| Author | Message | ||
     Court |
You were correct. It may be too late but if you can call The White House you can prevent the expenditure of $6,180,000,000.00. http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/11/07/oba ma-asks-gop-congress-for-ebola-funds | ||
| Reindog |
Dang. Obama messed up again. He should have anointed a Flu Czar instead of an Ebola Czar. Or maybe both, to grow the government even more. | ||
| Davegess |
Those funds are desperately needed and are not enough. If congress does not authorize they should be ashamed of themselves (although I think most of them are beyond shame). And yes i understand mortality rates, just all the crap about this horrible epidemic arriving on our shores that never showed up and was never going to show up. If we don't get it fixed in Africa it may well make it here someday so that 6 billion is money well spent. | ||
| Blake |
Where do we get the money Dave? Debt is $18,000,000,000,000 and climbing, roughly $150,000 per household. | ||
| Aesquire |
Look at it this way, Blake, it's only 6 Obamacare websites. And a lot of that is spending that makes sense. Maybe half, which is outstanding. I bet if we just took the money for Common Core, & the "EO" changes in criminal trespassing enforcement and entitlements, we could pay for the whole 8 billion. ( It's going to cost more, of course ) | ||
| Reepicheep |
I think the panic was less about the fact that Ebola existed, we knew that all along. Instead I think it was about what appeared to be a fairly abject failure to follow reasonable common sense controls that everyone understands would be necessary for a disease that is easily transferable and has something like a 50% mortality rate. If you are willing to take the risks and give up the time to go to an Ebola hotzone to volunteer, you are a freaking awesome person. Part of what you give up to do that is a few weeks once you are out of that hotzone when you voluntarily isolate, because the risk is high, the control is simple, and because only an ••••••• gambles with other peoples lives. When the government tells me "this isn't a problem" when I know for a fact it very much could be a problem, I'll "panic". What we need to hear is "this could be a very big problem, and here is what we are doing to prevent it", then I will won't. We have a pretty nasty flu ripping through my small Ohio town right now. At one point, about a third of our middle schoolers were home sick with it. Had that been Ebola, which is about as contagious, a quarter or so of my town would be dead right now, and all regional medical systems would have been overwhelmed. | ||
| Hootowl |
^ That. | ||
| Thumper74 |
Reepi, Is that the stomach flu that's going around Ohio in general? I had it last week. Worst I've ever had. Down for the count for five days. Slept 30 hours straight. Then, it was just gone... | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
ebola will consume us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Aesquire |
I doubt it. My bet is on hemorrhagic smallpox from a Soviet lab. Or the improbable virus from world war Z. Asteroid? Or maybe high fructose corn syrup. | ||
| Sifo |
Real bad flu year. We have some schools shut down right now for "extensive cleaning". I'm not sure how much that will really do to stop the flu from spreading in a school, other than shutting it down for an extra week for the Being so cavalier with Ebola is a bit like playing Russian Roulette. With the gun pointed at your neighbor. Just because the gun didn't go off doesn't mean it was the right decision. What do you say when the gun goes bang? | ||
| Reepicheep |
The one in Lebanon Ohio hits like a truck, starts with some moderate stomach illness, then just makes you feel like you got hit like a truck. It does seem to go away fast also, the younger kids bounce back after a couple days. But while they are sick, they sleep and sleep and sleep... | ||
| Thumper74 |
Sounds like it! I have a couple days of the runs before it got real bad. A day of puking (ribs still hurt), then 30 hours of sleep. Two days of general crap feeling. Then I woke up and was good, other than the rib thing. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
aesquire - making fun ofthe people early on who were scared of this | ||
| Aesquire |
I'm still scared of it. It's freaking Ebola! Glad we don't have a problem yet. It sure was the high rotation news cycle, though. Laugh at the panicking folk all you want. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Im not discounting its destruction...but here in America we're fine. We've got cures if someone were to get it, but we dont live in filth like the places in Africa where it is in abundance etc Im not scared. Need to quit being scared. Obama. Ebola. Whats next? | ||
| Hootowl |
"but we dont live in filth like the places in Africa" Wow. This is not a disease spread by living in poverty. Most of the people getting it are caring for their Ebola stricken loved ones, not from living in "filth". Scientists believe there are host animals acting as reservoirs, which makes the disease difficult to eradicate. And in case you weren't paying attention, those miracle drugs were experimental, and they ran out of them almost immediately. It would have taken months to produce more, according to the folks who made them. Lots of people can catch Ebola and die in that amount of time. Any communicable disease with a mortality rate of over 80% scares the shit out of me. Not sure why you think you're immune. | ||
