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Freakyfast
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When in doubt - resort to name calling.
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Freakyfast
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The poison gas Bill Clinton warned about?

The poison gas Hillary warned about?

The thousands of tons of poison gas Hans Blix warned about?

The tons of yellow cake Uranium shipped from Iraq to Canada to be processed by the alliance?

The poison gas shipped to Syria before the liberation?

Ignorant of all the above?


You mean all of those rusty and inoperable "weapons of mass destruction" they found abandoned in the desert. Your tune is the '70s.
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Reindog
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By definition, you are a troll and by your actions of identity misrepresentation, you have proven yourself a liar.

You are mildly entertaining at best but you are mostly an uneducated, insufferable bore who has demonstrated an inability to debate.

So have at it, friend.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking of all the ethnic Kurds that died horrible deaths as a result of Saddam's chemical weapons as the primary evidence of Saddam's chemical weapons.

And I watched Bush announce the war. It couldn't be clearer that it was the result of failing to cooperate with inspectors, which would allow us to insure there were no WMD's. Which was the agreement Saddam made to stay in power after loosing the war he started with Kuwait.

But perhaps I am less easily confused by the media manipulations than others are.

Like I have alluded. In hindsight, I think the Iraq war may have been a mistake. But it was a bipartisan one that was made with massive support from US citizens, not a personal conspiracy from Bush and Rove.

In fact, I'll go so far as to say it had massive world support, expecially since it was American hands getting dirty and American blood being spilled, while the Europeans can remain remote, enlightened, and passive aggressive about the whole thing while reaping its predicted benefits of security against terrorism.

There are lessons to be learned here, but we won't learn them with people like Fred in the room blindly shouting "hooray for my side" like some high school sophomore who just discovered politics.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, you're right. Boringslow seems to be a dishonest one.
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Freakyfast
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Identity misrepresentation"
"mildly entertaining"
"uneducated, insufferable bore"

I may be all of that, but you're a "pisser" Mad Dog.
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Freakyfast
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

while reaping its predicted benefits of security against terrorism.


Like Paris and Brussels?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He failed to prevent two terrorists attacks that occurred 7 years after his term ended. You're right. It's GW's fault. Only a fool would fail to make that connection.
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Freakyfast
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only a fool would fail to make that connection.

You were right the first time.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blaming Bush is like blaming the gun.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep, pretty much agree.

I had real issues with the way Bush handled the peace after he liberated fifty million people from tyranny.

In Afghanistan, where Obama lost more of our troops than the 7 years before..... the mistake was being overly polite to Pakistan, and trying to prop up a central government where you have tribes that never accept that.

When Barry tried to copy Bush's success in Iraq with a surge propaganda campaign. ... without allowing a change in ROE to go after the Taliban, he was trying a strategy that worked in urban Iraq with a tradition of central government. Fail in rural tribal lands with none.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In Iraq the problem was allowing a theocratic constitution and failing to allow for sectarian issues. Part of that you can blame on State dept. which is prejudiced for Sunnis and dismiss Shia. Poor choice of regent and too much support of a corrupt Iraqi govt.

Then after AQ was defeated in Iraq, Barry Taqiyya announced his abandonment of Iraqi, then gave weapons to AQ in Syria. ISIS is his child.

Why? Why did Barry decide it was a great idea to depose Assad? What idiot would attack a Soviet client state with modern anti air defenses? Why after insisting we are not the world police did he start a war in Syria?

Thousands dead, slavery, mass rape, genocide are Barack Obama's legacy.

That and a billion dollar website that doesn't work.

Oh and raising the cost of healthcare.... energy.....food.....more unemployed year after year.... pen & phone instead of law.
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Freakyfast
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thousands dead, slavery, mass rape, genocide are Barack Obama's legacy.

Presented by a person without one.
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Torquehd
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2016 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There should be a trolling rule - if you post more than three off-topic posts site-wide, you're banned. If you add nothing to the conversation except name calling, you're banned. If you were previously banned then changed your username and created a new account, you're banned.

Back on topic.

How do you know that barack osama will absolutely interfere with the clinton email investigation? Because he said he wouldn't.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 05:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lol.

You've got the perfectly legitimate fellow down cold.

( according to a multiple layer pdf file anyway )

I still think Barry will wait until after all primaries are done before screwing Hillary, IF he allows her to be indicted.

That completely bypasses the voter's will. Biden/Cuomo. For your own good, of course.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

theory of conspiracy
Clinton, gets the nomination, and the Presidency
then Obama rushes the FBI to indite her, and "investigates" further
would that mean Obama would be in office as long as the trial would be?
Is there a law or something less than martial law that could keep him in power?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Again Fred, you are trying to find facts to fit your preconceived conclusion. You will always be able to find some outlier or bend some fact to do that, so don't waste your time trying. Just stick with your preconceived conclusion, and acknowledge that its a matter of dogma and faith to you.

