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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2015 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can relate to wanting a Monster until the S1 debuted.

Eriks current bikes are beyond my more pedestrian interests but I'd sure like to see EBR survive...
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Malott442
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2015 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When are the Thunderbirds going to tour in Florida? Tell Erik he can ride any one of my family's bikes he likes when he is here.

Mi casa, su casa. It's the least I can do for the 50k plus miles of wheelies, stoppies, jumps, smiles, and most importantly- life. 10 of my 35 bikes have been Buells, and they all had something many didn't- SOUL!
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Mnrider
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2015 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Court.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to add a little of what I've seen in my short time on this Buell bandwagon.

A big part of my conversion to Buell came from other riders who were almost rabid about their brand, first on the internet and gradually in person. then I met Erik.
I asked him for so many autographs in 2008 that later, at the concert by the lake he looked at me and said"you're Zack, right?".
I almost shit.
Two years later when I asked him to sign my latest Buell, he asked if it was in Colorado. again I almost shit.

I watched him come out of the factory in 2010 after the shutdown and he saw a whole parking lot SOLID with Buells and a tear rolled down his face.

Erik has more heart than anyone I have ever been lucky to meet.
And I have a whole lot more friends thru that association in all of you I've met.

BTW, Thanks Blake.

Z
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Bud
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks Court
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Fmaxwell
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 06:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The company that just bought EBR's assets is the same company that auctioned off Buell's assets after the HD shutdown:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2010/01/article/buel l-liquidation-sale-begins-jan-28th/

http://www.liquidap.com/portfolio/buell-motorcycle-factory-liquidation/

I've got two Buells and wanted to buy an EBR, but I just can't see this ending well.


(Message edited by fmaxwell on December 14, 2015)
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just heard the decision has been postponed and will be heard again January 14, 2016.
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The court did NOT approve the sale to Liquid Assets. Bruce posted that this is a good thing.

I believe this gives him another shot at acquiring it.
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Noone1569
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

; )
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for sayin', Court.

Cue the popcorn emoticon...
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Macbuell
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the liquidator assholes.
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Stevel
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I visited the Liquidation site and reviewed their item list in detail of what was to be auctioned off on 28 January. I assumed this inventory equated to their 1.6 mil bid. Well it did not. This auction would not return $1 mil max, if that. I will try to attach the XL spreadsheet, but I may not be able to. There are about 360 lines in the spread sheet and 1016 items. There were no EBR bikes or parts of EBR bikes. Others should check this out as well to keep me honest. So, I don't get it. Where is the rest of the stuff that must be there?
application/vnd.ms-excelEBR Auction Inventory
Copy of LIQUIDATION_341_INVENTORY.xls (704.5 k)
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Noone1569
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last time Liquid Asset Partners liquidated a manufacturer, they sold the motorcycles at the NPA (national powersports auction) which is very typical.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stevel- I saw a couple of Buell-related items, an XB engine stand and a "fuel caddy/XB frame", but nothing that's obviously EBR.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You guys need to check the dates on that auction crap, the links are from 2010, the spread sheet was originally from 2009. This is the OLD Buell that HD sold, not the new EBR.

If it was implied that these were from last time, I apologize, to me it seemed you were talking about the present.

The news of the delay in court until after the holidays kind of confirms this.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My thought has been that the court will go with a lesser bid if it means jobs and future tax revenue for the state. Bruce B. appears to be the best for the state option. Of course I am just thinking out loud. Doesn't mean I'm right.
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Court
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>if it means jobs and future tax revenue for the state.

Wait . . . how would you respond if you were a creditor and the court rolled the high bidder in favor of someone selling a "pie in the sky" promise of jobs and revenue.

Short some sort of a bond of binding agreement . . .that ships not setting sail.

There have already been discussions, I believe by Bruce, about if EBR would stay in WI or come to New Jersey.

Bruce is a businessman and knows the immutable law of running a business. . . .



quote:

"the control you have over your business is the inverse of the square of the number of miles between you and the business. . . . for overseas . . it's the cube root" -

Court


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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just don't see this ending well or should I say the way Badweb members would like to see.

Hope I'm wrong.
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Davegess
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't see that EBR is worth more sold in piece thanks a "going concern" even if the the going is tough. The law they are operating under does give a "going concern" bid precedence over chopping it into pieces. BUT the precedence is limited.

I'm not hopeful about EBR.

I am certain that we have not seen the last ErikBuell designed motorcycles.
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Court
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I'm not hopeful about EBR.

I am certain that we have not seen the last ErikBuell designed motorcycles.




That is an accurate statement . . . . I doubt we'll see any future reincarnation of EBR . . . I am CERTAIN we will see Erik Buell's handiwork.
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not hopeful about EBR.



I am certain that we have not seen the last Erik Buell designed motorcycles.

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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Wait . . . how would you respond if you were a creditor and the court rolled the high bidder in favor of someone selling a "pie in the sky" promise of jobs and revenue.


Obama has already set the precedent with GM, although I think we all can agree EBR ain't no GM.
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Court
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nor are the Courts extended the latitude to act as stupid as a minor league community organizer who stumbled and fell into a leadership role.
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Gearheadgrrrl
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is under Wisconsin law. I read the statute last night hoping to find some language that would allow the judge to consider effects on the community, but found little. Basicly the creditors interests are to be considered first. However, if say the local or state government came in with some $$$ to add to Bruce's bid, that would improve the outcome for investors and perhaps sway the judge...
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No union. You're right Court. There I was thinking with emotions. Hard not to do for me when it comes to Buell.
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Fmaxwell
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court wrote: "Nor are the Courts extended the latitude to act as stupid as a minor league community organizer who stumbled and fell into a leadership role."

Court, I expected better from you than low-information-voter baseless sniping.
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Snacktoast
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court wrote: "Nor are the Courts extended the latitude to act as stupid as a minor league community organizer who stumbled and fell into a leadership role."

Court, I expected better from you than low-information-voter baseless sniping.


Court's comment seemed rather apropos to me.
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Fmaxwell
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Snacktoast wrote: "Court's comment seemed rather apropos to me."

Right, because Obama must have "stumbled and [fallen] into a leadership role." Let's ignore that he got a Harvard law degree, was elected to be the president of the Harvard Law Review, worked as a civil rights attorney, taught constitutional law at University of Chicago Law School for 8 years, served three terms in the Illinois Senate, got elected to be a U.S. Senator from Illinois, and was elected President of the U.S. -- twice.
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please; can we keep politics out of this?
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