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Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 03:24 am: |
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Dallas Ebola case #2 Nurse in Dallas fighting Ebola... http://news.yahoo.com/doctor-gives-blood-ebola-inf ected-dallas-nurse-050231595.html |
Crusty
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 08:08 am: |
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I guess this would be a good time to re-read Stephen King's The Stand |
Oldog
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 11:40 am: |
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>> Dallas Ebola case #2 Nurse in Dallas fighting Ebola... << Sadly the innocent will suffer and the decision makers will not.... |
Aesquire
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 12:53 pm: |
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NY Senator Schumer, who does a great job getting money but is an enemy of civil rights blamed the nurse. Don't remember him being a medical expert except his vote on obamacare. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 12:57 pm: |
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He looks down his nose through his glasses. Doesn't that make him a doctor? Interesting fact: In high school, he was voted most likely to give a press conference. |
Macbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 01:27 pm: |
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It was probably the nurse's fault but from what I read, the process of taking the protective gear off and not touching anything that might have been contaminated is very difficult. There have been a number of experienced doctors and nurses who have been fighting this in Africa that have gotten sick too. |
Macbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 01:29 pm: |
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So how surprised should we be that a nurse in Dallas that is not experienced with this kind of infectious disease gets sick? And I really don't think this would be different in most hospitals around the country except for ones that specialize in these kinds of diseases and this kind of care. |
Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 01:47 pm: |
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So how surprised should we be that a nurse in Dallas that is not experienced with this kind of infectious disease gets sick? Exactly. That's why this matters... http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/do-mat h.html If we only have 24 beds across 4 hospitals in the US that can handle a disease like this properly, we have a real problem as soon as we have a minor outbreak. Having said that, I really hope this is contained right now. It looks like it may be. It seems reasonable that it will eventually find it's way into our population though. When that happens, it may get scary. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 02:17 pm: |
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Just jumping in the middle of this one, so maybe this has been discussed prior, but my question is how in the world does the nurse get Ebola if she was suited up while treating the now deceased man? The few articles that I have read had said is not an airborne disease. http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/ Also, there was report of a sheriff deputy who might have been infected after serving papers at the dead man's home. Why would he be in jeopardy if this isn't an airborne disease? Either there is alot more fluids being shared than I care to think about or this disease is getting spread differently than fluid-only transmission. |
Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 02:35 pm: |
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The nurse could have been infected by simply not paying attention when taking off the protective gear. Or it could have been as simple as wiping her face with an infected glove, something most of us do dozens of times per day without any thought. I think the sheriff may have been a case of just being overly cautious with what would have been an extremely unlikely transmission of the virus. Given the severity of this disease, I would agree with being overly cautious. I'm not sure that this gets carried through in other areas though, such as controlling people crossing our borders, both legal and illegal. |
Court
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 02:39 pm: |
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When a "community organizer" . . with a sealed transcript . . tells you "if can't possibly reach our shores". . . . ask more questions.
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Etennuly
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 03:06 pm: |
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Money will be the best carrier. Who doesn't want some cash? Your local care giver that does not know they are carrying the disease, goes to lunch, passing off a ten dollar bill. It is given back to the next customer for change. The food worker has the so carefully worn gloves on that exchange, just infected all of the money in the ten dollar compartment of the register. Next customer gets a ten. Visa Cards go through the same pair of gloves. A days full of customers at risk, then the money spreads to other businesses, other places, distant visitors go home with their change, they stop along the way spending more money. So you see how money can become the root of evil. You probably ought to send all of your money to me to be safe, I will hold it in your name until it is properly disinfected. I'll send back what I can.....after expenses and taxes of course. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 03:30 pm: |
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quote:The nurse could have been infected by simply not paying attention when taking off the protective gear. Or it could have been as simple as wiping her face with an infected glove, something most of us do dozens of times per day without any thought.
No reports on what she thinks may have caused the infection? |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 05:10 pm: |
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I found this: "Frieden has said a breach of protocol led to the nurse's infection, but officials are not sure what went wrong. Pham has not been able to point to any specific breach. Among the things the CDC will investigate is how the workers took off protective gear, because removing it incorrectly can lead to contamination. Investigators will also look at dialysis and intubation — the insertion of a breathing tube in a patient's airway. Both procedures have the potential to spread the virus." |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 05:25 pm: |
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How about decon showers before removing protective garments? Is that SOP? It was for every NBC drill I've ever taken part in. A little bleach goes a long way. |
Oldog
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 05:27 pm: |
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Well a story just popped up that says that the Nurse's Boyfriend is infected. The innocent suffer because of the actions of those who are to face no consequence. |
Court
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 06:35 pm: |
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Poor time to not have a Surgeon General, eh? Shame that the youngster foisted up for the position by the administration has, as his greatest resume' qualification, head of Physicians for Obama. Not even Harry Reid can scrape together enough Democrats to stop laughing at this and vote for the guy.
