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| Aesquire |
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/more-democrats-crack-ope n-door-biden-presidential-run-172225787.html Some people prefer the really creepy cretin who is so obviously incompetent, the News Reporters call him "Just Joe"..... as in, he says something so stupid anyone else on the planet would lose their jobs and be shunned by anyone with a brain, and they say, "It's Just Joe".......... To.... An obviously lying sociopath who was handed enormous power and influence and showed zero competence at anything except naked corruption and not being convicted because her philandering husband is a charming sociopath. I suppose the Biden fans are unaware anyone else is running. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417266/marti n-omalleys-modern-day-know-nothingness-jonah-goldb erg?target=author&tid=897 | ||
| Sifo |
And just because this seems to be a current election issue... The Very Real Economic Costs of Birthright Citizenship
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| Strokizator |
Additionally, U.S.-born children of illegal aliens are entitled to American public schools, health care, and more, No need to be a US citizen there. Just show up at school and they provide a spanish-speaking teacher for your kid. Free lunch program and medical services too. Plus, plus, plus, ad nauseam. | ||
| Aesquire |
even though illegal-alien households rarely pay taxes. I have some doubts on that statement. Many do not, but not all. They may be paying taxes for a fiction or dead person, but a lot of taxes are paid by illegals. Not what is "owed" by all means. The answer is simple. Hard, but simple. Either enforce the borders, and stop giving public services to illegals, deport those you catch..... so you can have a socialized welfare program. Or, open the borders and let in who ever wants to have our freedom, and stop socialized welfare. You CANNOT have both open borders and social programs. Period. It does not work. ( leave aside the argument that such programs are not affordable without illegals either ) | ||
| Sifo |
BO gave him "permission" to run.   | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/hillary-clin ton-liar-factor-2016-121828.html?hp=t1_r When voters were asked the first word that came to their mind about Clinton, the top three replies were indictments of her trustworthiness. The number one response was “liar.” Then came “dishonest,” followed by “untrustworthy.” Overall, more than a third of poll respondents said their first thought about Clinton was some version of: She’s a liar. In an era of declining confidence in government, it’s not unusual that voters would find a politician less than honest. But the striking reality is that, for Clinton, a lack of trust is the first thing many think of. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/422496/keep-h andy-jonah-goldberg?target=author&tid=897 Yes, the Hillary campaign has started to complain that "if only you could read the evidence she destroyed, you'd see how wonderful she is and how pure and innocent of any wrongdoing...." But, alas, we cannot. Poor Hillary. I don't know what the rules over at State say about keeping your own e-mail server. I know they say you shouldn't, but I doubt there's a lot of jail time for it. I do know it's illegal to conceal public records by doing your business, as Secretary Of State, with a server not backed up by the government in obedience to the Law. I don't know what the penalty for that is. For me, probably 5 years in a Federal Prison, For Hillary, nothing. The one law I bothered to actually read, the one Hillary and her minions freely admit she did break, has as it's simplest penalty, on top of fines and possible jail time, the simple statement that if you break it, if you destroy evidence that MAY BE subpeoned, not has been, which, btw, it has....just may be... You are ineligible to hold public office. Ever. Again. Politico speculates that Biden running will be a boost for Clinton. Makes sense. Then all the talk will be of Just Joe's gaffs, weirdness, and incompetence. Not how Hillary is a lying corrupt monster. He isn't that bad at running for office, btw. Doing an actual Job may be beyond his capacity. But he can Run, pretty darn good. | ||
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| Pellis |
Marty O'Malley http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-om alley-furniture-20150828-story.html | ||
| Hootowl |
