| Author | Message | ||
     Northernyankee |
Not sure how many here visit A&R but I won't be any more. There was an article about the Hero HX250R being delayed. The comments section went a bit off track and turned into an EBR receivership discussion, but what got me really riled up was a comment by the site owner Jensen Beeler. "Something I learned long ago Craig, Buell supporters are a lot like climate-change deniers: you can talk facts all day long, but they will only see what they want to see." This probably shouldn't have riled me up and it probably wouldn't have if it was coming from a normal user and not the owner who portray himself as a professional journalist. I did reply to him and will never visit his site again. Here is a link to the article and his comment is about 1/3 of the way down. Asphalt and Rubber (Message edited by Northernyankee on June 03, 2015) (Message edited by Froggy on June 05, 2015) | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
well he's obviously a ••••••••••.... | ||
| 86129squids |
 Gots other things to do, but I WILL be reading that. Sounds like an ai$$hat comment to me already. | ||
| Elsinore74 |
A&R should stick to what they're good at (whatever that may be), and leave the deep end of the cognitive pool to those who don't require water-wings. Anyone who uses the term, "climate change deniers," is either anti-science or simply a tool. Not nearly enough unbiased data for an honest person to arrive at an empirical conclusion. If I recall, Galileo was put under house arrest for being a "geocentric denier." Pardon my rant; please proceed with the thread.  | ||
| Froggy |
Remember, Jensen Beeler is the same douche that organized the entire Bomber Motorcycles hoax, and then claimed we were trying to cover it up. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Buell supporters are a lot like climate-change deniers: you can talk facts all day long, but they will only see what they want to see. You could equally well say Buell haters are a lot like climate-change supporters; you can talk facts all day long, but they will only see what they want to see. | ||
| Rick_fears |
I can see some truth in that. But you get that everywhere in any situation. There is always that "one guy" per say. In all my years of mechanical exploits I have only met two groups who best the buellers in die-hard brand loyalty; GM, and honda. Not that that's a bad thing. | ||
| Ourdee |
Is the new Africa Twin here yet!? | ||
| Tod662 |
I'm just going to let you deniers blow more smoke... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
@$$hat & Rubbish | ||
| Hootowl |
How about a combination of the two? A Bad Weather Denier. | ||
| Ljm |
While I don't like his ••••••• attitude, I agree that we are clearly biased, partisan, loyal, and stubborn. What was the downside of that? | ||
| Greatlaker |
What a coincidence that on this very Buell site there are in fact climate change deniers. 1200+ posts and counting. Yet the guy who says it is an a$$whole. How fitting. Do you guys not even see your own hypocrisy? You do have to admit that Buell owners (American Buell owners) are a unique entity quite separate from the rest of the motorcycle owning universe. Just look at the homecoming photos. Welcome to middle aged Crackerville. | ||
| Fast1075 |
The list of people I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire just increased by one. | ||
| Aesquire |
Not Climate Change Deniers, that is a deliberate label to imply a person is a Holocaust Denier, aka a neo-nazi. I'm a Global Warming Skeptic. Also a Con Man Skeptic, and far more willing to discuss facts than the Con men getting rich on fear. Climate Change is real. It's just not what the rich guys tell you. That stuff is proven nonsense. Happy to get into a polite discussion on the other thread. Also some of us have a habit of calling a spade a freaking shovel. This annoys people who had to invent "micro-aggression" because they have such care free lives they have to invent trauma to feel good about themselves. Let them have sex alone. Thanks for saying Buell Owners are unique as a group. Could be true, although the loyalty of Gold Wing guys is pretty intense. Rick is spot on. As far as the pundit and his quote...... I'm proud to be in such company, and thank him for revealing his ignorance and gullibility. | ||
| Pwnzor |
The list of people I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire just increased by one.  | ||
| Greg_e |
I thought that site was for pirates? Only read a few things there and seem to recall that it was all rubbish. Not too worried about what he said, more interested to get some info from the appointed "receiver". | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I can't recall ever having perused Asfelt & Rubdown, is it found "under the counter"? | ||
| Reindog |
At least our resident Troll is quite the party poodle. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Somebody has to, just think of the service that's provided. The grammar seems to be improving a little too, so some positive benefit is being derived. | ||
| Aesquire |
Greatlaker from time to time makes sense. I fancy he may be improving. He may become a responsible adult before SMOD arrives. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
climate change is completely manufactured. Their goal is to create a carbon tax (and credit for them) fund that essentially taxes you for breathing - because you are producing C02. Follow the money - in the US - it all mysteriously seems to land in Chicago Pure bullshit. Are there weather variances - sure; but do please explain to me - how a government tax would / could affect weather. as for A&R - never been there, not motivated to either. | ||
| Tod662 |
Oh yeah its all about a tax. If I wanted to get rich I would pick a plan that directly contradicts the desires of the largest corporations in the world. FOLLOW THE MONEY. How much money is Gore and co. looking to make compared to the profitability of petroleum production and other industries that will be adversely affected if environmental costs are figured in to their bottom line? There is no other first world nation where the fact of man made climate change is strongly debated! Now I would like you guys to tell me that your position is so much better educated then the rest of humanity and NINETY SEVEN PERCENT OF SCIENTIST'S? | ||
| Aesquire |
Ninety seven percent? Why don't you read the Hadley cru e mails? Then notice climate crazy is a protected religion in the UK. Or you could read the facts in the other thread. Happy to enlighten you there. There are no chem trails. HARP doesn't control the weather. (Message edited by aesquire on June 04, 2015) | ||
| Ducbsa |
Relax, the 97% stat is as flawed as their faked data and failed models: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/05/brea king-the-97-percent-climate-consensus-canard.php | ||
| Hughlysses |
As someone told me ~20 years ago: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."  | ||
| Josequinones |
For those no longer reading things over there, you missed the following:
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| Hughlysses |
Thanks for getting us back on-track, Jose. VERY interesting post. | ||
| Reepicheep |
If the 5000 bikes a year plan included the SX, is the number that crazy for one year? If I had budget for a new motorcycle, the SX would have been on the expensive end of what I would consider, but for sure a horse in the race. I'd never even begin to consider a Panagali. | ||
| Hughlysses |
^ You have to wonder if the poster REALLY knew all the details of Erik's business plan for the 1190. While we've been told here the AX would NOT be on the same platform, maybe other EBR models would have shared the engine? |
