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     Airbozo |
Why would a teacher vote republican based on the no-child-left-behind mess and Jeb's common core debacle? Both republican (and Bush) failures being pushed down their throats with little input from those that actually teach in the classroom? | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Every time I open Badweb Quickboard and see this thread I chuckle.  Whenever that Clinton wench opens her mouth her ratings go down ....lower and lower. This is why you don't see her much and when she does appear, she speaks very little. But, I am afraid that when this deal folds, Not only Obama and his cronies but the Iranians as well will all bash the Republicans just in time for the election. Nothing like dividing us more. But wait a min..OMG... Pelosi supports the Obama "The Islamic Republic of Iran" Deal?? Of course she does... It must be as good as Obamacare. I guess we have to let them have it before actually see what they do with it???  | ||
| Airbozo |
I think the Iranians bashing the Republicans would help them in the long run... | ||
| Tod662 |
"But wait a min..OMG... Pelosi supports the Obama "The Islamic Republic of Iran" Deal?? Of course she does... It must be as good as Obamacare. I guess we have to let them have it before actually see what they do with it" Guess what almost EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD supports it, except Israel. Go Bernie, wheres my video... | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Possible, I guess they want to be rid of the giant Americans umbrella and be a free nation, just like most Americans want less government and more job and business. Are Democrats really Republicans but don't know it? You really think they are not starting a new cold war in the middle east? Or your like Nancy and want to wait and see what happens first?? | ||
| Hootowl |
"with little input from those that actually teach in the classroom" You mean the ones responsible for the dismal state of education in this country in the first place? Heaven forbid someone sets a measurable goal. | ||
| Tod662 |
from the climate discussion: ""Bernie Sanders or the Koch Brothers?" But, since you asked, I'll answer. The Koch brothers. Of the three, who has been the one to: Spend more money every year that we collect in taxes. Restrict, or attempt to restrict, rights guaranteed by the Constitution. Embrace and perpetuate ideas and ideologies that US service members have fought and died trying to prevent from being visited upon us. Thank about that. Now, of the three, who has: First and foremost, done none of the above. Created more jobs than any politician ever hoped to. Created wealth by growing the economy, lifting more people out of poverty than any politician ever has by theft and redistribution. Do you see the pattern? Bernie talks the same talk as all the other socialists/communists of the past. Their greed and envy ends with the deaths of millions and economic ruin. He's speaking the same words. Can you not see that? Don't be one of the multitudes cheering on Mao, Stalin, Hitler, and Pol Pot while they vilify the successful. Don't tear down success. Encourage others to succeed. It's not a fixed size pie. When the economy grows, there's more money for more people. Show me a socialist state with more millionaires per capita than the US and I'll vote for Bernie myself. But you can't. Such a thing does not exist. Socialism brings only misery and death. Always has. (Message edited by hootowl on July 17, 2015)" and then ""The Koch brothers alone will spend more than the Democratic and Republican parties to influence the outcome of next year’s elections. That’s not democracy, that’s oligarchy.” Bernie is a man of the left, so I expect nothing else from him, spinning a truth into a lie. It's a lie in what it omits. I'm perfectly willing to believe that they spend more than the RNC and DNC combined. Those organizations are severely limited in what they can spend directly. However, Soros and several of the larger unions EACH outspend the Koch brothers every year, which means that they also outspend the RNC and DNC. If that outrages you, go after the really big money. The Koch brother are bit players compared to the SEIU." really, show me where ANYBODY is going to put anywhere near the $800,000,000.00 to 1 flippin BILLION Dollars that the koch brothers have said that they will spend.??????? Please answer this I may be wrong I didnt research it but show me different. And im a little more OK with a UNION - a LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE, giving lots of money, then single people, I can't even begin to dissect the above statements, that is why us lefties get so frustrated here lots of the statements have zero factual base that take time to factually refute. Almost every word I post is researched and thought out, most of what I see here is corporate thinktank decided talking points that are repeated repeated and repeated until they are believed. the Idea of big business growing the economy has no factual bases, trickle down economics has lead to the greatest inequality in over 100 years. | ||
| Sifo |