But when you try and argue from that standpoint with others who are open to letting facts guide them, you just come off equal parts ignorant and tedious. Like a flat earther arguing with a pilot about how to fly from LA to Hong Kong.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch, not a bad idea. I mean it's horrible, but plausible for Barry.

No love lost between those folk. Barry might think it a grand thing to demolish the Clinton foundation to show he's a good guy. Otoh that might mess up his future bribe taking career and you know he's going to be sucking massive cash out of his forever campaign organization.

When you have to ask "how evil are these folk" the answer has so far been...... Satan is jealous.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"How do you know that barack osama will absolutely interfere with the clinton email investigation? Because he said he wouldn't."

Because he already has, in the very same interview in which he said that he wouldn't.

By going on national television and declaring that he doesn't believe she broke any laws, he is laying the foundation for FBI and DOJ to not prosecute, and at the very least, signaling quite loudly to those organizations from his bully pulpit that he expects her to get off. And if that fails, he'll pardon her, referring back to the time that he said he doesn't believe she did anything wrong, implying that this was all just politics as usual and that Hillary is a victim of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course she's a victim of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Bastards want insane things like the law applying to everyone equally. What kind of twisted thinking is that?

Now Obama's AG has properly told American law Enforcement to use the color of a person's skin to determine their prosecution, not their actions. It's the Democrat Party tradition dating from long before the Civil War.

In Hillary's case, it's a simple thing. The Ruling Class in Obama's cherished Authoritarian Regimes is not under the laws written for lowly peasants.

Obama greatly admires China's rulers absolute power, and we've seen the love with Castro... Not to mention Barry's doomed homoerotic relationship with Putin. An abusive relationship true, but you know how hard it is to get the abused to realize that.

It all gets down to who Barry wants to succeed him. And how willing he is to take on the Clinton machine.

I don't think Barry can get away with not holding an election... unless there's the Glenn Beck predicted planetary financial collapse, with mass terrorist attacks, and threat of World war with Russia & China....

which is totally possible. Between George Soros and Barry's genius at foreign affairs.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case, but in any case. Full stop. Period. Guaranteed. Full stop. No one gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department, because nobody is above the law," Obama reiterated.

Asked if that would remain the case if she receives the Democratic presidential nomination, Obama was clear: "How many times do I have to say it, Chris? Guaranteed."

Obama said that Clinton had done an "excellent" job as secretary of state.


yeah....You're right. That makes it official. Barack Obama has indeed used his power to make sure she's treated differently. ( See "The Princess Bride" wine scene. )

(Message edited by aesquire on April 12, 2016)
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't tell whether you're being facetious.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazil-vp-accidentally- releases-post-impeach-speech-205539898.html

not sure where to put this one. I assume this is unrelated to the "Panama papers" scandal?
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IRS chief: Agency encourages illegal immigrant theft of SSNs to file tax returns

WHAT???!!!!

quote:

The IRS is struggling to ensure that illegal immigrants are able to illegally use Social Security numbers for legitimate purposes, the agency's head told senators on Tuesday, without allowing the numbers to be used for "bad" reasons.


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Torquehd
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

please tell me the Washington Examiner is somehow tied to "the onion"

I think the oldest argument on this subject is still the most relevant - "what part of ILLEGAL don't you understand?"

I wasn't speeding, I was undocumenting my acceleration. I didn't commit tax fraud, I had undocumented earnings. I didn't kill him, he died of undocumented causes. I wasn't AWOL, I was in an undocumented location. Which means the IRS endorses my theft of someone else's identity.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In what world is it OK to encourage someone who is already here illegally, to commit a federal offense of identity theft, and at the same time claim that these people are not a problem? Doesn't that disqualify them from the "if they haven't committed any other crimes" mantra of offering them amnesty? Never mind that this is a high level federal employee who is suggesting that they commit these crimes. It really is difficult to fathom the dysfunction of our government these days! It really is getting to be time to push the reset button!
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot.

My post @10:41 was sarcasm.
The 10:51 post was simply agreement. With Obama, you can safely assume he's lying when he says he is not or will not break the law. Princess Bride rules.

You can also assume he's telling the truth, partially, when he promises a really bad idea.

Tell the enemy when they can expect to take over as we abandon allies? Rock hard truth.

Promise to change American reputation? Truth. ( ruin is change )

Promises that make sense can be assumed lies.
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Torquehd
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With Obama, you can safely assume he's lying

That statement is complete as is.

If he says it, I mistrust it.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You mean, like this?

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Ceejay
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

holy sh-t! I laughed at the cartoon, but I'm still angry about it.

Not that the cartoon was written/drawn, but that it is all true and scary.
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