quote:EDITORIAL: A nominee for the cartoons Another radical Obama nominee seems likely to bite the dust By - - Wednesday, March 19, 2014 In Harry Reid’s Senate, it’s difficult for one of President Obama’s appointments to be too radical to win confirmation. But such might be the fate of Dr. Vivek Murthy, whose prognosis for confirmation as surgeon general is grim. So far, Mr. Reid can’t muster 50 commitments for a favorable vote in a body controlled by 55 Democrats. Eight Democrats could join Republicans in opposing the nomination, according to the McClatchy-Tribune News Service. When the political autopsy is performed, it’s likely to show that several of the Democratic senators who voted against Debo Adegbile, the president’s radical nominee to head the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, had the same problem with Dr. Murthy. He’s more political activist than physician Dr. Murthy founded Doctors for Obama, which in a logical world would be disqualification enough, considering what the president has done to health care. Yet Dr. Murthy has done much more to disqualify himself, tweeting before the 2012 election that “guns are a health care issue” and insisting that doctors counsel patients against owning a gun. That’s particularly worrisome because that would be entered into a patient’s private electronic medical records, available to the government under Obamacare. The surgeon general is meant to be a doctor, not a politician, and he’s certainly not supposed to use the position to divert research money into junk science that radicals can cite as a way to infringe the Second Amendment. The prospect of a vote for such a nominee keeps endangered red-state Democrats up at night. It’s not a surprise when one Senate aide says, “We don’t expect a vote to happen.” It’s not yet clear whether President Obama will stand by his man or withdraw the nomination, but this patient is not likely to recover. London’s Daily Mail reveals that Dr. Murthy has had an obsession with guns since he was a boy watching Saturday-morning cartoons. Instead of being entertained, he was appalled. When he was the 16-year-old valedictorian of his Florida high school class, he took the cartoon characters to task for “the growing problem” of kids and violence. “Today,” the teenage Vivek Murthy said, “a typical elementary student wakes up on Saturday mornings to fiery gun battles, explosive scenes of terror and the violent decimation of the ‘bad guy’ … . With such destructive influence, society’s preoccupation with firearms and brutal methods of conflict resolution is no surprise.” Now 36, Dr. Murthy still hasn’t grown out of his adolescent passion. Endangered red-state Democrats like Mark Pryor of Arkansas or John Walsh of Montana are determined not to take the blame for this appointment. They want the blame put where it belongs, on villains like Yosemite Sam, Elmer Fudd and Wile E. Coyote. Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/19/ed itorial-a-nominee-for-the-cartoons/#ixzz3GA3ooWmD
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Alfau
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 07:24 pm: |
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When the going gets tough the tough get going. Educate yourself instead of whining and blaming everyone but the real cause. Outbreak control requires a coordinated series of medical services, along with a certain level of community engagement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease |
Xdigitalx
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 08:08 pm: |
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What about that reporter Snyderman? After 3 or so days of being under quarantine, she and 2 of her crew go get some takeout? WTF is up with that?!?! OH she has no symptoms...it's ok... she is a doctor(?)... so... what happens when she gets it on the 21th day??? And little trip ends up giving it to some other innocent folks on the street or at that restaurant? Well... I hope not but if it happens, it should not fall by the wayside. Would it be Manslaughter? |
Garryb
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 08:24 pm: |
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http://christwire.org/2014/08/obama-is-infecting-c hristians-with-ebola-to-destroy-jesus-and-start-a- new-age-of-liberal-darkness/ |
Court
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 10:20 pm: |
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Garry. . nice try . . but Obama couldn't plan and pull anything off without screwing it up . . . .I'm enjoying listening to his staff dodge today . . . . first time anyone in The White House has refused to release how much they spent on campaign travel . . which of course is illegal under The Hatch Act . . . so he's going on "official" trips to all these , 4 in one day last week, $35,000 a plate fund raisers. I am enjoying watching him hate billionaires in their own houses while they, and their friends, listen to him grovel to finance his chicanery. |
Alfau
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 11:05 pm: |
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Tell your Billionaires and their friends to donate to disease control foundation lest they die of ebola. } |
Court
| Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 06:52 am: |
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Suppose that's what he's telling all his billionaire friends at these various partys? Could be . . . 2 of them have come through in the past week. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/zuckerber g-wife-donate-25m-cdc-ebola-26182641 |
Oldog
| Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 08:19 am: |
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When the going gets tough the tough get going. Educate yourself instead of whining and blaming everyone but the real cause. Outbreak control requires a coordinated series of medical services, along with a certain level of community engagement. On the surface this may sound hard nosed but I think that Alf nailed this.... } |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 12:55 pm: |
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Dallas Ebola case #3 (nurse #2): http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/ap_ab3cd5a9b3 2c450aa5a13e1a4a14c60e One very positive note is that the family of Thomas Eric Duncan (Dallas Ebola case #1), have yet to show signs of infection, or so we are led to believe. Anyone seen any recent reporting on them? |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 12:57 pm: |
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AlfAu, Please tell, what is "the real cause" of the Ebola outbreak in America? |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 01:28 pm: |
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http://www.partycrashertshirts.com/Ebola-anti-obam a-t-shirt |
Macbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 02:27 pm: |
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And she flew on a commercial plane the night before testing positive with a 99.5 degree temperate. Maybe not technically a fever but not normal either. And even the CDC is saying she should have not traveled anywhere but especially not on a packed commercial airline. This is really starting to get scary. |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 02:48 pm: |
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She has a wedding coming up! Stop being so hard on her. Weddings take planning! |
Ferris_von_bueller
| Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 03:41 pm: |
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Both the U.S. Army and the old Soviet Union have spent decades studying and or weaponizing various biological agents including Ebola and Marburg. I find it hard to believe there isn't a vaccine or a cure in some vault. Another observation. On one hand, they keep telling us Ebola is hard to catch yet we see healthcare providers becoming sick. They say hospitals aren't equipped to handle Ebola patients safely but hospitals routinely handle other infectious diseases with the same routes of transmission -Hepatitis, HIV and we don't see doctors becoming infected by those diseases. |
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