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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rather than defend against an accusation that hasn't been made, I'll simply ask in what way has Walker or Koch abused the Constitution?
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Campaign finance reform


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpCROl73_cM
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well considering that you specifically brought up Walker and the Constitution, why in the world do you post up a youtube of a left wing "radio broadcast" (does this guy even have a radio show?) where they pretty much do nothing but slander walker with no specifics. They make claims of criminal charges, blah, blah, blah, but there just aren't any coming. To make things worse, the Constitution wasn't even mentioned in that video. I hate to say this, but it's very typical of your responses, and yes, it is trollish.
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"One Bird Two Wings Same Crap"

I did not specifically single him out. I did want to see how he Governed his state.
There are several videos on this subject out there including a documentary on the Koch Brother that mentions it.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"One Bird Two Wings Same Crap"

Too long for a motto, how is it as a chant?

There is a difference, not as much as I would like, but it's there. The likeness is striking and common, power hungry rich guys who want to keep the status quo describes both Party's Leaders.

But the D's have no reform movement, and are anti-civil rights on Constitutional issues, like Free Speech, Religion, and self determination.

The R's have a reform movement, and are much less Soviet in direction. Not as much less as I like, as I said.

Everything I've read that one Koch bro says is smart, Liberal, and pro-freedom of choice. Everything I read from George Soros is smart, ruthless, and pushing for aristocratic rule of the masses.

Your choice.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415341/jeb-b ush-not-gops-ideal-change-candidate-jonah-goldberg

Opinion piece that annoys Jeb fans and haters.
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Polls Thursday, March 12

Republican: Bush 18, Walker 18, Paul 12, Christie 11, Carson 7, Cruz 5, Rubio 4, Huckabee 3, Jindal 2, Perry 2

Democratic: Clinton 53, Warren 15, Biden 8, Sanders 2, O'Malley 1, Webb 1

Clinton 48, Walker 44
Clinton 49, Rubio 42
Clinton 49, Bush 42
Clinton 51, Perry 42
Clinton 51, Paul 40
Clinton 53, Cruz 39
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeb Bush- Look the documentary of Barry Seal "In Search of the American Drug Lords". Jeb and family. Before you get to excited it does have Bill and Hillary in it also.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 05:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buddy loaned me a book all about how G.W. Bush was a tool for the House of Saud...... as were Clinton, his daddy, & everyone back to WW2.

There were a few verifiable facts too, my reaction was "duh". Of course they were.

More importantly, it looks like any Harvard grad is probably a terrible choice for President. Yale, too.

Maybe the best idea is to pick some one who actually worked for a living. Unlike the current guy.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 05:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Campaign finance reform.
One of the great ironies is how McCain-Feingold gave Barry the power to launder so much more money than McCain.

In the U.S. there is very little bribery below the elected official level. They wrote the laws to make it illegal, except for them.

Trying to slip a cop money to get out of a speeding ticket will get you arrested.

Got a failing business? Steal half a million from it and bribe obama.com and you retire rich. Too bad about your employees, the people you owed money to, and the taxpayers.
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Patches
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"They wrote the laws to make it illegal, except for them."

That rule is tyrannical and violate the rights of ALL Americans!

Bring On 1776, It Is Time Again!

I have not had my Coffee yet this morning.
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Patches
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the GOP nothing more than Tyrannical Warmongering Elitist?

Richard Shelby (Ala.)
Jeff Sessions (Ala.)
Dan Sullivan (Alaska)
John McCain (Ariz.)
John Boozman (Ark.)
Tom Cotton (Ark.)
Cory Gardner (Colo.)
Marco Rubio (Fla.)
Johnny Isakson (Ga.)
David Perdue (Ga.)
Mike Crapo (Idaho)
Jim Risch (Idaho)
Mark Kirk (Ill.)
Chuck Grassley (Iowa)
Joni Ernst (Iowa)
Pat Roberts (Kansas)
Jerry Moran (Kansas)
Mitch McConnell (Ky.)
Rand Paul (Ky.)
David Vitter (La.)
Bill Cassidy (La.)
Roger Wicker (Miss.)
Roy Blunt (Mo.)
Steve Daines (Mont.)
Deb Fischer (Neb.)
Ben Sasse (Neb.)
Dean Heller (Nev.)
Kelly Ayotte (N.H.)
Richard Burr (N.C.)
Thom Tillis (N.C.)
John Hoeven (N.D.)
Rob Portman (Ohio)
Jim Inhofe (Okla.)
James Lankford (Okla.)
Pat Toomey (Pa.)
Lindsey Graham (S.C.)
Tim Scott (S.C.)
John Thune (S.D.)
Mike Rounds (S.D.)
John Cornyn (Texas)
Ted Cruz (Texas)
Orin Hatch (Utah)
Mike Lee (Utah)
Shelley Moore Capito (W.V.)
Ron Johnson (Wis.)
Mike Enzi (Wyo.)
John Barrasso (Wyo.)

They make the Government of the USA look like Fools.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/obama-iran-l etter-reaction-116056.html

SENATOR TOM COTTON TO MEET WITH DEFENSE CONTRACTORS

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026347243
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Chauly
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://tinyurl.com/k84h92q
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Reindog
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the GOP nothing more than Tyrannical Warmongering Elitist?
How in the Wide World of Sports can you possibly come to that conclusion? We have a lawless pResident acting un-Constitutionally and the letter is nothing more than a reminder that Congress shall play a role.

