| Author | Message | ||
     Patches |
Ted Cruz Insane Canadian Nut Job Announce run for President. Remember the 21 Hours Filibuster Speech? http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03 -22/ted-cruz-is-first-to-declare-and-that-s-probab ly-not-a-good-thing | ||
| Greatlaker |
Well Ted Cruz was born in Canada. Calgary in fact. | ||
| Hootowl |
True. But he was born to an American parent, which makes him a natural born citizen, which is the requirement for becoming President. | ||
| Aesquire |
Being born in Panama was a bit of an issue for McCain. But he was legally an American Born Citizen. The laws making that so are actually pretty intelligent. Dependents of Service persons should not be penalized for their parents service. And of course, Barack Hussein was born in Hawaii, or Washington, or maybe Saudi Arabia for all I know, since he's never released anything but a multilayered pdf allegedly of his record. But almost certainly not born in Kenya. He has lied about being from Kenya....... so he lies, what difference does it make? So was Ted born of U.S. Service persons stationed abroad? No? Then is he legal? looks like yes. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/03/21/b irther-hypocrisy-right-wing-has-no-problem-with-ca nadian-born-senator-ted-cruz-running-for-president / Now, just to be clear, I don't believe Barry The Weasel was born in Kenya. He may have been born in Washington instead of Hawaii. According to some conspiracy ideas, his biological father is not the father of record, Mom lied about who the Daddy was, there is no Marriage record, and the Nazis have a secret Antarctic base. Of all the above, I prefer the Antarctic base. The Kenya bit is because Obama's publisher promoted him as a Kenyan born to sell books, because it made a better, more romantic story. The Kenyan Born State Senator Success Story of a poor immigrant! Barack has himself promoted that lie, at least never had it corrected, and you can't tell me he doesn't read his own hype. But, other than some weird stories from his Kenyan relatives, there's no credible evidence that Barry is Kenyan born. Or Hawaiian born either. | ||
| Patches |
Sarah Palin says he Chews up Barbwire and Spits out Rust. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyjn1aKyY_k The Ballad Of Ted Cruz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk9p9egXhtk | ||
| Reindog |
I just listened to Cruz's speech. I didn't hear a single thing that I disagreed with. What's your beef with Cruz? Small government, halt to illegal immigration, abolishment of the IRS, a strong military. Excuse me but what isn't there to like? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
My only concern with Cruz is the fact that he hasn't been a governor. To me, that is a President in training position. I'd have the same concern for Gowdy. I'd happily support either one. | ||
| Sifo |
Patches will pretend that if there's anything that you can find to disagree on with a candidate, that you should dismiss them completely. In reality, it you don't disagree with just about any candidate on something, it's probably you that should be dismissed. That's the blind allegiance that Democrats have shown to BO. It's the same blind allegiance many will show toward Hillary, just as they did for her husband before. | ||
| Greatlaker |
Hootowl. So any Canadian citizen who has an America parent can be be president of the United States? Does that rule apply to Mexican's too? I know about half a dozen Canadian's with an American parent. It's so cool to know that if they wanted, they could run to be U.S. president too. | ||
| Sifo |
So any Canadian citizen who has an America parent can be be president of the United States? Many on the left argued that exact case when BO's place of birth was questioned. The exact meaning of "natural born citizen" isn't exactly spelled out in our Constitution. It might be a problem for Cruz. It will be fun to see the flip floppers in the media and Congress having their opposing view points edited together and posted on youtube. | ||
| Aesquire |
I'm sure that there are more than half a dozen Canadians, and Mexicans, not to mention French, English, and Ukrainians that not only qualify to be be President of the United States, but would be a far finer choice than Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. Sifo, I've long understood that there will never be a Presidential Candidate that I agree with on all subjects. As a Libertarian leaning Social Liberal ( old school, not Progressive/Communist ) who believes in equal rights, but is also a Fiscal Conservative, ( because the math does not work for eternal overspending ) I count on the tension between factions to keep from destroying my rights, and my nation in debt. The last decade has not been a good one for that strategy, but better