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     Macbuell |
Since Fred isn't up to date on current events (I know, big surprise!) http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipi ac-university-poll/national/release-detail?Release ID=2056 | ||
| Sifo |
The troll can't even tell us what it is that he disagrees with in a multi-point post. Rather than discuss any detail of his actual opinion he pivots to another topic. Very lame. "I didn't vote for Obama, but I could have lived with him if his policies were honestly represented, fairly voted on to be implemented, fairly vetted by the media, and were funded by current collections (as opposed to stealing from our children's future earnings)." I don't agree, but fair enough. You have our ear. Tell us exactly what you disagree with and why. And while we're at it... Garry, What do you think is the most important thing that needs to be changed with our immigration policy. A single point shouldn't be so hard to answer. | ||
| Court |
Obama is not quite to the top of the list but is moving fast, and increasing the pace of his downward spiral. Folks can handle incompetence . . . it's when he started lying the democrats began joining his detractors.  | ||
| Fredfast |
"That article is four years old. But you knew that." A presidents legacy can only be viewed historically. But you knew that. | ||
| Hootowl |
"A presidents legacy can only be viewed historically." "But you knew that." Yes, I did, but since four years does not allow for historical perspective, it isn't applicable. And since historical perspective isn't possible at this point for Obama, posting a link about the worst presidents in history to rebut the assertion that Obama sucks donkey balls does't really make a whole lot of sense. | ||
| Court |
>>>A presidents legacy can only be viewed historically. I agree . . . with regard to politics and policy. But never, in the history of the nation, has a president been so known for lack of character, integrity and honesty. Barack excels and OWNS this category. | ||
| Fredfast |
"Yes, I did, but since four years does not allow for historical perspective, it isn't applicable." That doesn't make sense. | ||
| Hootowl |
Sure it does. Stop being obtuse. | ||
| Pwnzor |
It doesn't make sense to him | ||
| Fredfast |
"Sure it does. Stop being obtuse." Who's being obtuse? If it isn't applicable then don't make the statement (Macbuell) that Obama is the worst president ever. | ||
| Fb1 |
At some point the pResident will have to declare martial law; I don't see how he can finish out his term otherwise, especially with the midterms coming and the Senate up for grabs, and with the word "impeachment" hanging in the air. The National Park protests during the FedGov "shutdown" didn't quite give him the opportunity, however the Bundy Ranch showdown surely came closer. Besides clobbering our social system by inviting people, via executive fiat, to break into our country and allowing them to stay on OUR nickel (see Cloward-Piven), perhaps he's also testing the waters to see if this might be the right time to whip out his Martial Law hole card. If so, what if his "soldiers" tell him to pound sand? Wolfie asked this question a while back (I'm paraphrasing): If push came to shove, would the federal government fire on US citizens?
Source, more: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/07/16/wol verine-report-border-patrol-agents-threatened-to-d efy-orders-and-stand-down-if-dhs-used-force-on-mur rieta-protestors/#more-85493 | ||
| Reindog |
Troll, Then why did you post the worst presidents in the first place? You had an agenda to deflect criticism from Obama. Then you whine when you are called on it. Again, why are you even here? You contribute NOTHING and your sole intention is to sling mud. You are truly six sigma to the left of the curve. Go away, Troll. You are lucky that you have Blake's implicit support. God loves you. God bless your pea picking little heart. Go hang out with God as it would do you some good. | ||
| Fredfast |
Mad Dog - I just can't let this thread be only a billboard for your stupid cartoons. | ||
| Hootowl |
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| Brentx1 |
I like his cartoons. | ||
| Reindog |
Thanks, Brentx1. I love political cartoons. Ramirez is a true master at satire. | ||
| Sifo |
The cartoons are based on more reality than anything that FredFrank ever seems to post. I would welcome an honest fact based dialog. It virtually NEVER happens. | ||
| Fredfast |
"I would welcome an honest fact based dialog." That, in itself, is dishonest. You don't want dialogue. You only want a forum for your political perversion. You and others are in your comfort zone here. You dominate any discussion by numbers. It's senseless for me to have a dialogue with you concerning the qualities of this president when I know that the real reason for your hatred is irrational. | ||
| Hootowl |
You are proceeding from a false assumption, one that several people have attempted to disabuse you of. There's that obtuseness again. | ||
| Aesquire |
...then don't make the statement (Macbuell) that Obama is the worst president ever. But what if the statement is true? FF refuses to answer questions, changes the subject when shown how wrong he is and accuses others of lying when they express an honest opinion. I have no comments to make about his personal life, but.... http://kotaku.com/5938996/the-worst-internet-troll s-might-be-mentally-ill http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/c limate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_stu dy_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140217/0512242 6247/psychologists-internet-trolls-are-narcissisti c-psychopathic-sadistic.shtml http://thedailybanter.com/2014/02/if-trolls-are-ac tually-mentally-ill-people-what-do-we-do-about-it/ Narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic, and sadistic. What do you do when you think the person you are dealing with is mentally ill? I don't know. I try, now that I see that his actions are not sane, to not feed his ego. It's hard, since it's really obvious he tries SO HARD to push people's buttons to get anger, since he so seems to enjoy the sadistic pleasure. Now, we do have several lefty loons, which may indeed believe that Barack Obama is picked on because he's Black. And some people do, in fact hate Barry the Weasel