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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Malaysian Airlines....

SHOT DOWN
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How will BO react? Golf or fund raising? Has he taken his vacation this month yet?
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Crazy dumb mistake, whoever did it.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not much BO, or anyone, can do about it at this point. He can't uncrash the plane.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can't undo anything, but it looks like Americans were killed. We will have involvement.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Terrible. My prayers for all those innocent victims.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lots of finger pointing at this point, and not many facts, other than that people are dead.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Latest report suggesting Putin's plane might have been the target.

Does this not belong in the Ukraine thread, where I said weeks ago, if any American's are killed......?

Rocket in England
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Ftd
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo nailed it. Fund raising.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/17/white-h ouse-to-theblaze-no-scheduling-changesat-this-time -as-obama-heads-to-nyc-for-fundraisers-after-crash /
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No disrespect towards Sifo intended, but it isn't hard to predict what Obama's reaction to world events is going to be, given that 100% of the time he jets off to a fundraiser.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The O is just preparing you for his actions in the near future.

When D.C. gets nuked he'll be on a fundraiser.

No doubt the nuke will be aimed at Putin.
And RT news will tell us all the jews left D.C.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Further reports (even from RT) saying that Putin's plane has been nowhere near there for a long time (not a surprise, unlike our president, he is a good tactician).

The Russian denials are coming in a bit loud and fast at this point...
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket is right this belongs on the Imperialist running dog lackeys attacking Russia in New Russia ( Ukraine ) thread.
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Torquehd
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If history is any indication, the US response will be a picture of a sad face, and a #don'tshootdownairplanesyoumeanyheads.
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Macbuell
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If Obama history in any indication, US Response will be tough talk followed by total inaction.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To be fair, what can he possibly do? We don't even know what happened yet.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or some kind of passive aggressive drone strike or long range bombing that just makes us look weaker.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I honestly don't expect much to be done from our end. Getting too tough on this won't help us and can do little but widen the gap between various parties. I almost expect this from BO. Perhaps drawing some sort of red line daring them to cross it. I've been busy all afternoon and have no clue what if any response we have given at this point.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess BO could apologize to Putin and offer to disarm the US. If he does better than that, I guess I'll call it not a complete disaster on his part.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CNN now has something new to follow for the next 4 months. Who fired the missile? A wormhole or the moon?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dolphins fired the missile, just before they left the planet pending the arrival of the Vogons.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like 23 Americans were on board. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696366/It -looks-like-terrible-tragedy-Obama-briefly-address es-Malaysian-plane-crash-emerges-23-U-S-passengers -board.html

Looks like BO took only 40 seconds to go from talking about this incident to telling jokes at his fund raiser. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696366/It -looks-like-terrible-tragedy-Obama-briefly-address es-Malaysian-plane-crash-emerges-23-U-S-passengers -board.html

I guess that's still better than the bar I had set to not call it a total disaster, so... There is still time.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The guy is a total and complete incompetent idiot.

He's fun raising and screwing with traffic here until 9:30pm . . he's a pain in the ass.

He'll draw a "line in the sand" or something and then we'll hear about as much as we have about "fast and furious" . . ."the IRS" and Benghazi.

He's a loser and a laughing stock on the world stage.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Western media's already made its mind up Putin's to blame. Why should BadWeB be any different.....


Rocket in England
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could be anyone willing to kill for power.
Describes everyone involved.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anybody seen a video that shows actual evidence of a plane being shot down?

I haven't... just an explosion in the distance, and no fiery trail out of the sky, nothing like that at all.

Last time I checked, even a small missile hitting a small aircraft leaves a trail going up, and another more incendiary trail coming back down....



Never mind a larger missile hitting a giant airliner full of fuel.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Word on the news is that phone calls intercepted between Russian intelligence and the Russian separatists indicate that the separatists admitted to shooting down the plane because they thought it was military.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And the "Russian Separatist" on the other end of the phone is actually a Russian intelligence officer.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My point being, we've seen video of a ground-based explosion in the distance, and another video of wreckage and bodies on the ground.

Nothing at all I've seen connects those two videos to each other, and the explosion shows no evidence of having originated in the air.

This whole thing smells. The part of my brain that entertains conspiracies tells me that the actual airliner is now sitting alongside the first one that went missing, and the wreckage we see was placed there to simulate a crash. The perpetrators are, of course, building a fleet of flying bombs.

The other 99% of my brain tells me that none of us has any clue what's going on, other than something is going on.

Either way, it's not good.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Putting aside the question of who shot down the plane, what the hell was the airline thinking flying a passenger jet into a war zone where for the past week people had been shooting down planes? Where were their heads?
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