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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

riots are over, they were the thugs.

Not just about Brown. the protesting was about brown but is shifting.... didn't start that way but it is that way now. Other news channels ..... They want to bring this to light... a lot of folks want to ignore it.

I watched msnbc,.. goofball got rocks thrown at him... lol... but he also interviewed a few folk that want to move on but not without fixing some problems in community. I also watched cnn last night and saw that Montel Williams wants to move on too, I guess they wanted him on tv because he was black but didn't expect him to want to move on and start uniting every race ... because he think we should be focusing on the genocide from ISIL and HAMAS etc etc,. I bet you don't see him interviewed again on cnn or msnbc anytime soon.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shame there wasn't any video of the Brown incident. Who didn't authorize the video cams for the Ferguson PD???
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Court
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What . . . hypothetically speaking . . . .do you think would be a fitting punishment for someone who randomly drove past a group of kids, just sitting on a curb, and shot 7 of them with a 12g a shotgun?
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depends...Were they zombie kids or normal kids?

Death penalty. Take your pick on the method. Definitely not life in prison.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If Robin Williams decided to commit suicide the same way as Kajieme Powell, I think there would have been a different outcome.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Were they zombie kids or normal kids?

7 kids . . . all athletes, good students, sitting on a curb in a good neighborhood after a Sunday evening church group gathering.

What would be a fitting sentence for the 2 fellows ( a driver and a shooter) who drove past and unloaded a 12g a shotgun?

Help me out here.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My vote is firing squad. But...if driver and/or shooter are minors, that throws a wrench into the works because they're "too young to understand".

Life in prison is a waste of food, money, and resources. Sit 'em on a curb in front of a firing squad. Then, publicize the execution video to make the "next" kids think twice before they go out on a rampage.
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Reducati
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

john wayne gacy was convicted in 1980 of killing 33 boys...bodies found in his basement..it took 14 years for the appeals process before this vile sub human was executed....14 years....
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Court
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>My vote is firing squad. But...if driver and/or shooter are minors, that throws a wrench into the works because they're "too young to understand".

Let's assume they were minors . . . the driver had a clean record and the shooter had been involved in 19 prior "contacts" with law enforcement, starting at age 12 and including putting a .308 round through the "A-pillar" of a PD cruiser from an I-70 overpass.

How say ye now ?

What . . . even a range . . . . would be a fitting sentence?
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Court
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xdigitalx . . . . any opinions?

I'm really interested in your thoughts?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sadly, at least in Illinois (Don't know about other states), jail time for murder is less than 14 years.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Driver: 8-10 years at a prison with good rehab record for kids like him.
Shooter: take him up in plane or helicopter and drop him from 15,000 ft, or about 30 seconds flight time, long enough to pray and/or ask forgiveness before he meets his maker.

A. Over ocean (would have to add weights to sink him assure he would be fishfood and not float up on some beach somewhere)
B. Over private parking lot where the witnesses in bleachers would get raincoats for the splatter at no cost. Could also PPV.

Over ocean: he could be placed into some type of heavy waterproof container, with enough oxygen to last 5 min... and just pushed over the edge of a boat. a couple miles out at sea... either the pressure or lack of o2 will do the deed. But no one would actually see him die. So I guess that is out.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand. I have never been in that situation. I just would have rather seen the knife wielder subdued somehow instead of being killed. (even though that's probably what he wanted) I know pepper spray and Tasers don't always do the job. Maybe a flash bang and a dog catchers pole could have done it.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, I muddied the water with the two different shootings.

The video Damnnut posted, the St. Louis shooting that happened after the ferguson shooting, was the one I was talking about.