Tom Cotton has done a great service to our country.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They make the Government of the USA look like Fools.

Actually they make Obama look like the lying weasel he is. I won't even get into the treason of John Kerry.

Do you get paid for believing stupid stuff and repeating it to others?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They make the Government of the USA look like Fools.

They certainly don't need any help in that regard.







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Sifo
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not sure if Patches is intentional or not in his trolling. He offers virtually nothing of his own material so it's hard to get a real read on what's going on upstairs. The idea of a member of out government talking with defense contractors being a bad thing is kind of obtuse. One of the primary functions of the Federal government is our defense. If nobody talked with defense contractors, there would be a huge dereliction of duty. If you want to get into the details of those talks, and our use of power, there is much to talk about. That requires much more that Patches has ever shown himself to be willing to do though. Perhaps he will post a 45 minute youtube video that skirts the subject in some way?
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let's see, Obama said he supported Democracy in Iran, then when the people protested a fake election, refused to lift a finger while they got shot in the street.

Obama went to war in Libya, without Congressional approval, to overthrow a POS that at least had given up his WMD programs and wanted normal diplomatic relations. Then left behind a horrible mess he's lied about ever since.

Obama encouraged the overthrow of the leader of Egypt, and supported a terrorist regime who committed genocide and practiced gang rape in the street to intimidate his enemies.
( thankfully the Egyptian military kicked the guy out for being a dictator and radical theocrat )

Obama sent weapons to Syria, where almost all fell into the hands of AQ groups, ( the enemy ) to encourage a civil war in an ally of Russia. This is where ISIS got it's start, supplied and encouraged by Barry the Weasel.

Barry threatened war in Europe when his good buddy Vladimir invaded the Ukraine, and Vladimir, btw, still IS invading Ukraine.

And, Some Congressmen sent a letter to a mass murdering terrorist regime in Iran warning the Mullahs that Obama didn't have the legal right to give them what they wanted, which is, of course, lots of money, no sanctions, and nuclear bombs to murder Jews and Infidels.

So While I have agreed that Elitist is true for Both Parties, ( ask me about John Kerry's Yacht ) Warmongering seems to be a solid lock by the Executive these last 6 years.
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Patches
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One side trying to upstage the other only makes the USA look Foolish.

It was only GOP members that signed the letter.

Tom Cotton (author of the letter) had a Meeting with Defense Contractors (that make WMD's) 24 hours after the letter (that was not reviewed by congress) sent to Iran is just a little more than coincidence.

The Anti-Obamacrats are Beating the HELL out of the War Drums. You cannot tell me if they start another War there is NO money to be Made from it.

I do not think anymore of America's Children
should DIE so some Politician can stuff more money in his (or hers) Bank Account.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senat e_Committee_on_Armed_Services

Is Mr. Cotton on a committee? Let's look. Yep. So it's his job to meet with defense contractors.

Is it your job to repeat stupid political propaganda?

I don't want any children killed in wars to make evil men rich either.

How about the current war on western civilization? I don't want children killed in it either, but it's happening as we speak.
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Macbuell
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How in the hell are Congressman going to start a war? Did I miss something where they were given that power?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Um...Congress has the power to declare war.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doh! I missed your sarcasm. Where's that damn sarcasm emote!
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Patches
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does any War start? Conspiracy Theory.
Somebody somewhere has to do something STUPID! There not that Dumb. They would not go through the trouble if No Money was to be made from it.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is NOT the only motivation.

Kings start wars to steal the other king's stuff. Land, mines, ports. Also to avenge older wars.

Dictators start wars to stay in power. Putin wants that plus a restoration of the old Soviet, the second most murderous regime in history. Even has people calling it the New Rome. ( in historical context Hitler called his regime the 3rd Rome)

The current war is one of religion. ISIS wants to rule the planet for their God. Iran ditto.

Your choice is easy, submit, or die. If you submit, you have a choice, convert and be a second class subject or be a slave. Depending on the interpretation you may be allowed to be a 3rd class servant of their God and be taxed for your religion.

Is that clear? You see any alternative? They do not.

Some of us will choose to fight.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How do I get paid to repeat old propaganda? 'Cause I'm ready to retire.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It takes two to tango.

Unfortunately, this is only true for pacifism.
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Reindog
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patches,

OK...you win.

Please comment on:
* the jfk assassination coverup.
* the 9/11 coverup.
* the apollo 11 moon landing hoax.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, me first!!!!

JFK was shot by JFK from the grassy knoll after he was transported back in time by the Crew of the Red Dwarf. They had gone back in time to buy Chutney, but had startled Lee Harvey Oswald when they accidentally appeared in the Book Repository, instead. So he fell out the window after the first shot. This lead to a world wide depression after JFK was impeached for Mafia connections with Marilyn Monroe. Or. Shot by the Comedian on the orders of Nixon. take your pick. Both are way better than Oliver Stone's fantasy.

9/11 was actually a cover for an alien attack, which was hushed up by blaming AQ.

Ironically, it was actually the airliners fires that caused the Twin Towers to fall, but it was alien tractor beams that threw them at the building.

The Apollo Moon Landing was NOT a hoax.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/5833 633/Apollo-11-Moon-landing-conspiracy-theories-deb unked.html

My Favorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"it was actually the airliners fires".

Exactly. Because that chemtrail stuff burns at like 4000 degrees. : )
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