than the alternative. Letting the religious nutballs on EITHER side run free with this land is a recipe for utter disaster, and worse. The Religious cherry pickers who want to take from women their hard won rights to be legally equal to a man, the zealots who think that the Holy State should care for us all, and that the State is far more important than the individual. Both, if they gained absolute power would force me to abandon my hope for a relatively peaceful Republic where the excesses of dictatorships are avoided... usually. IF the R's had given Obama EVERYTHING he wanted, we'd be much worse off. As it is, they allowed far too much power to fall into one small group's hands. and that small group are religious zealots of the Alinsky mold. Lie for power, Aristocratic rule, war on a whim. | ||
| Aesquire |
Patches, you do know that the Filibuster is supposed to be an endurance contest? | ||
| Patches |
Aesquire, How much did 21 hours of Ted Cruz reading Dr. Seuss and praising Darth Vader did it cost the American Tax Payers? Was it Money Well Spent? Instead of Arguing the Point he Recited Foolishness. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/27/1241732/- How-Much-Did-21-Hours-of-Ted-Cruz-Cost-the-US | ||
| Hootowl |
Patches...do a little reading on what a filibuster is. It's not about debate. Before there was a gentleman's agreement that instead of actually filibustering they would just say they were going to, and the rest of the legislators would take it as read, filibusters involved reading from an encyclopedia. As long as they were talking, debate wasn't over, and congress couldn't adjourn. Cruz's filibuster was exactly what a filibuster is. | ||
| Macbuell |
No thanks to Cruz or any other Senator. And also, the Republicans need to realize any polarizing figure is NOT good for the general election. I honestly think the best candidate is Bobby Jindal. Or, we want a women to go against Hillary, Nikki Haley although I don't know if she has expressed interest in running. | ||
| Greatlaker |
So if Cruz actually becomes President, does that mean he will be the first Canadian President of America? Does anybody know what his skating skills are like? How hard his slap shot is? What his +/- is? Is he a forward or defenceman? Or worse yet, a goalie? The first Canadian President of America. Thank God. Its about time. | ||
| Patches |
In 21 hours what did Ted Cruz Accomplish? As President what would Ted Cruz Accomplish? | ||
| Aesquire |
did it cost the American Tax Payers? Nothing, it's their job. You filibuster when you want to make the point that this is a Bad Idea, and hope that you can out stubborn the Bad Idea guys. People don't argue in a filibuster, they go get dinner. You want your Bad Idea enough to mess up your plans, you wait until the other guy is too tired. You want to stop the Bad Idea, you stand there and hold your urine to inconvenience the other jerks in Congress. much more polite than duels, although I keep thinking we should bring them back. In 21 hours what did Ted Cruz Accomplish? Made a point. You remember what that point was? Did it annoy the Bad Idea fans? Good. As President what would Ted Cruz Accomplish? You tell me. What does he promise? He could declare a state of emergency and order everyone monitored by a faceless agency, punish his political rivals with the IRS, go to war without asking Congress, preside over ever increasing unemployment, loss of income, riches for those that bribe him, and lie about it, but that's the current status quo that is Obama's schtick. He could do worse. He could do better. | ||
| Court |
Patches: What . . in 6 years . . has O'bama accomplished? And . . . I'm not going to let you off the hook with the easy "gotten us into more wars than any President in history". . . . dig deep. For a warm up . . . (and, yes, the State Dept Spokesperson has been struggling with this) name ONE . . I'll accept just one . . thing that Hillary did as Secretary as State. Ready . . .go By the way . . . I've about as much faith as you that Cruz will ever be President. But . . .your reasons make it sound like you hit your head as a child. | ||
| Aesquire |
Macbuell, I rather like Jindal too. Don't know his foreign policy ideas, or political philosophy, but he seemed to do a good job as Governor. Mostly I don't know what these yahoos think, and will reserve judgment until the press pries into their lives and bashes them. ( That's THEIR job, and thy have sucked at it lately ) If the R leadership hates them, I probably like them. If Karl Rove is trying to destroy them, I probably like them. You know a man by his enemies. | ||
| Aesquire |
