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     Xdigitalx |
Something I thought might happen if this gets worse, the people of certain areas will declare it off-limits to any police, those areas may expand. That might trigger a chain of unwanted events especially if they start to open carry. I remember a bunch of duchebag liberals a few years ago bashing the crap out of Sarah Palin for some targets on her map.... and many many other similar incidents towards the Tea Party and republicans,... no one got shot/killed. I think there is something to said about that isn't there? I mean... they were worried so much about influencing some crazy gun toting Christian republican in some bad way, and dipchit deblaso ends up influencing 1,000's of protesters and 2 leo's are executed. Then I saw some protesters with some anti-NRA and "black lives matter" signs?? WTF? My freakin head is spinning. | ||
| Ducbsa |
To Gruber's target audience, the thousands of black lives taken by other blacks don't matter. | ||
| D_adams |
Couple miles down the road last night. Here we go again. http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/12/24/po lice-shoot-kill-armed-teenager-in-berkeley/2084920 9/ | ||
| Sifo |
5 killed, 13 wounded. Chicago calls that Tuesday. http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/27701149/police- 5-killed-13-wounded-in-tuesday-shootings Let's make a big deal of a cop having to shoot someone breaking the law. | ||
| D_adams |
Sure, but Illinois has some of the toughest gun control laws on the books, so the bad people can't have them, right? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The bigger risk will be "protesters" attempting to disrupt "white areas". How long before innocent people are pulled out of their cars and beaten to death? How long until individuals begin arming themselves in response? How long until the "protesters" escalate in retaliation? My hope is that these folks will get tired and distracted and go back to killing themselves. | ||
| Fb1 |
How long before innocent people are pulled out of their cars and beaten to death? It has already happened; you just haven't heard about it in the "news." How long until individuals begin arming themselves in response? This has certainly already happened, and continues. How long until the "protesters" escalate in retaliation? Good question. I think the powers that be are designing just such a scenario, or, more likely, scenarios. My hope is that these folks will get tired and distracted and go back to killing themselves. If our suspicions as discussed earlier are correct this issue will not simply go away, not with the FedGov and mainstream media fanning the flames and controlling the narrative. The pResident (and the people above him who are actually coordinating all of this) have done a masterful job of "splintering" this country. (This may, in fact, ultimately prove to be the Preezy's greatest legacy.) It feels, looks and smells like a concerted campaign to pit American against American. What we're missing, so far, is a "trigger" event, to provide the legal and moral justification for the pResident (and his handlers) to take over command of EVERYTHING. You know, to save us from us. The ingredients are in place, but the cake isn't quite done. The next two years will be rough. | ||
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| Aesquire |
de Blasio is a perfect example of deliberate Commie racism on display. The leftists ( socialist, national socialist workers party. Communists, Maoists, progressives, and the other cult of personality groups ) have always used racism to use hate to gain power. As has been poorly discussed on the Che thread, the Glorious Hero of The Revolution in his own words was racist even as he used racism to manipulate and exploit the "freedom fighters" that were sponsored by the Soviets & their Cuban minions. We have been assured that as this mass murderer matured he no longer was racist. How could he be, working so hard hand in hand with his Socialist Brothers? I missed the part in his diary where he renounced his former racism, but it has been years since I read it. We do have the former Grand Klegal of the KKK on record renouncing his racism...... although I thank ex President Clinton's very true statement after the Grand Klegal's death defending his leadership in the Klan as necessary for a Democrat to win election. "Modern" leftists only talk about how lazy the servant races are amongst themselves. The Public persona of course is one of utter deceit and revisionist history. No mention of the Democrats being the pro slavery party. ( to the point of succession and Civil War ) The myth is that the leftists Always were Champions Of The Exploitable Minority. Even when they are on record as the racist deniers of equal rights to the exploited. Because, as they often say and continually push, you can't expect "those people" to be contributing adults and citizens. They must be taken care of in the modern plantation. It's just that the crop is no longer cotton. It's votes and excuses. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
FB1, I never said the hope was well founded. In fact, a growing number are tired of shadow boxing and are preparing for the coming scrum. | ||