And im a little more OK with a UNION - a LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE, giving lots of money You do understand that this money isn't given freely, or necessarily for the purpose that it being use for. BTW, "given" is the wrong term here. Taken is far more accurate. There is no choice. It's simply a condition of work in too many states. the Idea of big business growing the economy has no factual bases, trickle down economics has lead to the greatest inequality in over 100 years. And again, you contradict yourself. Not long ago you were saying it wasn't about targeting the rich. Now that's exactly what you are doing. The problem isn't that there are insanely rich folks like Trump for example. The problem is the poor having opportunity to move up. Eliminate the rich, and you eliminate the opportunity for the poor to change their station in life. Pay them to be poor, as our government currently does, and you remove the incentive for the poor to change their station in life. That's a far bigger problem than folks like Bill Gates, just to pick one from the other side of the political spectrum. | ||
| Aesquire |
Large groups of people do not decide who the Union gives money to. A very small, and very well paid, group of professional Union Leaders decide, and while in the case of MY Union, they put out a poll in the news magazine, then did what they wanted anyway, the Teacher's Union just decided who they wanted to spend their subject's money on. "with little input from those that actually teach in the classroom" You mean the ones responsible for the dismal state of education in this country in the first place? The ones responsible are the politicians and unions and bureaucrats that set the cirriculum. Not the teachers. It's No Child Gets Ahead and Commie Core that are major cash cows for the testing companies that bribed the politicians to be sole source for a major testing program, AND the IT companies that get paid to run the Data bases, ( after, of course, bribing the politicians to get the gig ) AND the political activist who created this gestapo like juggernaut that already has teachers having children inform on their parents, propagandize Obedience to Authority, and selectively re-write history to support the agenda of authoritarian rule. And that's the good points. Feel free to be angry at Georgie Bush, who passed No Child Gets Ahead. Seriously. He deserves it. | ||
| Aesquire |
Tod's economic understanding is limited to the soundbites from Bernie. To be fair, most people's are limited to the 4 minutes of news a week on the subject they see on tv. Bernie, obviously, tells the tale to promote his philosophy. His philosophy is based on deceit, so his tale is mostly lies. Tod says trickle doesn't doesn't work BECAUSE that's what he was told. I wonder if he knows who defined trickle down economics? What it actually means? Where the falsehood lies? Want to start a betting pool? | ||
| Tod662 |
I am not against rich being rich, I am against corporate welfare and the menagerie of tax loop holes for the rich. Why is money freely earned with out labour (capitol gains) only taxed at half the rate that the rest of us pay? Why was BP able to write off the gulf coast disaster, why have many huge- and hugly profitable companies been able to pay close to ZERO tax dollars year in and year out. Why is it that in this recovery almost all the gains have gone to the richest americans? As our infrastructure they use to gain is falling to pieces. Look up statistics on the value of the average american's work hour. For 20 years the repubs have controlled congress and that has lead to our current level of inequality. There has been a war of the classes for a very long time, but nobody told the poor. And those poor unionised states what is the per capita income in right to work states VS. states where unions are prevalent. The opportunities in this country are stifled by the top 1% syphoning off so much of the earnings. Labour costs are the make or break aspect of very few industries in this day and age. Sloppy over paid exects though on the other hand... Sifo in the next year I will have you (just like Aesquire) praising Bernie, you ask almost the right questions!  https://youtu.be/nsDYAtKlsT4 | ||
| Aesquire |
I can only answer a few of these in easy terms. Why is it that in this recovery almost all the gains have gone to the richest americans? They Bribed Obama. Yes, that's an oversimplification, but true. Also, Progressives like Obama LUV aristocracies, and want to be them. As our infrastructure they use to gain is falling to pieces. But...Barry spent a Trillion Dollars.... could it be most went to those who bribed him? Uh, yes. The bridges are bad because politicians stole the money they took from us to fix the bridges and gave it to people that bribed them. I wish it was more complex than that. And those poor unionised states what is the per capita income in right to work states VS. states where unions are prevalent. The opportunities in this country are stifled by the top 1% syphoning off so much of the earnings. Labour costs are the make or break aspect of very few industries in this day and age. Sloppy over paid exects though on the other hand... As near as I can tell this entire paragraph is utter bull crap. Anyone else see even a smidgen of rationality in it? I am against corporate welfare and the menagerie of tax loop holes for the rich. tell the politicians that took bribes to put in the loopholes. Some loopholes are good ideas. Some are very narrowly targeted on the very few. Why is money freely earned with out labour (capitol gains) only taxed at half the rate that the rest of us pay? I assume you meant "our labor". Because it's already had income tax paid on it once. I take the money I earn after taxes, and I buy a stock, (case of beer, Bag of spent 9mm cartridges, my little pony collection, whatever ) and I sell it for a profit, later, why should you tax that as income? It's not. It's an investment I made with after tax money. | ||
