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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do they scan license plates to find SS offenders? Or does one have to do something wrong and get caught in order to get in trouble for the SS "license suspension" bit?

I...uh...I know a guy who has to drive through Georgia tomorrow for a family emergency in FL, and would prefer not to get in trouble. Cruise control set at the speed limit should do just fine...unless they scan plates.

Anyone know?
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Thumper74
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I... have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm eager to find out!
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wanted to post pictures of Jacky Gleason in "Smokey And The Bandit". But, he was out of Texas going to Georgia.
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It doesn't help the OP, but this should help the other inquisitive posters understand.

I was informed of it on an interview trip to Georgia a handful of years back but fortunately never experienced it's inner workings firsthand,
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So you'll be driving straight down I-95, and you have an outstanding warrant?

Take a plane.

LPR's are more and more common, and recent court rulings in Georgia have deemed it completely lawful to use them in effecting a traffic stop.

You could get lucky, or you could be arrested.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or... borrow somebody else's car.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My dad had a similar thing happen to him back in the 60's. I don't recall which state it was but I know he did not go back through that state for over 40 years! As a kid I recall hearing him talk to my uncles about it.

In his case the fine was probably $30 and he did not drive several hundred miles for court date a couple of weeks later, back to that county's court to pay the fine in person as it had to be done back then.

They probably lost more revenue by having him go around their state for forty years, than had he passed through buying fuel, motel rooms, food and such.

If they have a second car tell them to take that one. Has their registration plate been renewed and the numbers changed since their last pass through?
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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See about renting a Buick/Olds bluehair-mobile. Or, check with several airlines, one may have a policy to allow airfare with a non-raped-without-KY-jelly-price...

Good luck, let us know how things work out for you.
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pwnzor is right
They use the LPR for everything
regulating the diamond lane to outstanding warrants, to traffic violations
There is more fear of LPR than a speed trap
The cops just sit by the road with their LPR that can read as much as 80K plates an hour
if they "catch" you, they send the traffic cops to pull you over while the LPR cop, just sits there reading plates
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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dang Glitch...
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Malott442
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rent a car!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 rent a car.

Those plate recognition systems are like shooting fish in a barrel.
Route 95 is a delicious choke point.

I do my best to avoid route 95 no matter what state I happen to be in. It's prime hunting ground and the worst of the worst drivers seem to gravitate to it.
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Gowindward
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like your "I know a guy" should just pay the fine $250 ??? and move on with life.

Glad to hear about this since I have a trip to Georgia scheduled this summer....Dang 75mph on a two lane can sure be just cruising along on a motorbike...
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or... borrow somebody else's car.
Make sure they are clean.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rental car is financially out of the question - no telling how long the trip could be. Loved one who's about to pass...but not sure when. Close. Could be a day..could be a month. Too much "stuff" needed to go both down, and back (mainly back), to plane it.

Paying the fine would require the original citation number. Given the time passed since issue...there's no telling what that would be. And given the "gotta go NOW" situation...no time to research and/or plan.

Between cash in hand, and google in case a conversation with a LEO occurs and the violation number becomes available for immediate online payment via iPhone...it's a calculated risk in the name of being with a parent on his deathbed.

Anybody wanna meet in SC, swap cars, drive to FL, and swap back tomorrow?
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why didnt you just fix your suspended license when it first happened instead of waiting this long and wondering what might happen to you if caught?

And what would happen if caught, would you be jailed? If so, what would happen to the friend's car who you were driving, impounded?

I'd say those last two would be real important to think about for anyone considering loaning you a car
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not gonna ask to borrow a car.

The state handles it like shit. Issue the citation. Paid the citation, no question (got caught speeding, no sense arguing the fact).

A MONTH LATER, another department sends notice of an "administrative fee" that must be paid or else.

Extortion, plain and simple. All for admitting the error of speeding in the first place and simply paying the fine.

No plans to ever drive to that state again (nearly 700 miles from home), but this circumstance forces it.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New York has a tax on moving violations. It's very understated when they assess the fine, and you pay the local court....... it's a separate payment to the State.

As unavoidable as......... consequences. ( as in the mantra of the juvenile system, "actions have consequences" )

New York is relentless on taxes. You can rob a bank and eventually the statute of limitations kicks in. None with taxes.

I can't even "hint" a not legal remedy like switching plates with a neighbor, since scanning systems check for registration stickers matching plates. At least the ones local in western New York do. Automatic red flag. ( a customer does the algorithms for these systems )

Good luck. Wish I had a genius idea.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Megabus?

There have to be better options. Keep in mind that most LEO's are people too, most of them good people.

Maybe you're overthinking it, maybe I'm naïve, maybe... you'll make it regardless.

Maybe a random blast of mud obscures a barcode, or something.

Good luck Joe, and Godspeed to your travels.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quick: Rent a car to get there, turn it in, and do the communal taxi app/thingy/service, oh yeah, Uber? There are surely more options than you may know. As much as I hate Greyhound, it's an option.

Getting there #1, getting around when you get there, #2, efficiently #3, back home, #4.

Wish I could help ya.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In Georgia, if caught, you will be arrested.

GADOT is on a maximum enforcement push until February 1.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

" Keep in mind that most LEO's are people too, most of them good people. "

This is certainly true.
But dont expect these good people to let you off when youre clearly, knowingly breaking the law.

Good luck today, hopefully you'll be posting on here tonight, a sign that you weren't arrested in GA
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Ocbueller
Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe,
Possibly the Car Train out of Lorton,VA. to Sanford,FL.?
SteveH
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got down, wasn't stopped nor arrested. Tried to stay "fenced" between other vehicles the whole time. Saw a single LEO in GA. Apparently late Sunday evenings aren't a heavy patrol shift.

120 mile sphincter-pucker.

May very well be here past 2/1. All depends on how things progress. Actually..."how" is pretty much a given, more a matter of "when" at this point.

Might train back. Or could very well take mom back with me to MD - she can drive the GA leg : )
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad the trip went well, Joe.
Worry about the return later...
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have time on the return, simply go around. Yes it adds a lot of time and miles, but you might want the break.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Greg said. Glad to hear you made it Joe, hope things work out as well as they can for you and your folks.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, everyone. Just a matter of time now. Say a prayer to your deity of choice for Robert Goetz, Cdr. USN (Ret).

Not even thinking about the return trip at the moment - I'm here for the duration.
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Consider it done Joe. My best to you and your family in this difficult time.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do the local police uses the scanners. If not you could simply stay off the state patrolled highway through GA on the way back. It would be faster than going around GA.
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