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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2014 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4674/geert-wilde rs-speech

Close every Salafist mosque which receives even a penny from the Gulf countries. Deprive all jihadists of their passports, even if they only have a Dutch passport. Let them take an ISIS passport.

Do not prevent jihadists from leaving our country. Let them leave, with as many friends as possible. If it helps, I am even prepared to go to Schiphol [airport] to wave them goodbye. But let them never come back. That is the condition. Good riddance.

And, as far as I am concerned, anyone who expresses support for terror as a means to overthrow our constitutional democracy has to leave the country at once. If you are waving an ISIS flag you are waving an exit ticket. Leave! Get out of our country!

Madam Speaker, war has been declared against us. We have to strike back hard. Away with these people! Enough is enough!


Keep in mind this annoying Dutch politician has been prosecuted for telling the truth.

He's received death threats and needs an armed guard to keep him alive.

Just as other politicians who have insisted on telling the truth, including artists who have, in fact, been murdered on the streets.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2014 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting. Another country decides to wall off the terrorists.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/27/egypt-cons iders-gaza-wall-to-block-hamas-terror-attacks/
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is true Islam, according to the teachings of the prophet, and the law.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/30/world/meast/isis-fem ale-slaves/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is disgusting.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/30/living/bill-maher-co mmencement-speaker/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

Bill has been bad mouthing religion, Christians specifically, for years, but now that he's turned his wrath towards Islam, he's suddenly a pariah at UC Berkeley. Call me completely unsurprised.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/mad-intelligenc e

Public thinkers such as politicians and members of the media who comment on them are the first generation of our society to have been badly schooled without being aware of the fact. I do not deny that many of them may be intelligent but their mental acuity was disserved in the post-World War II generation by an ignorance of history.

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Public thinkers have been usurped by practical atheists who are politely styled “secularists.” Essentially, the secularist is not without religion: rather, he has made a religion of politics and wealth, and rejects any religion that worships anything else. Now, to be secular is unavoidable for anyone who resides on this planet, except for astronauts and even they have to come back down to earth. But secularism distorts secularity, just as racism makes a cult of race. The secularist makes a religion of irreligion, and is different from the saints who are “in this world but not of it” because the secularist is of the world but not rationally in it. This explains why the secularist’s solutions to the world’s ills are so destructive. The secularist is isolated from what is unworldly and thus lacks the perspective that adequately measures things of this world. In contrast, Saint Paul was a most worldly wise man and, not least of all because he knew of a “third heaven” where a man, possibly himself, “heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter” (2 Cor. 12:4).


Some of the article may be a bit obscure, it was in spots to me. Decian persecutions? I had to look that up. But the underlying reasoning seems pretty sound. As are the observations.

Secularists play down Islamist atrocities because they seek to eradicate the graceful moral structure that can turn brutes into saints. Heinous acts are sometimes dismissed as “workplace violence.” There even are those in high places who pretend that Islamic militants are not Islamic and foster the delusion that false gods will not demand sacrifices on their altars. These elites are like Ambassador Davies who said, “Communism holds no serious threat to the United States.” Naïve religious leaders who live off the goodwill of good people, will even say that Christians and those who oppose them share a common humane ethos, a similar concept of human rights, an embrace of pluralism, and a distinction between political and spiritual realms. Secularists who imagine good and evil as abstractions, do not consider the possibility that hatred of the holy will take its toll in reality. By ignoring the carnage committed by the twentieth century’s atheistic systems, they fit the definition of madness as the repetition of the same mistake in the expectation of a different result.

That mad kind of intelligence is offended by the precocious audacity of Winston Churchill writing in The River War at the age of twenty-five: “were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it [Islam] has vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.” For the secularist whose religious crusade against religion does not understand the world or its history, prophecy is the only heresy, and his single defense against false prophets is feigned detachment. Indifference is the fanaticism of the faint of heart. By not taking spiritual combat seriously, and by seeking an impossible compromise with the opposite of what is good, human wars cannot be avoided. There are different kinds of war, and only prudence tempers both pugnacity and pacifism. James Russell Lowell opposed the Mexican War and approved the Civil War, but with a sane intelligence: “Compromise makes a good umbrella, but a poor roof; it is temporary expedient, often wise in party politics, almost sure to be unwise in statesmanship.”

If some unruly Presbyterians had flown airplanes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, secularist observers would have eagerly been searching Calvin’s “Institutes” to find the roots of such misanthropy. Instead, in our present circumstance, confronting the abuse of truth and reason by the enemy of their enemy, secularists would rather sink into denial, like Ambassador Davies telling his wife, Marjorie Merriweather Post, that the gunshots coming from the Lubyanka Prison were just the sound of street repairmen.