How very Clinton of him. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders According to Bernie's minions who buff his wiki article, he Over the next few years he took various jobs in New York and Vermont and spent several months on an Israeli kibbutz. I too worked various jobs, including retail, fast food restaurants, and manufacturing. I suspect none of those are on Bernie's list. Someone should ask him. Also he worked at the nonprofit American People's Historical Society. I don't know if that counts as an actual job, in the sense us peasants would see it. Anyhoo.... I have to call foul on the Karl & Bernie poster, even though I laughed at it. Bernie may actually have had a job. It's just right now what job is as much a mystery as who paid for Barry's education. | ||
| Hootowl |
That's easy: The parents of the kids who didn't get a free ride. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Aesquire - whoa, slow down with that truth... Let us just believe an internet meme | ||
| Aesquire |
Oh, I laughed. I laughed the first few times when people mocked Barry for thinking there are 57 states, too. But it's not true. He said there were 60. ( and it was a joke. The scary part was how few of his thralls laughed. ) If you want to mock Bernie, feel free. But if you want to actually convince someone who is thinking of voting for Bernie that it's a bad idea, you have to have some truth on your side, so when they ( almost always ) accuse you of lying about their Democrat Party demi-god, you can actually point them at the truth. Sure, a lot of the time they will run away, fingers in ears, screaming na na na na na na! But you have to expect that from apparatchiks, or folk who have bought the many, many lies the Progressives use as easily as breathing. You better get your ducks in a row, because the Clintonistas are working very hard to convince people of obvious lies, and Hillary is a defiant liar, not a glib one like Bill. Despite anything Barry does, Bernie has a shot, for the SAME reason The Donald is messing the R Establishment up. He is occasionally telling truths that the Establishment does not want you to hear, and that conviction, from truth, shines through when real people listen. I still don't want him to be President, if only because his ideology has produced more pain, suffering and death than any other religion in History, including the one that is crucifying children, burning men alive, and gang raping women. Today. Yes, Bernie hasn't sent anyone to be worked to death in a labor camp. Yet. He may never do so. People would have said the same thing about the new Chancellor of Germany in 1933. ( btw, Hitler was also a Socialist. ) The Hillary hits just keep on coming. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423340/clint on-e-mail-scandal-a-laughable-defense Notice that this is a side show, and they are not talking about her already admitted crime. Destroying public documents that may be ( and were ) subpeonaed in an investigation. IMHO, all this is just looking for more years for her to spend in Prison. | ||
| Aesquire |
OTOH, it may indeed be true that Bernie has never had an actual job. | ||
| Sifo |
Aesquire - whoa, slow down with that truth... Let us just believe an internet meme We know what most of our recent Presidents did before politics. We even know that BO was a community organizer. Technically a job, but not what I would call a real job. We know that Hillary got fired from her job for ethics violations. We know details of pretty much everyone else running for President. So tell me... What jobs did Bernie hold? I'm listening. Educate me so that I may learn. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/09/01/hillary-email s-heres-a-proposed-mission-statement-for-hillary-r odham-clinton-university/ | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Sifo - can you prove that he has NOT worked those jobs that Aesquire mentioned? Look, it doesnt matter if you like him or not, you should care about TRUTH. Before you get all pissy that a meme was incorrect you should do the homework before posting it. | ||
| Aesquire |
It happens. I'm not right all the time, and it's a funny pic. Neither Sifo or I are mad at each other, I think. Do you remember the Heath Ledger "Joker" picture of Obama? It went viral, and faded out. I once read the perfect caption for that "meme" would have been "Why so Socialist?", and it would then have been the Perfect meme for Obama, instead of a somewhat insulting flash in the pan. Didn't happen, though. Likewise the above Karl & Bernie pic has potential, from a P.R. standpoint, with a different caption. I don't have a clue what that catchy caption would be. The Obvious, truthful and boring one would be "Believe in socialism" or some such. Dull. Got a better one? Please? ( too lazy to make it a contest...  ...) | ||
| Sifo |
