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Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 07:09 am: |
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So he was never even considered a POW! Bergdahl Was Never Listed by US as a POW |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 07:51 am: |
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It what's wrong with flawed ideas and bad leadership. The filter the current administration saw this through was "I have people in Gitmo I just want to get rid of, and I have a chance to bring a US soldier home, and I need to get media attention off of the fact that the VA is a mess before even they realize government run healthcare will be even worse... so it's a win win win". The filter that also should have been applied is "what will these 5 people do if I let them go", "is there anything noteworthy about how this soldier was captured and what his current goals may be". But that would require selflessness and humility, which is limited at the best of times in government, and totally absent in this administration. America deserves better. |
Macbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 10:15 am: |
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5 high level Taliban Leaders for one deserter. Giving the Taliban and other Terrorist organizations the impression that they can ransom US Soldiers for their prisoners. Makes complete sense ... Only if you are the Obama administration. Just when I thought they could go no lower. |
Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 10:31 am: |
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The filter the current administration saw this through was "I have people in Gitmo I just want to get rid of, and I have a chance to bring a US soldier home, and I need to get media attention off of the fact that the VA is a mess before even they realize government run healthcare will be even worse... so it's a win win win". I have a feeling you are off base on that. If we take them at their word that this negotiation has been going on for about a month now, I'm pretty certain that their thought was "this VA scandal is making us look really bad. It seem the people really do care about the military. What story can we assemble in a hurry to make it look like we care?" The timing is just about right! |
Reindog
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 10:47 am: |
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Good morning Conservatives, future Conservatives, and those who demand justice where currently none resides.
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Reindog
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 10:49 am: |
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The Middle Class becomes a little poorer because Wonderful knows what is good for you better than you do.
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Reindog
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 10:51 am: |
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What VA problem??????? It's already been solved, haters, racists, homophobes, misogynists, and bitter clingers. Go home, there is nothing to see here.
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Reindog
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 10:52 am: |
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Even Wonderful can spin this. Amazing!
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Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 01:00 pm: |
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Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 06:20 pm: |
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I saw that BO, talking from Poland, explained that the 30 day notification to Congress before releasing Gitmo detainees had to be ignored so that he could save the life of a US citizen. It's interesting that he also ignores laws so that he can take US citizens lives by drone when he sees fit. It's good to be king. It really is worth noting that this man has taken the roll of deciding who lives and dies. Does ANYONE think that may be just a little bit disturbing? |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:00 pm: |
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Obama is a mad genius. We couldn't kill these bastards at gitmo. As soon as they get back to Afghanistan they're fair game. Pretty sure they're being watched. Just a guess. An alternate theory, if you will. |
Xdigitalx
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:22 pm: |
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HOOT!! I hope it gets done before they come up with something else. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:30 pm: |
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Hoot, I wish I could indulge in that fantasy. Me I'd go with implanted trackers and missile strike them at an appropriate moment. Sifo, I find it a bit more than disturbing. I bet that just taking a list of things Barack has said about killing people to a shrink would result in protective custody, until "forcibly proven sane" for anyone else in the country. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:32 pm: |
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Or...he's closing gitmo down, one murderous lunatic at a time. Either seems plausible. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:33 pm: |
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Er...5 at a time. |
Mikexlr650
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:35 pm: |
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They are being watched with the same laser like precision as the guns given to the drug cartels...uhh umm well Carney got out just in time. |
Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:43 pm: |
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So, I just wonder... If/When one of these five terrorists kills again, will the BO supporters acknowledge that this was a VERY bad idea? |
Aesquire
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:44 pm: |
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Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:47 pm: |
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Not the reaction I was hoping for. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:47 pm: |
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Sifo, No. I'm sorry, was that a rhetorical question? |
Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:50 pm: |
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Aesquire
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 09:01 pm: |
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U.S. Soldier Who Claims To Have Served With Bergdahl Casts Doubts On Official Version http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/218196.php Anyone got a lawyer btw? All politics aside I think we can reasonably agree if you get on the wrong side of the current admin. they can and will strike you down. http://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/negotiati ng-with-terrorist-more-on-the-new-russian-empire-n otes-on-a-strategy-of-technology/ ...PFC Bergdahl was promoted to Corporal and then to Sergeant while in captivity, and was listed as a Prisoner of War – an interesting designation since it make the Taliban a legal enemy of the United States and the Afghan operation a “war” within the war powers act, at least in the eyes of the White House and the Department of Defense. And the President of the United States, the Secretary of Defense, and presumably the Secretary of State have negotiated the trade of five (5) very senior Taliban officials – war criminals under most definitions of war crimes – for one PFC deserter. This does not look like a very attractive trade, nor does it speak well for the negotiating powers of those sent to make this deal. Five flag rank officers for one PFC seems a bit extreme, particularly since the US doesn’t negotiate with terrorists. The President of Afghanistan is horrified because he had hoped to take custody of those five flag rank Taliban officers to use in his negotiations of a treaty of peace after the US departs. He’s going to need them. The great fear is that once the US military departs, Afghanistan will revert to a Libya-like state of civil war. Libya has become a failed state much like Somalia, spewing weapons all over Africa and generally contributing to chaos. Iraq hasn’t quite reached that status, and there are tranquil civilized areas in the conglomerate ‘nation’ built from old Turkish provinces after The Great War, but there’s no real assurance that it won’t go that way. Saddam kept Sunnis and Shiites from killing each other (and protected Christians, Druze, and a few Jews while he was at it); his price was having to put up with his despoty – not as bad as some have been there – and his completely decadent sons, who were determined to show that those who will not study history will have their noses rubbed in it. The Libya collapse makes it clear that cringing before the United States won’t earn you much: Khadafy gave up his nuke stuff, his chemicals, a scapegoat for Lockerbie, and just about anything else we demanded, and it didn’t even earn him a place in exile for himself and his children. But then the United States, having driven Saddam Hussein into his spider hole, proceeded to dismantle the Army, send the soldiers home with rifles but no jobs, and impose the most incompetent proconsul since the fall of the Roman Empire. The Kurds did learn and learn fast, and have come out of our intervention in Iraq much better off than they were before we went in. It’s not so clear who else can make that statement. Afghanistan is about to elect a new President, and it’s unlikely that his writ will run much further from Kabul than the current President’s does. The best thing the US can do for him is to get out fast – the only thing that unites Afghani’s is the sight of armed foreigners on their land even if they claim to be allies of the Mayor of Kabul – and to leave him as many bargaining resources as possible. Five Taliban flag officers would have been very useful; but he won’t have them now. It’s late. I have been trying to come up with a US policy that would make this POW swap reasonable, and I am not sufficiently clever. If there’s a good reason for doing this, it’s well beyond my ken, and nothing I have heard from the President’s men enlightens me. Still don't know enough to have a valid opinion beside not approving of this regime's policies. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 09:07 pm: |
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I cannot vouch for any of this. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/02/w e-lost-soldiers-in-the-hunt-for-bergdahl-a-guy-who -walked-off-in-the-dead-of-night.html http://weaselzippers.us/188152-report-military-kne w-where-bergdahls-was-being-held-but-didnt-want-to -risk-lives-of-troops-to-rescue-a-deserter/ http://thehill.com/policy/defense/208070-white-hou se-apologizes-to-senate-intelligence |
Court
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 09:24 pm: |
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Fred . .. Fred . .. Fred. . . . you got some 'splainin' to do. |
Reindog
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 01:13 am: |
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Good night Conservatives and those who are finally awakening and abandoning this Idiot called Obama.
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Oldog
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 10:02 am: |
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just more DC blunders... WHEN DOES THE IMPEACHMENT START ? |
Hootowl
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 10:17 am: |
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When there are enough votes in the Senate to convict him. Bringing charges to the Senate and having them refuse to convict him would only add legitimacy to his actions. |
Sifo
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 10:46 am: |
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Reindog
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 10:47 am: |
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Good morning Conservatives and future Conservatives. I trust everyone is keeping up with the news. The EPA is now part of the extra-Constitutional Fourth Branch of government. What is YOUR plan to recharge your electric car? I plug my appliances into power plants where the uninformed plug into the receptacle in their garage while unplugging their brains.
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Reindog
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2014 - 10:48 am: |
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