| Fb1 |
In fact, a growing number are tired of shadow boxing and are preparing for the coming scrum. +1. | ||
| Fb1 |
Just read a few moments ago that NYPD SWAT teams are presently deployed at two NYPD station houses (79th and 81st precincts) in response to street talk of a shootout being planned by certain members of the community. The scrum cometh... | ||
| Tootal |
One of my friends lives in an old white neighborhood in St. Louis. His neighbor across the street had just been burglarized the day before by two black males. He looked out the window and saw six blacks pointing at another neighbors house like they were casing the joint. He ran out with a 12 gauge pump and 3 of them ran off, the other three start screaming at him which he begged them to give him a reason to fertilize his grass with their brains!! I'm thinking he was mildly pissed! The police showed up and after talking things out they figured the 3 that ran away had outstanding warrants on them and the others lived in an apartment complex on the edge of the neighborhood. This all happened the day after the Black Panthers said that they were coming into the white neighborhoods. They should listen to Yamamoto, there's a gun behind every blade of grass! My friends comment was, Bring it on! My main fear is that this escalates into Obummer declaring martial law, just like his so called idol Abraham Lincoln did, right before elections and declaring himself too important to leave office! | ||
| Fb1 |
Source: New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, https://www.nycpba.org/archive/nyp/14/nyp-141222-g oodwin.html | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Tootal, if that incident happened in central Maryland your friend would have been arrested and the criminals would have been given a pass. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Not with a shotgun. Handgun or "assault weapon" maybe...but not a shotgun or other long gun. I've stood in my yard with my neighbors at night during a police manhunt (choppers, patrols, the whole nine yards). Kevin was leaning on his 308 and his wife was doing the same with a 30-06. Cops pulled up, yard floodlights blazing, us standing in a 3 acre field. "You guys see anything?" "No sir". "If you do, call us". "Before or after?". (Big grin) "have a nice night folks". (Message edited by ratbuell on December 24, 2014) | ||
| Tootal |
Now that's funny! My friend did say the police were rather interested in the 12 gauge going back into the house after their arrival but nothing else was said. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Joe, notice I said CENTRAL Maryland. I'm sure out in God's country where you live away from the rabid liberal politicians you can get away with that. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Still the same set of laws...I think home protection with a "non-assault" weapon may be noticed, but not necessarily harrassed. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
You have what, five acres? If I step about ten feet out of my front door I'm out on the street where I have no right to brandish a weapon. As you know, there is no open or concealed carry in Maryland for 99% of the population. It really depends on the state of mind of your local Police force and specifically, the responding officer but when you live in an liberal urban area with urban crime expect to have your rights restricted. Heck, I know people who live in Baltimore City that have been chased off their own front stoop by the Police. Officer Friendly died years ago in Baltimore and surrounding burbs. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Come to Tennessee. We have 2-5 weapons on our person or in our cars at all times. "Brandishing" will get you cold and dead way before the police become involved. | ||
| Reindog |
Big Bird must resign as he is tearing New York City up. De Blasio doth protest too much — and blows his cover By Michael Goodwin December 22, 2014 Emerging from his hidey-hole to give a midday speech yesterday, Mayor Bill de Blasio bore a suitably funereal demeanor. He called for all New Yorkers to embrace and respect the families of the slain police officers, and urged a moratorium on protests until after the officers were laid to rest. His prepared remarks were pedestrian, but appropriate in tone and substance, and well received by a friendly audience. Facing his first real crisis in City Hall, he seemed to be doing his best to hold his own emotions in check and hold the city together. Then he blew it. Late in the day, the mask of conciliation came off. Actually, he ripped it off with a snarl and gave vent to his smoldering anger at what he regards as the real culprit. No, it’s not the protesters who beat and spit on cops and accuse them of being the KKK. It definitely isn’t the mobs chanting for dead cops. Nor is it those who shut down highways, bridges and invade stores to disrupt the holiday season. The real problem, as de Blasio sees it, is the media. I kid you not — he actually shot the messenger. He accused the reporters assembled in front of him of stoking outrage by focusing on “the few” protesters doing “immoral” things. “They are wrong,” he said, his voice rising. “But are you