| Author | Message | ||
     Alfau |
no rational statement America is hated by many but for my part I blame their foreign policy for my mental issues, namely posttraumatic stress caused by my involvement in the Vietnam war so long ago. You •••••••. | ||
| Aesquire |
Thanks Alfau. Seriously. Vietnam is what happens when ( usually Democrat ) Politics rules foreign policy. You could not ask for a better reason to distrust American Politicians than Vietnam, Until Today with The Caliphate War. What started with aid, advisers, and a trickle of trainers, in Vietnam, led to insane rules of engagement, President Johnson personally picking targets to bomb, and forbidding bombing SAM sites, until they shot first. Then after Nixon ended U.S. troop involvement, the ( Democrat ) Congress abandoned Vietnam to the tune of tens of millions of murdered people. And a wave of escapees, many lost at sea. ( and Australia deserves far more credit than it ever gets both in Vietnam and rescuing refugees. ) I point out that Sec State Kerry has repeatedly lied through his expensive teeth about Vietnam, including denying that there were ANY mass murders in the region. And he helped. North Korea, USSR, China, Cuba, North Viet-Nam and the list of those starved by the USA goes on and on. That happens to be 180 degrees turned from the truth. MOST of the food GIVEN to N. Korea, Just to pick one, is from the U.S. Your statement is false to fact. If there is starvation in any of those countries it is because the dictators either did so deliberately, ( in Ukraine & China ) or their F-head Ideology killed or displaced all the farmers, ( Zimbabwe, Cambodia ) or Political Science ( Lysenkoism ) trashed crop yields and land. ( Russia, N Korea, Cuba ) You did mean that that tramp is American didn't you ? Hey! She's OUR Lady. You got your own. Not that the record is sterling, let's see.... there were the Camps for the Japanese in WW2. ( Democrat Prez ) Pretty much every case of mass murder ( in the tens of thousands ) not counting our Aboriginal population, is due to one of 2 religions, and Socialism/etc. is number one with a bullet to the back of the head. The problem comes when Leftists take power in America. Vietnam. ( Democrat Prez & Congress ) Libya. ( Democrat/LibTheology Prez. ) WW1. ( Dem.... But WE didn't start that one.... Ditto WW2 ) Iran. ( Democrat prez.) leading to Iraq. ( yes, a Republican ) and Syria. ( Democrat ) Caliphate War. ( Democrat ) Spanish American War.....( guess ) Yes, I am well aware that once the Party of Slavery takes power, bad to completely insane decisions are made. Look at it this way. If Barack Obama ( Or Hillary ) were President in 1941, Pearl Harbor Never would have happened, the U.S. would never have gone to war in the Pacific, because he would have sold Australia to Japan to get His Legacy on a Peace Deal. Like Barry might next year with China. That's why we argue politics. BTW I'm against Barry selling Australia. It's wrong, and he doesn't own it, but he thinks he does. (Message edited by aesquire on September 26, 2015) | ||
| Sifo |
When discussing our less than sterling moments, one should probably also include the forcible relocation of our Indian population that became known as the Trail of Tears. That was done under President Van Buren, a Democrat. Of course that pales when compared to modern atrocities. | ||
| Greatlaker |
"BTW I'm against Barry selling Australia. It's wrong, and he doesn't own it, but he thinks he does." Like I said delusional. Why doesn't anyone here get annoyed by this useless crap??? | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
How do we know that things would have been any different under a republican? | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Liberals annoy me | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
far right or far left annoy me | ||
| Aesquire |
Far right or far left kill you. That is annoying. In the U.S. there really isn't much of a far right. The ultra conservatives you ever hear from are like the town elders in "Foot Loose". Sour old busybody no fun uptight weirdos. The far left otoh........ nihilistic dictatorial pathology. Far more likely to jail Kevin Bacon.... Don't agree? Wear a t shirt with a musket to school. | ||
| Aesquire |
Chamberlain didn't own Czechoslovakia. Sold it anyway. | ||
| Aesquire |
How do we know that things would have been any different under a republican? Good question. It, of course, depends on the person, not the party. FDR may have been the right choice for WW2. ( people can argue that endlessly... go ahead ) American Isolationism was in full swing before WW1&2. Woodrow Wilson's "too proud to fight" speech. http://www.rmslusitania.info/primary-docs/too-prou d-to-fight/ I think Wilson was a horrible President, and violated his oath, and abused power. ( in the cause of a Higher Power, Just like Barry, Regressive Authoritarian Collectivism ) But who's to say his long dead opponent would have been better? ( well, me, but that's speculation ) But, let's consider recent history. Jimmie (D) kick starts the World Wide Jihad by supporting the Ayatollah Ruhollah Moosavi Khomeini in taking control of Iran. Ronnie (R) kicks the Cubans out of Grenda, and sets up the fall of the Soviet