HD has another platform for this too:

get-quick-glimpse-new-harley-latest-captain-americ a-civil-war-trailer
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jose! Good to see you posting! Where the hell have you been?
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Zhen13
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2016 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe Harley finally went with inverted forks on the sportster because they got a good deal on inverted tubes at the EBR garage sale.
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Josequinones
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2016 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lurking, riding my zero and keeping the Buells running.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2016 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Every time I visit a Harley dealer, all of their bike have those forward controls which I absolutely hate!
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2016 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HD - bold new colors!!!!
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2016 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is still mid controls which I find quite awkward. Are the passenger pegs still attached to the swingarm?

They can't put a 2:1 on it or even 2:1:2 because "bikers" will immediately declare it a "Jap bike."
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2016 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm... There are sure a lot of Sportster haters here.
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Henshao
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2016 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As long as you're willing to overlook the superior comfort, performance, handling and fuel economy of a Buell, a sportster is a great choice.

(There are indeed a lot of sportster haters here. Why do you think we bought Buells? I'd love to see a list of things a sportster is better at than a Buell)
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2016 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Hmm... There are sure a lot of Sportster haters here.




We don't serve their kind here!


quote:

I'd love to see a list of things a sportster is better at than a Buell)




Better at holding down stacks of papers
More dealer support
More efficient at converting gasoline into noise without the side effect of horsepower
Factory wheelie control



Ok obviously that was mostly in jest. The dealer support is nice, if you break a belt in the middle of nowhere, you are significantly more likely to have a Harley dealer with a belt in stock within a hundred miles than a Buell dealer.
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Henshao
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2016 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, I agree, the sporty is better at being a Harley, and all that that implies. One of the bonuses is that there is a plethora of support for repairing Yesterday's Technology, Today.

(It seems like everyone has a hill they're willing to die on, and a big single carb on motorcycles is one of mine...)
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