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Read more: http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/03/23/the-internet- goes-berserk-why-peoples-heads-are-exploding-over- ted-cruzs-speech-announcing-his-candidacy/#ixzz3VF 8b9a6I Oh! I see you got your internet update on who to hate. Nice work. How much does that pay? Seriously, I can use the income. I just had to install a new sump pump in a partly flooded basement. If I wasn't a paranoid on the subject, I wouldn't have had a spare pump, and I wouldn't have most of the valuable stuff, up off the floor. Pulled 20 gallons of water out of the carpet, have multiple fans running, and need to WD-40 everything, but power saws, electrical stuff, and clean laundry stayed dry. Gotta go buy a new sump pump. | ||
| Patches |
"What . . in 6 years . . has O'bama accomplished?" Nothing Didn't I post before Obama and Dick Cheney are Cousin. There Is No Difference Between the Obama Regime and the Bush Regime. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
We've had the first Kenyan President. Might as well give the Canukans a shot. | ||
| Sifo |
There Is No Difference Between the Obama Regime and the Bush Regime. Proof positive that you have no clue. And also, the Republicans need to realize any polarizing figure is NOT good for the general election. I have no idea how that would ever happen. McCain was polarizing in the general election for crying out loud. Any more "moderate" and you have a full blown Progressive! | ||
| Ulyranger |
At least we know his college record at Princeton and Harvard. Even his final paper is public record......on the Tenth Amendment I agree Senators usually are awful choices for POTUS, but he is hardly cast from the typical Senator mold. Hence the knife marks in his back. Rove, McCain, McConnell and the rest of the spineless rhino structure hate him........means there is a lot to like. His speech today was brilliant and not a telepromter in sight. Hopefully we get some more non-progressives to step up to sink the Jeb boat. I'd welcome listening to Jindal and Walker too. Haley might make a great VP, need to hear more. Rand Paul has been a disappointment of late, getting cozy with the establishment. Yet to make up my mind, but almost feel sorry for anyone debating Cruz......he has a fairly proficient track record there.... Principles above interests, something long lost in both parties Oh, one more thing. I find it interesting that Ted's filibuster draws so much ire from the left when it was considered a valid tactic not so long ago last time the elephants controlled the Senate......such short memories..... | ||
| Reindog |
Did everyone listen to Cruz's speech? It was inspirational and just the kind of speech that Peaches would love. It was about the acceptance of Jesus Christ, making a family whole, and working hard to become successful. Compare Barack Obama's educational resume which is still a mystery to the American public. [from the Wiki] Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton University with a Bachelor of Arts in Public Policy from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs in 1992. After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor degree. While at Harvard Law, Cruz was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review. Referring to Cruz's time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, "Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant." At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
I only caught the highlights but he was great. Can't wait for the Green eggs and Ham mocking from the left. (should be funny, libs usually are) | ||
| Ulyranger |
Xd, you need to do yourself a favor and watch the whole thing. RD, did you look at his debating record? Hint, there's an award or club or something like that named in his honor at Princeton.. The left fears his intelligence and come sense traditional Federalist (I.e. Small G) views. The right hates his independence, for bucking the system and not being a "team" player. Principles above interests. This man will go down in flames before losing his principles, hence the "looney bird" and whatever else they throw at him. You may not agree with his every move, but I challenge you to listen to the 41 points he made in his speech and tell me which one(s) are losers...... | ||
| Ulyranger |
One more thing about the filibuster, other than slowing the train wreck do you know why he did it? To force the spineless Rinos to go public with their votes, so they had to be accountable to their constituents. They couldn't sit in the shadows, had to do their deed right out in the open. Something that makes you look bad when your position was different, promises adverse to the way the party machine pushes you. Yeah, that's completely not commendable..... | ||
| Greatlaker |
Ft_Bastard. "We've had the first Kenyan President." That's not funny. That's not factual and in fact, it's blatantly racist. I would expect better from a board moderator. True colours. |