Union. ( separate, but related ) George the Elder (R) frees Kuwait, and presides over the fall of the Iron Curtain. Bill (D) dismantles the military, bombs the Balkans, ( mixed results, with later problems with the Russians built in, but over all a win ) refuses to stop Bin Laden, and begins the second war on Iraq. ( Using the true facts that Saddam had a LOT of WMD's in storage, and supports terrorism ) But doesn't follow through. George the Younger (R) follows Bill's anti- Iraq policy, and takes it to conclusion. Brilliantly. ( but you can give credit to the Military for that. Georgie was smart enough to set goals and turn them loose to win. And, note, does so with an Entire U.S. Army smaller than the deployed force in Desert Storm. ) Then does a horrible job of the occupation after the war. Some really really bad decisions, including his choice for Viceroy. Over all, frees 50 million people from tyranny, and leaves office with AQ in ruins, and Afghanistan unstable... but no one could make Afghanistan stable. Not Alexander, Britain, the Soviets, or Us. Barry (D) Insists Iraq was the wrong war. ( maybe ) Afghanistan the Right War. ( Wrong )and abandons both to the winds of fate... then blows on them by supporting the overthrow of Liberia, Libya, Egypt, and Syria. Actually goes to war in Libya against a long term foe the Georgie had de-fanged, and without consent from Congress. Supported the Islamic Jihad Rapist faction in Egypt, and is STILL punishing Egypt for tossing out the genocidal dictator he supported. Supplied weapons to Syrian Rebels, ( from Libya through the Islamist dictator of Turkey,( give him time ) who then proceeded to become ISIS, Conquer parts of Iraq & Syria, commit genocide, re-establish medieval slave markets and make Rape a National Sport. Barry actually takes the prize as Worst President from Jimmie, and most bald faced liar since Bill. Also doubles the Debt, and NEVER signs an actual budget. Would Mitt the rich dude have done better than Barry? I don't know. Any randomly chosen farmer would have done better than Barry. So far looks to ME like the R's have an advantage in actual outcomes. Better in economics and foreign policy. ( even including Iraq. Don't forget, Hillary was FOR the Iraq War. So was Bill. And John Kerry.) That does not mean that ANY Republican candidate is a better choice than ANY Democrat candidate. ( it's the way to bet, but it's not a lock ) Jeb, for example, might be worse than Joe Biden. I could be wrong. Hard to imagine, eh? Anyone not an android assassin programmed to slaughter mankind would be better than Hillary. | ||
| Alfau |
Barry O'Farrell resigned after being exposed as a liar. Hope it catches on. Ostracizing Nations leads to hardship and even starvation. Not that you are prepared to acknowledge that minor consequence, You prefer to blame the Democrats. | ||
| Aesquire |
While I'm at it a Big Cheer for Boner resigning... What a putz. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_O%27Farrell ??? A Bottle of wine? Seriously? Awesome! Barack Obama charges $500,000 to see him for lunch on occasion to pitch your deal to him. $3000 bottle of wine? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!  | ||
| Ducbsa |
"Ostracizing Nations leads to hardship and even starvation. " surely isn't your example of the US causing those dictatorships to starve their people? How weak. | ||
| Alfau |
How about the US treats blacks as inferiors. Is that a better? | ||
| Hootowl |
The "US" does? Most Democrats do. That isn't everyone. The US is the most diverse and inclusive country in the history of the world. You need to get over yourself. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Are you implying that no republicans treat blacks as inferiors? Or other people of color (oh, like, I dont know...Mexicans) | ||
| Sifo |
I think he's saying, and I would agree, that it's the Democratic party that has institutionalized the poor treatment of blacks. The examples of this are numerous. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Alfau, have you been to the US or do you only get your information on race relations from your favorite sources? If you are going to go down that road, fill us in on the treatment of the Aborigines and maybe the deep meaning of the personal quote in your profile. (No revisions allowed, remember screenshots.) Has Australia had a PM, top Military man. or Foreign Minister of color? The US has. You are handicapped by your biased sources and reliably fail to back up your ill-informed charges with facts, as opposed to leftist propaganda. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Im not saying they (dems) dont, but they arent alone in treating people of color poorly/inferior | ||
| Aesquire |
True. Racists come in all political parties. But institutionalized racism is SOP with Progressives, see the ongoing eugenics program of Planned Parenthood, the bitter deliberate racism of Liberation Theology, and the D Party has more than a century of pro-slavery history. Including a Grand Klegel in Congress, just recently. | ||
| Pwnzor |
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| Hootowl |