The cops probably had to start shooting, but I wasn't entirely comfortable about the length of time they kept pumping rounds into the crumpled heap laying on the sidewalk. At that point they had every tactical advantage.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you imagine the reaction of the race baiters to a video of a man captured by dog catcher's pole!?!
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not sure if friends and family of the deceased would agree. I (me) would look at the use "something like" a dog catchers pole for situations where any slight mental problem existed ... not unlike throwing a straight jacket over him. The people should really have an input, I mean, they are paying for it with taxes. They should try and confer with that community ... how should they react next time? and throw all the what if's out there too. That would at least educate the people (and the cops) about what they have to deal with. Right now... seems like no one really gives a rats ass either way. Especially those on the outside looking in.

I think we should all follow Montel's lead.
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2 014/08/23/cnn-tonight-montel-williams-isil-ferguso n.cnn.html
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Republicans need to jump on it quick before the Dems open up local offices on every corner.
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Reindog
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Real Villain of Ferguson
by Roger L Simon,August 18th, 2014

Read the article to find out.

Here is a clue: "Stop Helping us!"


http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2014/08/18/the-real -villain-of-ferguson/
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://news.yahoo.com/man-charged-texas-police-ch iefs-slaying-174730212.html

Box of cigars? How about Graffiti? Heck of a reason to die, heck of a reason to be executed.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/23/fergu son-officer-relieved-duty-video-racist-remarks

This guy needs a break from rioting looting savages and evil preachers calling for his blood. Glad he's got one before he did something really stupid(er).

On a political note, it SEEMS the right wing nuts get press for bitching about things, the left wing nuts shoot themselves after murdering as many as their incompetence allows.

I could be biased.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is why police show up with SWAT teams to arrest low level offenders. They can put a bullet in you just as easily as the drug king pin.

Until that changes, the militarization of the police will continue.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Being ready is one thing.

Wearing masks and carrying machine guns while breaking into homes is another. especially since the "style" in the paramilitary gear has "police" on the BACK of the armor, not the front.

There will be incidents, and they are NOT necessary.
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court in answer to your question about the drive by,

hanging

firing squad

electric chair

to be publicized

some of these "kids" are short of understanding..
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Wearing masks and carrying machine guns while breaking into homes is another. especially since the "style" in the paramilitary gear has "police" on the BACK of the armor, not the front.

There will be incidents, and they are NOT necessary."

Oh, I agree. But they will use low level offenders killing cops as justification for no knock warrants in the middle of the night for a greater and greater number of arrests.

And, if I'm being honest, if I were a cop, I'd want to have every advantage, and ensure that the suspect had none. You can draw a line between that and where the police are today in terms of militarization.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man Who Shot at Cops During No-Knock Raid Acquitted on All Charges

If they break down my front or back door in the middle of the night, I will be armed and ready to shoot by the time they enter the hallway upstairs. Expect to be shot as an intruder.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ummmm...

Shouldn't there be white people rioting over THIS?

I, for one, realize and fully believe that it's an isolated incident.

What say you?

In a press release, an officer said it wasn't a hate crime.

(Message edited by pwnzor on August 25, 2014)
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In some respects I can understand that the bad behavior (riots, looting) that we saw in Ferguson is a result of poverty. Given that, you won't see the white folk rioting. They have to work! If those people in Ferguson had to work, they wouldn't have so much time to riot and loot.

Now how do you get them working?





I think you might start by not paying them to not work.
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Torquehd
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shouldn't there be white people rioting over THIS?

Why would there be rioting over that, if there was not even mainstream news coverage of the 13 year old white boy who was set on fire by a group of black kids, just for being white, just 5 days after the trayvon martin incident?

How is it that people like Al Sharpton are not labeled as racist? I've never heard about him championing anyone but black people, with what seems to be no regard for the circumstances. That seems awfully racist to me.
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Gaesati
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, what would a christian do to these people who assault others using deadly force?
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>what would a christian do to these people who assault others using deadly force?

I'm not certain.

I suspect a literal interpretation of the Bible would simply have them stood up and shot at from about 35'.

I'm less harsh and somewhere there's likely an "in-between an just" solution.

I'm sure it's not 10 months in a minimum detention reform school.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forgiving someone is not the same as a pardon.

Absent sincere repentance, justice must prevail.
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