I may be biased as the author points out the evil in the same man-made religions/social movements that I do.

Of course I also consider rape and cruelty to be evil. Old fashioned of me, I suppose.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, I've always wanted to have a chat with Bill Maher, to ask where he's gone in his observations of spirituality, and I'm encouraged he's not an idiot complete for actually noticing when a culture actually sucks worse than his own conformity.

Reading that it sounds like damning faint praise... close enough.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least he's consistent. Unlike the folks noted in your link above.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The brainwashing continues.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/30/marine-dad-up set-with-assignment-on-islam-banned-from-daughters -high-school/?intcmp=obinsite

"With kindness, tolerance, and respect"

The teacher should be fired.
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Torquehd
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why does that not surprise me? An attempt to rewrite history. Just like the resident's claims that "islam has always been a part of America's history".

If you can't find it in the history books, there's probably a reason. Or if you're on the "wrong side of history", just rewrite the damned history book so that it supports your views.

From Wiki

"The date of the first Muslim visit to the Americas, or to what is now North America, is unknown. Some historians have written theories that the first Muslims landed in, or visited the territory long before Christopher Columbus in 1492."

Well if we're going to just postulate wild theories with no factual basis or probability, I'll start making my own history for the world. I'll write a wiki article about vikings settling the moon in the 1300s, because I think that would make for a good story.

Back to the article, the existence or presence of something does not make it beneficial to mankind. History actually paints a very different picture.

Those darned facts, they always get in the way of a good story.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We don't talk about the Viking moon colony.
change the subject. Or else.
And it was 1367.
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Torquehd
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 05:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought that was a completely original idea.... looks like someone already beat me to the punch. Dang.

A quote from the source of all truth (the interwebs):

"A new recent study finds that the Vikings had advanced technology they kept a secret even from places they settled, this secret technology allowed them to land on the moon for the 1st time ever in A.D. 846. The Vikings also landed on Mars as well which happened in A.D. 851
The Vikings built a colony on Mars which lasted until 1148 when Dinosaurs living on Mars ate the whole Viking colony."

You can't disprove this.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You've done it now!
Lutefisk!
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Humor aside, ( Viking moon Colony! Brilliant! I'm sure the tech involved lodestones ) The War against Europe still smolders on.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/391281/putin -loses-ukraines-election-editors

.....Much can go wrong for Ukraine in the next decade, but not enough to transform the country into a victory for Putin. This time last year Putin controlled the whole of Ukraine through Yanukovych. Today he controls Crimea and three conflict-wracked provinces dependent upon Russian military support. His Eurasian Economic Union is faltering, and without Ukraine it is no match for other economic blocs. He has given a modest boost to NATO and now has its troops on Russia’s Baltic borders. Sanctions on Russia are weakening its economy and the interests of his kleptocratic supporters at a time when a falling oil price is independently threatening the revenue he needs to balance Russia’s budget. And the world knows that 3,700 people have died in eastern Ukraine, including the passengers of a commercial airliner, largely as a result of his policy.

His next move is obvious: double the budget of RT — the state-funded satellite and TV channel formerly known as Russia Today — and the rest of his impressive propaganda apparatus.
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



I need to do more research on this... if this information is correct (and it seems to be)... it would be no surprise.

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Torquehd
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2014 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Largely addressing Islam, Israel, and events of recent history:

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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2014 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AHH Guys you For get Asgard My Viking forebears are every where! YOU UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF LUTEFISK !

Wonder weapon Food Chemical Weapon Armour
Hull patch!
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Hull patch!"

I'm calling you on that one. It's far too inflexible to make a good patch.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After its cooked its kinda tar like lol
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Torquehd
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://dttj.blogspot.kr/2010/08/saudi-arabias-fund ing-of-american.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Saudi Royal Family has long had the deal with the Wahabist "church" that they fund the proselytize effort overseas and the church supports the Royalty and discourages revolution.

Many, if not most of the young men in Arabia are paid by the government. Using the oil money for high end welfare payments has resulted in what you'd expect, zero reason to take a low paying job....no entry level experience so no reason to ever work, unless your parents are wealthy enough to send you to university, often overseas.

To keep control with millions of bored young men the secret police are many and crack down hard on rebellion. The Royal allow the Wahabist their morals police who make non conformity very dangerous.

Last headline I read had them whipping owners of dogs. An unclean animal.

To keep the church happy the Royalty has essentially sold their souls to Satan. Intolerance in the extreme, a revolution in the wings, harsh punishment, and the very scary possibility that U.S. politics could change and make energy cheap and the Royal Families would be dog meat.

