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Court
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahaha. . . . my points are long gone . . . . I've been interviewed by enough left wing media outlets this week that I am about to implode.

Interesting.

They don't ask for your opinion.

They tell you what they WANT your opinion to be and then end the "declarative question" with, "right?"

Fred and friends have surrendered critical thought to mob mania mentality.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They tell you what they WANT your opinion to be and then end the "declarative question" with, "right?"

You should answer with a simple "NO"!
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Fredfast
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Yeah . . you only missed a few details."

The only detail that matters is that Republicans would not allow single payer. You got what you deserve.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let's see, BO said he didn't want single payer, it was never written as single payer, and it was passed without input or support from Republicans. At leas that's how it went in this reality. I have no clue about where you come from.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The only detail that matters is that Republicans would not allow single payer. You got what you deserve."

You continue to amaze me. Not in a good way. This fiasco was passed when the Dems controlled the house, senate and white house. Controlled. That means the Dems could have passed anything they wanted. Hell, they did. Republicans attempting to save the Republic from this nightmare were flatly overruled.
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Fredfast
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"At leas that's how it went in this reality. I have no clue about where you come from."

Your reality - taking on the government in armed revolt.

Yeah, I want to be a part of that.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny, I don't remember the armed revolt. Not part of my reality... yet. If it happens though, I know who are not welcome to the compound.

Please, please, please, post some support that Republicans has some say in ObamaDontCare. I have a need for a good laugh from well written fiction.
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Fredfast
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That means the Dems could have passed anything they wanted. Hell, they did.

Dems didn't have the votes among themselves to pass single payer and Republicans had no proposal. So what did you expect - a half-assed universal health-care bill.

Open your eyes.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fantasy Fred's "facts" are fallacy.

Republicans were unable to do ANYTHING.

Democrats ...... The same ones paying Michelle's roomie 15x what it cost to build Amazon ..... We're busy building the "still a calamity" website and writing the law.

Your logic is lames
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Fredfast
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Republicans were unable to do ANYTHING."

Bulls**t - They were set against universal healthcare from the start so the dems went ahead without them.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They were set against universal healthcare from the start so the dems went ahead without them.

That's probably the most accurate thing I've ever seen you post. Yes, the Republicans were against single payer. They were also against the monstrous failure that was passed. Yes it was done COMPLETELY without Republican support. It was done COMPLETELY without Republican input. Not because they had nothing to offer, but because the majority leaders wouldn't ever let anything they proposed come to a vote. This gigantic clusterf**k is 100% Democrat.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo, a polite correction.

Obama wanted Socialized medicine, aka "Single payer", but knew he couldn't get that past Congress, period. ( D, R, or I you don't survive to get re-elected with THAT crap ) He also stated that he'd have to do it over a period of time, and so we have the current Cloward-Piven system designed to enrage America into demanding a "Strong Leader" "Fix Things" and "Demand Single Payer".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven _strategy

They've already begun the propaganda campaign to ramp up to the "Demand Single Payer" and it will go remarkably like Court's interviews. They already have the disaster, and if timed just right ( and Barry has already set up the timing ) the next 200 million people that lose their health insurance because of Obamacare, will let the so called press tell us that demand exists.

That is assuming Putin doesn't kick The O's butt for starting a war first.

Second point.

Yes, the Republicans didn't have input, but they DID slide a poison pill into one of the spending bills ( IIRC another "continuing resolution" they do now instead of a legal budget ) that insisted that Congress would be bound by the same law as everyone else.

Naturally when that part kicked in they screamed like wounded water buffaloes and Barack Obama illegally paid their bills with your money in direct violation of at least 3 laws, including Obamacare.

Other than those little nit picking points, you are correct. Carry on.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And here I was thinking that the latest news on the post office losing 1.9 BILLION in its second quarter and the grim news on deaths at VA hospitals would silence anyone from making the argument FOR single payer government run healthcare.

Thats like saying the clippers owner sterling should head up the naacp.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The ACA is Americas First Five Year Plan; its track will follow (and has) the trajectory of NEP from Lenin.