| Sifo |
Sifo in the next year I will have you (just like Aesquire) praising Bernie, you ask almost the right questions! Socialism just lacks the right answers. Praising Bernie just isn't going to happen. You say you have nothing against the rich, but keep attacking them as the problem. It's the rules that they operate under (that would be our government) that is the problem most of the time. | ||
| Hootowl |
"the Idea of big business growing the economy has no factual bases (sic)" Now I get it. You and I don't live in the same reality. We will never see eye to eye on this subject. So...we would be better off without Boeing, Microsoft, Apple, Dell, Cisco, and the thousands of other businesses that employ thousands of people? That our economy would be just as large without them? If so, well, you're insane. There's no other word for it. OK, maybe delusional. | ||
| Airbozo |
"You mean the ones responsible for the dismal state of education in this country in the first place? Heaven forbid someone sets a measurable goal." Said with the ignorance of an armchair quarterback. Despite what the media and other political folks will tell you, there are measurable goals in place. Teachers get evaluated yearly in most places and if they are not living up to the goals set in place they are admonished and shown the right path. If they continue to fail, they can be removed from the classroom. The union makes it hard to outright fire a teacher most will agree that needs to change. 99% of the teachers I know (and I know a lot of them), are hard working, dedicated to their kids and school. They also have more education than most doctors and are required to keep their education up to date and must renew their credentials on a regular basis, which involves evaluations and education requirements. As stated, classroom teachers are not responsible for setting the curriculum standards, that lies with the parents and district officials, again, with little input from those actually teaching. Just look at the debacle in Texas when they start selecting textbooks that teach Intelligent Design. Since Texas has a huge school system, books selected by Texas end up in classes all around the country. Add to it things like "No Child Left Behind" and "Common Core" which set specific requirements dreamed up by politicians and you set up the schools for failure. These same politicians take in tons of money from special interests pushing charter schools and voucher programs that employ teachers with no regulations and are not required to have the same levels of education, training and background checks that public education teacher are required to have. This is a recipe for failure to push your money from public school systems to private corporations that deliver less to your kids. Those same private school systems are allowed to select the students they want in their schools, further swaying the numbers in their favor. Could you imagine a public school denying enrollment to your kid because they don't get straight "A's"? That is exactly what happens in charter and voucher based education systems. Plus they are not required to provide services to special needs children and instead push that financial responsibility to the public school system. Are there bad teachers? Absolutely! Just like in any other profession. It's not an easy job and does not pay well either. Most teachers are there because they want to be and care about the education of their students. Teachers have one of the highest divorce rates of any profession, higher rates of bladder cancer (can't just slip out of the classroom to pee) and higher occurrences of breast cancer than most professions. I could go on... You seem to be able to read and write and ought to thank a teacher for that ability instead of bashing them as a whole in ignorance. | ||
| Hootowl |
I apologize. That was written in haste and with little thought. I am no common core fan. However, look at the literacy rate of our high school 'graduates' and tell me something isn't wrong with the system. | ||
| Hootowl |
Fyi-my mother taught me to read. But I had some great teachers, both in public and private schools. Best math teacher I had was in public school. He was a tail gunner in the Air Force in ww2. Hell of a teacher. I will never forget him. | ||
| Aesquire |
As the "Occupy" crowd complain about big corporations on their IPhones, while sipping their latte from Starbucks, wearing their Gap outfits with Nike sneakers, I have to wonder why they don't see the irony. Meanwhile the Socialist leaders of the Movement live in the Four Seasons while the expendable, eager college age kids hang in the weather in their North Face tents. I noticed this, some others have too. That fact that I like Bernie way more than Hillary is NOT an endorsement of Bernie. I also prefer diarrhea to vomiting. Actually, in context, that's unfair to the diarrhea. The thing to remember about all the great mass murderers in history is they didn't start off monsters. At what point the lust for power turned them into an emotionally damaged person is unclear. Stalin didn't start out with the intention of murdering millions, nor did Mao, but the system of authoritarian rule, and the base foundation of lie to gain power from the Marxist ideology, may have made it inevitable that they would become monsters. Bernie, has all the makings of a future monster, well meaning, earnest, has some worthy causes. If he had the power to order the death of those who stand in the way of paradise, would he not use it? Maybe Jeb too, but Hillary seems like she's already been there for quite a while. | ||
