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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2015 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still not a Trump fan, but I did like this cartoon. Seems to be accurate enough.



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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2015 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=860_1449151298
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Reindog
Posted on Monday, December 07, 2015 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, December 07, 2015 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to say that I never thought he would get this much momentum, or be around for this long.

At this point, I'm ready to vote in ANYTHING other than a demonrat.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, December 07, 2015 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats the problem with our country - people only care about the letter next to someones name.

People trash the other side because of what letter they have, and blindly follow their own side because of what letter they have.

R or D, nothing will change
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, December 07, 2015 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, I trash the Democrats for what they do. Most Republicans lately are just slightly better.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, December 07, 2015 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL
No, the R party lost my confidence the last few years.
They are just dems with an R beside their name, they control the Congress yet nothing changes
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, December 07, 2015 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So who do you like?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, December 07, 2015 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

douche.... turd sandwich... trump... douche... turd sandwich... trump... douche... turd sandwich... trump...


Hmmmm....
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, December 07, 2015 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The president wields the pen (and a phone, I'm told). Congress can pass all the bills it wants. They won't become law. Nothing will change until one party has 2/3 of each house or a supermajority and the presidency. Or the balls to say, here's the budget, sign it or don't. Government shutdown is up to you mr president. I'm hoping Ryan has some balls. The last guy sure as hell didn't.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, December 07, 2015 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep. No difference between r and d.

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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo - none of them.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 06:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

None of them... so... your candidate "Nunna D'above" must have a really strong platform...

What are his/her views on immigration and gun control?
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So who do dislike the most? Are they really all completely equal in your eyes?
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dislike the most?
Hilary. I see NOTHING good in her. NOTHING she says fits my views. AT ALL.
The others will say things here and there that I like
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree. Even Bernie is a better choice.

Utah Raptors are a better choice.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was watching a D debate recently (two or three weeks ago ona Saturday?), caught about an hour of it, maybe a little less.
Sanders started talking about using military money more efficiently, and I was like, "yes, I agree..."
And then five minutes later he's talking about letting in tens of thousands of Syrian refugees... damn.
But there was that one thing I agreed with him on.
H...not. one. thing.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2015 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bernie is certainly far more honest that Hillary. Unusual for a socialist. Hillary is cut from typical socialist cloth.

I'm not sure how you can say that someone like Trump or Carson are similar in any way.

Republicans as a party have failed miserably lately. I do agree with that. The MSM has been very complicit in making that happen, but most of the blame does fall on the party.
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Snacktoast
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bernie is certainly far more honest that Hillary.

Agreed. Listening to him, while I don't agree with his policies, I don't feel like he would lie to my face and sleep well at night doing it like you know her high*cough*ness would.

(Message edited by snacktoast on December 09, 2015)
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - 05:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

F blaming the MEDIA for their failures (which I see that youre not putting the blame only there), and Im so sick of hearing Rs say that this is all because of mainstream media.
Yeah, F that.
Republicans are losing people because of republicans.

Sifo - well they are both republicans. Both idiots. THere are two things.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - 05:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whoops, THEY are
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having the "4th branch" of government controlled by a 70%+ majority of idealistic liberals that are also gifted communicators is certainly a huge factor.

But I agree the Republicans have done a lot of really stupid things.

We need to get the "I feel the need to control other people" out of both parties for the good of the country.

I haven't quite put my finger on why, but I think they are even more poisonous in the Republican party. Part of that has to be because the media hates them and their ideas so much, and is very good at making them look as stupid as they are.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"But I agree the Republicans have done a lot of really stupid things. "

And you hear about ALL of them. The Dems, not so much. It's simply not reported.

"The media is EVERYTHING"

~Andrew Breitbart
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Ulyranger
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Progressivism is the disease that has infected most politicians, regardless of the preceding letter in front of their name.....

The power to control others is infectious.

Trump fits the mold quite well.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The media really hammers these guys with their sound bite magic. From what I am seeing if media sound bites were inclusive of the first ten words about a subject upon which they speak, the media's shit-storms they like to brew would be quelled.

I am used to the sound bite program. My spouse does this to me sometimes. She hears the first two words of a ten word sentence and her hearing shuts down. Therefore I am subject to often be misunderstood. The Media tosses in a little more control of what we hear by picking which two words for us to misunderstand.

Life is good.

With Hillary it does not matter which two of ten words they choose to use, they are either not true, or can be smeared and covered up later.

I like that Trump is not following the PC police, even in the R party. To me that is good to see. For many many years there has been no back bone in any political candidate because of the number of strings that get attached to sensitive issues leaders. He is the first in a long time to stand up to it. He seems like he could be the first 'strong' leader to step up for our country in a long while.

In light of what Trump stated the other day about stopping free travel for Muslims(that got a two word sound bite) that stirred up a shit storm, the French have now found evidence that backs his plan. Mosques are being found to store weapons.

I think Trump had information earlier on the French situation and used the shit storm intelligently to strengthen his run. A "see what I did there" moment.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think he stated it wrong, he should have said "severely restrict" instead of "ban". Severe restriction could be 10 people per year, based on intensive background scrutiny. And that scrutiny can't be what the current admin considers adequate.

He has some good ideas, he just doesn't seem to have the knack for delivering his messages in a presidential manner. We already have a clown in the Office who can't speak without a prompter but at least that clown has the media working to shore him up.

Trump doesn't have that media backup and whenever he blares stuff out like that he pushes more center voters away to the Dems. I wish he'd knock it off and start methodically chipping away at Hillary, with accuracy not wild accusations and charges, then he might start to improve on his unfavorable ratings.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the media had spent half the time they spent on "no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq" on any one of the following...

1) fast and furious
2) IRS targeting of groups based on idealogy
3) Benghazi
4) State department data on non state department controlled servers
5) Withholding of climate research raw data

We would be in a much better world as a result...

I don't blame them for being attack dogs. That's fine, and necessary to keep a government in check.

I do blame them for being lap dogs though.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think he stated it wrong, he should have said "severely restrict" instead of "ban".
Trump didn't say "ban" - please correct me if I'm wrong.

He has some good ideas, he just doesn't seem to have the knack for delivering his messages in a presidential manner.
Interpretation: He's not a smooth-talking, PC-infested, say one thing/do something completely different, corrupt career politician. How absolutely refreshing.

Trump doesn't have that media backup and whenever he blares stuff out like that he pushes more center voters away to the Dems.
Actually, just the opposite is happening.

...then he might start to improve on his unfavorable ratings.
His favorability ratings are already consistently exceptional, and went even higher after his statement regarding immigration on the 7th.

Where do you get your news? : )
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hybrid, I notice you never seem to say anything bad about the Dems. Why is that? You will about the Repubs, but not the Dems. Then you claim there is no difference, but it's not shown in your one sided disdain for politicians.

At least the Repubs have people who are willing to criticize the bad leadership. Carson and Trump are examples of the desire for change from the status-quot. I see no hope at all for anything like that from the Dems. Frankly, it reminds me of the so called "moderate Muslims" that I keep hearing about that don't support Jihad. They may possible exist, but if they won't speak out against what the radical are doing, they effectively give their tacit support. Or it's equally as possible that those moderate Muslims aren't so moderate after all, they just don't want to get their own hands messy with all the blood, at least for the moment. It's hard to say, if they aren't willing to speak their minds against those who lead them. So how about it. If you really see them all as being from the same mold, then why only offer criticism of the one party? You might be surprised at the strength of a single voice. Or perhaps you prefer the tacit support of silence?
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2015 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is what "we have to find out what the hell is going on?" it is all about.

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