| Ratbuell |
"We've got cures" Really? Where are they? Who's got them? How do we get some? Oh, wait. Hoot is right...the miniscule quantities we had on hand were depleted. To cure what...THREE people? Yeah. We've got cures. | ||
| Hootowl |
I don't know, I think developing a vaccine for Ebola might be worth six billion dollars. Money well spent, compared to some of the other crap the government pisses away tax dollars on. | ||
| Sifo |
The "cures" that we had, being experimental wouldn't have been available to the general public anyway, assuming we had any quantities. As for a vaccine, the African countries are so paranoid of their own governments, and even more so of ours, that they tend to not trust anything that is offered in the way of vaccines. Or even pest and drought resistant crops. Their children die of measles and other preventable diseases simply because they fear the vaccines available. | ||
| Hootowl |
"simply because they fear the vaccines available" I wonder where they could have gotten the idea that vaccines are dangerous? Not to sound selfish, but I want the vaccine for me and mine and others in my herd (look up vaccine effectiveness for clarification there). If folks in Africa aren't interested, I guess that's on them. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I was surprised this morning. I went to the local hospital to have some blood drawn for cholesterol testing prior to a routine doctor visit. The admissions lady asked me about 20 Ebola-related questions- "Have you been to Africa recently? Do you know anyone that's been to Africa recently? Do you have any of these symptoms...?" The questions took longer than the actual blood-drawing. I'm glad they're keeping their eyes open. | ||
| Sifo |
Not to sound selfish, but I want the vaccine for me and mine and others in my herd (look up vaccine effectiveness for clarification there). If folks in Africa aren't interested, I guess that's on them. The problem with Ebola is that we don't live where the host animals live, so we won't see the vaccine. When an outbreak finally happens here, it will be too late. Universal vaccination where the host animals live is the way to protect the world from Ebola. Quite different from most diseases that we are familiar with in that respect. | ||
| Aesquire |
Multiple viruses, and there are no vaccines. The attitude problem is partly the fact that the governments are corrupt. Partly propaganda from anti vaccine & food breeding groups. More important than an Ebola vaccine, which is very important, is one for the new "polio" that has spread across the U.S. with the Obamagration scam shipping thousands of sick children across America. So far that is killing our children. Now. And leaving dozens paralyzed. Now. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Rat - so you state that three were cured...yet youre questioning what "cure" im talking about? And yes, the places where ebola was/is rampant in Africa: did you see the news footage? Does it look like your hometown? Be honest, it doesnt. This didn't happen in Cape Town or somewhere with running water and sanitation. But yall keep being scared. Just make sure to check under the bed tonight for the boogey man too (obama?) | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
the government wouldn't deceive us, would they? http://www.breitbart.com/video/2014/12/21/attkisso n-cdc-hiding-numbers-of-possible-ebola-cases-in-us / | ||
| Hootowl |
"Does it look like your hometown? Be honest, it doesnt. This didn't happen in Cape Town or somewhere with running water and sanitation." I'll say it again, because you apparently missed it the first time: This is not a disease spread by living in poverty. Most of the people getting it are caring for their Ebola stricken loved ones, not from living in "filth". Scientists believe there are host animals acting as reservoirs, which makes the disease difficult to eradicate. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Hybrid - not at all. I'm questioning who's "got it"? The entire stock of the experimental vaccine has been depleted. There was so much...curing three people used it all up. So I ask again...where's the cure? Last I checked, we had more than three people in the USA. It doesn't do a lick of good knowing *what* cures it, if the magic juice can't be made, distributed, and prescribed when needed. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
has it been needed? Are you sure there isnt more of it ready? I mean, have you asked around and they said "sorry pal, we're all out..." ?? How much have you researched the availability of the cure? Sure, maybe they only had three doses at the time, but you think they just quit after that? | ||
| Sifo |
Hybrid, think about what you are saying for a moment. We have a cure, but are keeping for ourselves, screw those people in their crappy African slum cities. Is that really how you assess this situation? |