"Or other people of color (oh, like, I dont know...Mexicans)" Example please? Requiring that people enter the country legally is not racist, that's just Republicans being, well, members of a Republic, or a representative government ruled by law. This is distinctly different from a Democracy, where the mob rules, regardless of what the law says. So...how do Republicans treat "people of color" poorly? Remember that I live in Texas, a solidly republican state where whites are a minority. Conservatism is not a color. To think otherwise is truly racist. | ||
| Aesquire |
I often annoy people with this question. If you were a racist who hated blacks, wanted a 70% illegitimate child rate or worse, the destruction of black families and churches, maximum dependence on welfare programs, and schools that deliberately dumbed down inner city kids...... what would you have done differently than the D dominated congress has done since WW2? No one except Liberation Theology/Progressive types....... and some morons, thinks race has a darn thing to do with talent or morality. There is solid evidence that Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews test higher as a group than other groups. Cultural conditioning is probably the main reason, since different groups of Hispanic descent test differently. There may be a eugenics component to the Ashkenazi testing better than Sephardic Jews. But other than bell curve variations, no race is notably inferior. Except the English. ( so says the guy of Irish descent  | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
"Example please? " How about leading R candidate Trump and his comments about Mexicans being rapists? | ||
| Sifo |
"Example please? " How about leading R candidate Trump and his comments about Mexicans being rapists? Well he didn't say they were all rapists, but that a certain segment, who were already ignoring the law, also had some pretty bad issues with ignoring our violent crime laws too. Something that he seems to be somewhat accurate about. I guess these days, that counts as racist. | ||
| Hootowl |
Mexicans who rape people are rightly called rapists, just like anyone else, regardless of nationality. Should we give them a pass because they're not white? That would be racist. | ||
| Pwnzor |
R candidate Trump He doesn't have the party's nomination. He's just a guy with a lot of money making noise. | ||
| Aesquire |
You have to separate the Party Leaders from the Candidates and the voter. 3 different animals. Are all Democrat Voters racist? Heck no. Tiny minority, just like Republicans. Is Hillary racist? Probably not, she's from Chicago suburbs, and unlikely to have the same racist crap crammed into her in childhood, unlike Bill. Is Bill racist? A bit, in Policy if not public declaration. Mentored by Fulbright, an opponent to the Equal rights and antiracist voting laws of my youth, I expect there's some unspoken assumptions that Bill makes. His high praise at the funeral of the last admitted High KKK official in Congress and comments afterword point out, ( oddly honestly ) that Byrd was elected, originally, in large part because a Southern Democrat Politician had to be a KKK member to get elected. Honest historical fact. From Bill. Who'd a thought? The other D candidates? Bernie is from New England, and while the Socialist Party has long been very racist, I don't know enough about him to comment. Or the other 6+ candidates that will not appear on the news because "Hillary Will Be The Candidate" according to the "media". D Party Leadership has long been racist, with a rich tradition of pro-slavery legislation for over a century, much of it long after slavery was stopped. ( anti-black gun control laws, anti inter racial marriage laws, anti minority voting laws, etc. etc. ) The deliberate myth that the D's have always championed the Blacks while the R's are racist is so wrong it's mind bending. Right through LBJ's comment "I'll have those n*****s voting Democrat for two-hundred years" https://www.quora.com/Did-LBJ-really-say-Ill-have- those-n*****s-voting-Democrat-for-two-hundred-years-when- passing-the-Great-Society-legislation Up to today's baseline Party belief that Blacks need to have lower standards applied to them, The D party has institutionalized racism to an enormous degree. The 20th century take over of the D Party by Progressives has solidified this racism, but in Progressive natural dishonesty, insist it was the Republicans that oppress the minorities. I expect in 20 years that textbooks will insist the Republican Party was the party of slavery, and only the True Hero's of the Working Class, The Democrats, ended Slavery and Stopped the Unjust Civil War..... The truth will be that forgotten. Is Trump racist? BTFOM. His comments that importing criminals from Mexico and S. America, and refusing to deport them, leads to murder & rape is accurate. If we had an invasion of Canadian rapists, drug dealers, and coyotes streaming across N. Dakota and Montana borders, ( and they were to be registered as Democrat Voters ) the Washington D.C. Dems would care as little about the Americans in the Dakotas and Nebraska being robbed and assaulted as they are the Americans in Texas, Kansas, and Nebraska today. Fly over country, not that many votes, and not Democrat strongholds, so F&^% them. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
btfom? |