Sifo - can you prove that he has NOT worked those jobs that Aesquire mentioned? What were those exactly? Oh, wait, I have it right here... "Over the next few years he took various jobs in New York and Vermont and spent several months on an Israeli kibbutz." I don't doubt that between getting his Political Science degree and running for office, he has various jobs. Probably all connected to politics. I had to look up what a kibbutz was. Basically he went to a Israeli commune. Not really a job IMO. So how can I disprove something that is undefined? You kind of have to define what job he had before you can expect someone to prove he didn't have it. What is the TRUTH here? Truth is, he doesn't have much of a resume outside of politics. Feel free to prove me wrong on that. I actually did look for some sort of details for a bit, but didn't find any. He's the one applying for the job, so shouldn't he provide his qualifications to the folks making the hiring decision? Seems to me that the meme might just be pretty damn close to the truth. Neither Sifo or I are mad at each other, I think. Only folks I'm mad at this AM is my union. We passed a new contract close to a month ago, sight unseen. I asked about getting a copy of it this morning and was told that they are still negotiating with management to get it signed. WTF? They just spent 3 months negotiating with management before putting it to a vote with the union members. Now they are making changes? Is this how unions normally work? I'm beginning to understand how certain folks have no problem with how Obamacare was done. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Sifo: "Also he worked at the nonprofit American People's Historical Society" That is a place he (Aes) referenced Hey, I dont know the guys work history, but I'd find it hard to believe he NEVER had a job. Feel for you on the Union stuff dude | ||
| Aesquire |
You could say Bernie is a pure political animal. Pretty much his adult life is political. If he was mainstream D or R, he'd be the ultimate insider, like Joe Biden is. He's been in the Socialist/Left party scene, though. So oddly the ultimate insider is an outsider. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/presi dent/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-38 24.html | ||
| Aesquire |
http://cdn.rollcall.com/news/too_many_judges_state _department_says_of_clinton_emails-243473-1.html?p opular=true&cdn_load=true&zkPrintable=1&nopaginati on=1 | ||
| Chauly |
"What’s not helping: the document review platform the department uses can't ingest most forms of electronic data. Because of that, "most potentially responsive documents must first be printed and then scanned into the system, even if documents are received electronically,” the department states" That makes me feel better about government snooping. All I have to do is use an obscure e-mail format, and the Justice Dept. wheels will grind to a halt! "You'll never catch up to me, copper!" | ||
| Sifo |
Sifo: "Also he worked at the nonprofit American People's Historical Society" That is a place he (Aes) referenced Hey, I dont know the guys work history, but I'd find it hard to believe he NEVER had a job. Hey, I'm all for examining the truthfulness of a meme. Especially one I posted. I've pulled a couple down when they've been shown to miss the mark. So how far off the mark is this one? Interesting article (seems to be a very fair article BTW) on Sanders here... http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/ber nie-sanders-vermont-119927?o=0 His "work history" is spattered through out the article. He has been described as "virtually unemployed". It sounds like the American People's Historical Society came from desperation when he felt he was failing in politics. He chose to start a non-profit "educational" group that mostly produces film strips marketed toward gradeschoolers. He seems to have focused on history that he felt went unrecognized in the main stream. His big achievement was a short film titled Debs. Doesn't sound great... http://www.jstor.org/stable/491683?seq=1#page_scan _tab_contents Here's a bit more info on American People's Historical Society and his propaganda film. http://blog.uvm.edu/uvmsc-specialcollections/?p=15 2 So it's untrue that he never held a job. Actually it sounds like he held a number of them, just long enough to get canned and collect unemployment insurance. It does seem fair to say he never held a job he put any effort into, or did well at, other than running his non-profit educational organization that was set up to spread the socialist agenda. Even at that, it sounds like he did it poorly for the few years it was in existence. So we are left with the question of the meme. It says he never held an "actual job". Is spreading socialist propaganda an "actual job"? That's probably more a matter of perspective than absolute truth. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423536/hilla ry-clinton-server-denials-are-pathetic-joke-jonah- goldberg?target=author&tid=897 | ||
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| Aesquire |
“Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.” Frederic Bastiat, “The Law” |