A primer for those unaware. The Soviet Revolution and WWI gutted Russian Industry.... So Lenin (and bankers) 'invited' in foreign investment, development, and technology - to build the base, promote production and build 'infrastructure'..... when the numbers were shown to create wealth to the capitalists holders of industry and factories but not the workers - he seized it - all of it - implemented state production quotas

Obama is simply Lenin 2.o
So - invite in foreign infrastructure builders, let them make huge money in profiteering and cronyism....and then 'seize' the assets and widget of 'supply this time / not production) and run it as a state controlled schedule of curruption, power, tyranny and economic strangle over the lower class to promote his power.

History rhymes - entirely too much.
Enjoy the show - I have already seen it.

it was designed to fail - to say otherwise shows you haven't read it; and haven't been paying attention.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, this is one of those cases, that IMO, I can be right if I want and you can be right if you want. It's as simple as picking the right quotes from BO. He's officially for or against it depending on who he's speaking to. The man literally has not spine at all.



Now if we are talking about what he REALLY wants to happen, then I haven't got a leg to stand on. Of course he wants single payer. Let's not be stupid!
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that perhaps we have discovered FrankFred's problem. Obama's too!

http://tinyurl.com/kupryrw
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great article!
I don't dispute The O said what you said. You are correct in that.

Barry said a lot of things even he knew are lies. Period.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of the more incompetent people to ever be elected to office.

History is going to eviscerate this lying bum.

Ya gotta be proud fred . . . .

By the way . . . which is it? Is he FOR or AGIN a single payer plan? My money is on him not even knowing what it actually is.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fred Do you know who has single payer
SLAVES? So sign your soul away to the tender mercies of a Gov employee!

LOLOL Poor Fred are you 55 yet? Go check up on Zeke Emanuels whole life plan LOL your Screwed!
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Fredfast
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Ya gotta be proud fred . . . . "

I am proud. Proud that Americans elected him TWICE. Thankful that your ilk are in the minority.

He makes Bush look like a Court jester - no offense.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No..... The " minority" are the 46% that believed his "it's am internet video" lie.

Tough deal when 54% of the population think the dude intentionally lied.

How'd you like your legacy to be. "Liar"?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to often wonder if there were people in Germany that actually willingly supported Hitler as he dragged them down the crapper. There is no longer any doubt in my mind. It's quite chilling to see it in action.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There were. Most did. Hitler was an excellent orator. Much like Obama, but more effective, with the ability to execute and not just prattle on incessantly. Unfortunately for the world in general, and Jews specifically. But also blacks, gays, gypsies...

The vast majority of the German populace supported the Nazi movement, and had no idea what was really happening. It wasn't until they were shown the death camps that they believed.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This fetid government cares less about our Vets.

Report: VA Spends Close to $500 Million on Conference Room, Office Makeovers Under Obama

Don't read this article because it is from FoxNews. It can't be true because the MSM is not reporting it.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/05/15/report-va-spe nds-close-500-million-conference-room-office-makeo vers-under-obama
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course they did. They had a trillion dollar "stimulus" slush fund to blow through.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

proud that the machines from a French vendor that supported his campaign counted the votes

and in typical illinois election tactics - the dead always vote in the incumbant

Lots there to be proud of.
He is not even original - he is simply ripping off memes from Gogol and Lenin; nothing new or unique about him.

I am sure a large section of population was 'proud' of Hitler, Stalin and Mao - it is after all the same cult of personality.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The actions of some of our "elected" officials are beyond belief.

moochelle's hash tag thing for the kidnapped girls does she think that the guerrilla fighters that took those children, actually do twitter? REALLY? these people live in another world....
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Court
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While I recognize the power of social media ..... The words "Facebook" and "twitter" loosely translate to low content.

Digital junk mail.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/15/va-scandals-rais e-the-specter-of-healthcare-rationing/ Read the whole thing.

"Why did some VA administrators go so far as to create a secret waiting list to hide year-plus wait times? There’s only one plausible answer to these questions: rationing. The VA is but a smaller version of the sort of government-run, single-payer health care with which the political left is so enamored."

Yet Sarah Palin was crazy for telling us about Death Panels. Comrades, Utopia is near!
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2014 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL Freddy you show evil nature
With your usage of the work "ILK". Only the true haters and those with ISM issues use that word LOL


Blake any news on the Slinky people emoticon I requested?
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