| Hootowl |
"That fact that I like Bernie way more than Hillary is NOT an endorsement of Bernie. I also prefer diarrhea to vomiting." That very well may be the quote of the century. | ||
| Aesquire |
I should also point out that both Bush's, Regan, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama ( so far ) and even Richard Nixon did not mass murder millions of Americans. A few on the above have gone to war with other nations, with mixed results, and a few of them have abused the power of the office to spy on political enemies, and even persecute citizens who did not share their views. Having the IRS pointed at you by a politician should, in an ideal world, have the IRS functionary stripped of his job, possibly his pension, and maybe years in jail. The politicians should of course, be crushed under heavy stones in the Islamic tradition of executing homosexuals. Why that punishment? Because they screwed people with no consideration for their humanity or sex. I'd use the punishment for rape, but for some reason I don't understand, we put those people in jail for astonishingly short periods of time. Not nearly good enough for law breakers who see themselves as above the law. Hillary's admitted crimes are only good for 6 years in prison and never being allowed to serve us again, which is proportionate, and fair. The alleged crimes, the huge bribes that led to foreign policy decisions, deserve a bit more harshness. | ||
| Strokizator |
For 20 years the repubs have controlled congress and that has lead to our current level of inequality. And yet in Obama's first 2 years, when they democrats could accomplish anything without - opposition like immigration reform, tax inequities, etc. - they squandered it on a flawed obamacare bill. They waited until they lost control of congress to blame everything on the republicans. I ain't buying your foolishness and naivete. What color is the sun in your world? | ||
| Sifo |
Not to mention the two years prior to BO that the Democrats had control of both houses. I don't know how you can look in a mirror when you make claims like the Republicans have controlled congress for the past 20 years. You destroy your own credibility daily. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html dismal state of education Yeah, it's dismal, but you're picking on the wrong folk. Teachers dislike the cookie cutter, test oriented madness that is No Child Gets Ahead and Commie Core. Administration, at the individual schools has little to do with what's taught, although you can feel free to pick on them for being gimme bureaucrats, and wannabe SS, but it's the district, state and with no legal reason, Federal Administrations that lay down the zero tolerance power madness. The Unions have interest in status quo. Union bosses make a lot. No, More. It's a "Federal" ( read totalitarian/corrupt ) long term dumbing of the herd. You can take that as a deep conspiracy to raise generations of ignorant lower class future servants, or blame modern witchcraft socio-studies mythology, or some combination of the above combined with Pournelle's Iron Law. ( that's my take... in different proportions day to day ) Common standards? Why? A general guideline is fine, but they deliberately no longer teach stuff with no "relevance" to modern students, and if there's anything the Federal Government can do, it's ruin anything. With the VERY BEST of intentions, of course. Huckleberry Finn deserves to be read and discussed by the time you're 12, not forbidden knowledge like the Confederate Flag or Obama's school records. If you can't discuss it, you don't know it, and that's just fine from the viewpoint of somebody evil. Tell me who it is and I'll write a sternly worded letter to them, eh? I will point out that the last 2 Democrat Presidents both had some responsibility for some of the worst schools in the country. Teachers in Arkansas aren't bad teachers, it's the Bureaucracy that oppresses them that is bad. Seriously, ask a teacher. Buy them a drink and you will get an earful. | ||
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| Reindog |
  This belongs here because the Democratic Party is the one of genocide and death.   | ||
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| Aesquire |
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. I'm going camping for 2 weeks. No electricity, no tv, little politics. Hope you folk have fun, good luck with all. | ||
| Chauly |
Another paen to socialism... http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/why-the-ignorant -still-celebrate-che-guevara/?utm_content=buffer10 7c4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_ campaign=buffer | ||
| Reindog |
Corruption at its very finest. This criminal should be behind bars.  |