because of his skin color, but I never seem to meet them, and I know of none here. It does seem to be an axiom that the neo-commies just can't have a real, honest conversation about Obama, or the Democrat Party ( aka the Progressives aka the dishonest about being Communists ) and I don't know how much of that is mental illness, and how much is lack of critical thought. I Know the Savage Nation guys says "Liberalism is a mental disorder", and I can't agree.... But that's on a technicality. Liberal does not equal Progressive, or Communist, or airhead. "leftism is a mental disorder" gets no argument. Liberals, Old School, believe that people should have equal opportunity, that pre-judging people on the basis of physical factors, like color of skin and sex and size, or on place of origin, is wrong. The word Liberal got stolen by the Progressives. I suspect most old school liberals now call themselves Libertarian, or some other label, but I assure you, We resent the identity theft. ( Some, however just got dumber, when the need to think was removed in the takeover. ) The Progressives very name is a lie, since they are the most Regressive people in politics. They want aristocratic rule, with, of course, them as the new Kings, or at least Lords, over others. A REAL Progressive would want more personal freedom, more opportunity for the poor, and less control over other people. But, alas, the Progressives are just Communists with a fresh paint job, and a better set of lies, ( Thank you Madison Avenue ). People who are part of the power base for Progressivism are evil. If you know that you are telling lies for power, what else can you be? Look at Harry Reid's business dealings. Corruption, theft, tax evasion. People who are seduced by the Progressives... there is hope for them, but they too learn the Alinsky Way of Lies. It's simple. Fred may be Ill, he may be evil, you can't tell from anything he says, because, at core, he is dishonest. Sorry. It sucks to be him. | ||
| Aesquire |
BTW, I'd be overjoyed if FF proved me wrong and had an honest conversation. You know, demean himself to talk to us haters.... Like Me who wants Condi Rice and Allen West for Prez & VP. Not holding my breath. | ||
| Reindog |
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| Sifo |
Despite the lies of a couple of resident progressives here, make no mistake... The Dems are making a push for flat out amnesty. What good they think will come of that, I have no clue. Given the lack of rational discussion, I'm convinced I will never know. I'm pretty sure they really don't know themselves. We can be clear though that they intend to flood the country with illegals, and declare there is no such thing as illegal anymore. Be sure that no country survives without control of it's borders though. Garry, FredFrank, is that really what you want? House Dems Push Amnesty on Twitter: America's 'Doors Are Open' | ||
| Fb1 |
Now, we do have several lefty loons, which may indeed believe that Barack Obama is picked on because he's Black. One of the very few things we actually know about 0bama is that his mother was white. So how can he be called black? Serious question. As an aside, I've made no secret of my respect for Allen West. He'd make a tremendous president, and I'd vote for him in a frikkin' heartbeat. Be sure that no country survives without control of it's borders though. Our country will survive, it will just be fundamentally changed, is all. The Progs don't want our country to cease to exist, they just want to change the way we're governed. I sure hope they don't succeed, but it's depressing to see all the damage that 0bama and his minions have inflicted during his tenure. It's like watching a serial arsonist setting fires. Yeah, sure, we fight the fires, but seemingly do nothing to stop the fires from being set in the first place. | ||
| Garryb |
I would have thought congress would have allocated the funds Obama asked for to deal with the problem or at least come up with a better solution. | ||
| Aesquire |
"deal with the problem" ? What did Obama want to do with these funds? pay for lawyers for the trespassers? give to Bill Gates and his massive investment in prison infrastructure? Move police to the border area, ( exposing their current beat ) and ordering them to not enforce the law? Seriously. I've made my suggestions for at least an outline of what Immigration reform should be. I await your suggestions eagerly. WTF does that have to do with a manufactured humanitarian crisis where the President Decreed that he wasn't going to enforce the law, that he was going to make the law one that did not pass Congress, and orders Law enforcement not to enforce multiple laws as written? Guy breaks into your house. Police catch him, give him a meal and a change of clothes, a bus ride to a town down the road and tell him to check in with the police wherever he ends up so they can discuss prosecution. Here's a pamphlet to sign up for welfare, and free College. Oh, your door? Pay for it yourself, and thanks for paying for the bus ticket, and the free college. It's a crappy metaphor, I admit, unless you live in a Border community, or someplace they are shipping the , what is it as of this week 100,000 new Undocumented Democrat Voters? Look up the Mariel Boatlift, where Castro emptied the jails into Miami. See the romantic version of that in "Scarface". And we are working hard on an epidemic, if you ship all these New Pawns all over the country with lice, fleas, and fresh new germs. This is insane policy. Give them a plane ticket home. | ||
| Aesquire |
Give Obama one too. | ||
| Fredfast |
"I have no comments to make about his personal life, but.... " A losers retort. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.newsradio1067.com/common/more.php?m=49& post_id=154 Send the illegals to school with the Obama girls. Not freaking likely since Barry's first action as president was to make sure poor D.C. children lost their chance to go to that exclusive private school. Says a lot about the golfer in chief. | ||
| Garryb |
If congress doesn't provide emergency funds then those states can put them on a plane and send them home. Its not a red state problem that we are getting a crazy amount of tornadoes every time it rains in Wis and its not our problem what going on at the borders. I'm sure Allen West is for less federal involvement and more state autonomy. |