There's a reason the Saudi King has a great relationship with U.S. State dept.
Bribes? Correct.

Barry bows to the Saudi King. Who do you think paid for Harvard?
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Saudi's don't even have the ability to get their oil out of the ground. They don't have the knowledge to even train their people how to do it. At least that's what I've been told by a once VP of UOP (United Oil Products). I would think he would know, given that he was literally the guy they turned to to get the oil.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lots of truth there. We're JV'd with a state owned company in Saudi. The only people who know what they're doing over there are imported workers from US, India, Thailand, etc. If the expats left, the whole operation would collapse.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.jpost.com/Not-Just-News/Own-a-dog-in-Ir an-That-will-be-74-lashes-381033

Such news will sadly do far more to galvanize Americans against the islamist fascists than any of their islamist/terrorist plus nuke ambitions.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vermin that hurt dogs should be shot on sight and if they survive shoot them again!
Had a Hoa weasel try to grab my coon hound
he was bent over I kicked him Well he will never piss with out help again SOB was inside my pool enclosure dragging her by the collar. Leos show up and tell him well he could of just shot you! go home and count your blessings
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 04:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My first trip to Afghanistan, one of the biggest culture-shock factors was the way they treat their animals. Absolute inhumanity.

The state of affairs with Saudi Arabia is yet another thing I'd never heard about, until I started digging on my own, after hearing others hint about it. I wonder why that is. No I don't.

I spoke with a contractor in Dubai, he said the situation with the locals vs expats is the exact same. "we" have been trying to hand over operational control of oil and money to them for years, and they just keep screwing it up, so we have to go back in and fix it for them, time and again.

Why has there always been so much push to integrate Islam and the Judeo-Christian world? Why has there been so much push for us to build them up and allow them to succeed against us?

We should find it strange, how the people of this "constitutional republic" are not in control. Like there's an outside influence. Perhaps one of prophetic proportions.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the correction. Iran not Saudi Arabia was the dog owner whipping land of peace.

I'm as culturally insensitive as they come. ( he bragged ) All cultures are not equal. All piety is not good. All solutions do not work.

None are perfect.

I insist on religious freedom. That means others will insult your faith. If you defend it on it's merits I defend your right to do so. If you defend it by slaughtering infidels we are not going to get along.

Intolerant faiths that can have no other have been the #1 cause of mass death in this planet's history. ... short of super volcanoes and asteroid strikes.

In the 20th century the most murderous faith has supported Islamism as a proxy weapon against the rest of the planet, based on the principle that when civilization falls, no one will be able to defend Islam from annihilation.

Put in simplest terms. When the terrorists destroy the west the Soviet Holy Empire will just nuke the middle east, and send the rest of the faithful to death camps.

It's the socialist way.
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Torquehd
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 04:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I knew it would happen. Here ya go:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/11/16/turkey-erd ogan-muslims-discovered-americas-3-centuries-befor e-christopher/?intcmp=latestnews

"It is alleged that the American continent was discovered by Columbus in 1492," Erdogan said. "In fact, Muslim sailors reached the American continent 314 years before Columbus, in 1178."

I wonder how long that will take to find its way into common core. Next they'll be telling us that George Washington introduced Ramadan to the colonial army and had chai-boys.

In more factual news, archaeologists in Lapland have found what they believe to be the first viking launch pad, with a partially completed space ship, made of dragon bones and moonstone. According to runestones found nearby, the moonstones contained light energy harvested from Bifrost, allowing extraplanetary travel.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe they did. Show me some proof. Columbus brough back proof. The Vikings DID 'find' the Americas, but they didn't rush home and tell anybody. They just set up a few villages, the ruins of which are still being unearthed. The ancestors of modern Indians (India Indians) migrated to the Americas on foot, and yet we do not consider that they discovered it, though clearly they did. But they didn't go home and tell anyone about it. Like modern discoveries, the first one to publish gets bragging rights : )
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is also evidence, if I am following the narrative correctly, that there was some fairly massive copper mining in the Upper Peninsula in Michigan by not just Native Americans, but also possibly by Europeans, and that it may have contributed to making the bronze age possible.

It was navigable by water, and you could basically go up there and find 1 to 1000 pounds nuggets of pure copper pretty much just sitting on the surface.
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Torquehd
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know. That europeans came here, explored for what must have been decades, found copper, imported and/or employed thousands of laborers, coordinated trans for enough copper to significantly impact/enable the European bronze age, then returned to the old world and left no trace except for tools of unknown origin... all that happened, with no record, no oral history, no folk tales or legends... I just don't know about that.

From what we've seen in the US, mining camps usually become permanent fixtures, as the workers bring a need for civilization. People get rooted, society grows from there.
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