going to keep dividing us? What you manage to do is pull up the few who do not represent the majority.” He called it “unfair,” and insisted most protesters were peaceful but that “you guys enable” the troublemakers. He went on in that vein for several minutes, becoming more forceful and shutting down a persistent reporter by addressing him as “my friend,” a phrase he paired with a death stare. Rather than convince, the tirade revealed. Like looking at an X-ray, we saw the real de Blasio. It wasn’t a pretty sight. His heart remains with the protesters, and in spirit, he is still with them, denouncing the very police force that works for him. His passion for the anti-cop agenda is so deep that he wasn’t capable of following his own advice to take a break from divisiveness for even a single day. The mayor’s intemperate performance was unforgettable, and unforgivable. Any hope that he would own up to the fact that he contributed to the atmosphere that led to Saturday’s bloody explosion was dashed. Most important, it is unlikely that he will be able to lead the city forward or even back to where it was when he took office. He clearly continues to believe that there is something wrong with the NYPD, something fundamental that he is determined to fix, whatever the cost in civic harmony. Polls show most New Yorkers don’t agree with him. Of course, there is room for police improvement and, once he was elected, most would have backed a moderate, deliberate program of reform. Instead, he launched a relentless assault on the greatest force for good Gotham has ever seen, and helped to unleash a fever that leaves no room for nuance or debate. The result is an unsettling polarization that makes everything worse for everybody. For de Blasio to see that stark division, and insist the media is to blame, is tantamount to painting himself as a victim. He’s free to believe that, but he’s in the wrong business, or at least the wrong position. As a councilman or public advocate, he could be the radical pol who marched for the cameras, got arrested and made wild charges against “the man.” Nobody cared or noticed. Better yet, he could have skipped government and become a go-fer for Al Sharpton, maybe rising to deputy organizer. It’s easy to imagine him wielding a bullhorn and a clipboard and leading chants of “No justice, no peace.” Unfortunately, de Blasio opted for another path, thinking that as “the man,” he would be in a position to remake New York. He could stir marginalized blacks, anarchists and rootless young people by invoking Jim Crow segregation and accusing NYPD bosses of being modern-day Bull Connors. None of it is true, but facts don’t matter to him. He’s a believer. Like most radicals with no real-world experience, he assumes the way to fix things is to first smash them into pieces. That’s what he’s doing to New York. http://nypost.com/2014/12/22/de-blasio-blames-medi a-and-exposes-his-heart-lies-with-protesters/ | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
But are you going to keep dividing us? What you manage to do is pull up the few who do not represent the majority.” Freakin' classic. Same guy who said TEA Party folks were ALL racists, who said that his son should be afraid of ALL cops is now blaming the press for unfairly portraying thugs as thugs. I guess roving bands of youths bashing people's heads in with hammers are just harmless fun. | ||
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| Thumper74 |
FT, Ferris, Ratbuell... see the new law signed into place this week in Ohio? NFA items were pretty much a nightmare to get CLEO sign off for, so much that the general consensus was to just do the family trust route. The new law in Ohio reduces CCW class time and make NFA items a mandatory shall issue for the county CLEO if the person applying isn't barred from owning weapons. I agree with the NFA part, as my county sheriff will NOT sign off. I have three friends that are police officers and one is a county sheriff, but they can't get the CLEO signoff! I don't know if the CCW class requirement being lowered is a good thing though... | ||
| Swampy |
"I don't know if the CCW class requirement being lowered is a good thing though.." Knowledge is King | ||
| Ourdee |
CCW education is very important. Forcing people to abandon ignorance prior to admitting them to polite society. Too many people think ccw is for killing people. That does often result when they are used. The legal use of a CCW is to stop the threat. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I have no problem with CCW education - I encourage it. My problem with MD is the fact that it is basically IMPOSSIBLE to get a CCW, regardless of education. Here, you have to take a course (and pay a fee) in order to be allowed to BUY a handgun. Which (other than paying a fee in order to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights) I guess is OK...but forget about being able to carry it. Ever. Long guns are another story - I've purchased non-automatic, low-capacity rifles with zero wait time and zero "schooling". But a handgun? Nope, haven't even tried. Too much hassle in this state, at least at the moment. If things keep going south I may re-evaluate the work-versus-payoff scale though... |
