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Xdigitalx
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the philadelphia mayor did something recently too. Very strange message.

http://phillyconservative.com/2014/03/14/philadelp hia-now-a-sanctuary-city/

I think he is trying to be like SanFran?

I am not against reforming immigration pathways to citizenship, as long as it is an honorable and purposeful path, not just amnesty.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the ACA premiums are all artificial - there is no underwriting to support their projection, their escalation, and their implementation.
essentially - it is 'whatever' they feel like

your best analogy for this -..... the price of a stamp, and indeed the service analogy plays well too.

welcome to the show
I f'n warned ya.
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Brumbear
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I called the number when I asked 2 questions and they couldn't answer either one I said I am sorry your not ready I don't want to sign up. The problem I know have is my new rates in May because I am a partnership and no longer qualify as an employer and must seek regular rate in. is no so high I wont be having health ins. at all this truly sucks!!!
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2014 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/21 /White-House-Leads-Liberal-Media-In-Matt-Drudge-At tack

"I'm not going to take your Rifles".
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2014 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Happy 4th year anniversary to this mess....
anybody see any improvement from it or because of it yet ?
....
I didn't think so : ?/
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhhhhh . . . .but don't assume for a moment it's not being noticed . . . . I landed back in NYC today . . got home to a stack of medical bills. The "client pays" portion of the dentists visit was $600 and the root canal . . .well of the $4,600 (that I had to pay at the time of the visit) I got reimbursed $2,700.

I have some of the best coverage there is and this is going to get insane. By a strange coincidence (riding in a car, headed to LAX this morning) I got to listen in on an hour long conference call as one of the largest Insurance companies had their weekly "what meds will we cover" conference.

This is going to get good when the employer mandate kicks in.

Hurry with my $2,500 big o ! ! ! . . . or, to quote nancy pelosi . . ."affordable, affordable, affordable, affordable". Oh . . how I wish I'd inherited $29M with of vineyards like her.

:-)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 02:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trading Emails with a South East Asian ExPat member of Cigna Leadership this week; things here are very 'liberal' in that there is the freedom to try and do new things, to test markets, and to exploit regional care realities that exist only in microcosm
ie
WHAT NEEDS / NEEDED to be done before a full scale roll out of a 'transformational' system.

The big benefit to Korean Med Plans - NO Medicaid, NO Medicare - and NONE of the ideology that bred either program.

I am hopeful we get a successful test launch of exactly what I recommended in my Master's Thesis.

News as it happens.
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't care anymore my wife just had a catscan and the ins refused to pay for it even though we got it oked before it was done and we have a conf. number for said ok. I am just gonna throw my hands up and say F it.And this is the ins. I pay OVER 1200 A MONTH FOR THEY THINK i AM GONNA PONY UP EVEN MORE IN MAY FOR THIS COVERAGE NAH f IT i AM GONNA BECOME PART OF THE PROBLEM LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-obama-car e/032414-694425-matt-drudge-pays-obamacare-liberty -tax.htm

Look at it this way, free health care in prison for not paying the illegal tax for not buying a product from companies that bribed the President.

Looking forward to asking the judge to confirm that analysis.

All I have to do is arrange to give away all my possessions and then I can sue when they finally abort this mutation.

Assuming of course that I'm still alive, they still have elections, and the R's aren't complete idiots, again. ( kinda doubtful on all the above )
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Although Moochelle calls young people "knuckleheads", a lot of them are smarter than we give them credit for sometimes. You can't polish a turd and they "get" the constant barrage of lies and stench emanating from this Administration.

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Doz
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Question: for those not complying and will be "fined", Where does that money go?

I still have my doctor, and my "plan".
Cash is my plan, and my doctor accepts it (often at a reduced rate). God help me if I get pregnant though.
As for Brumbear becoming part of the problem (and myself) we're just helping the eventual demise of "O-dontcare".
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Fredfast
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"As for Brumbear becoming part of the problem (and myself) we're just helping the eventual demise of "O-dontcare"."

Sounds like you're helping your own demise.
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Doz
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We all gotta go at some point in time. Some should go sooner.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This whole thing has to go. Screw them folks that just got healthcare "some for very first time" ... pass another new law and have them send their bills to Obama, Pelosi and Reid to pay for it.

Start over. Get it done the right way. Eff this crap.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the 'fine' is another tax - it will go where all the other taxes do; into a giant vat of nothing
(as 1) it is not specifically earmark, administrated, nor collected for Health Care 2) what have they done with 'Social Security')

That path is all you need to know - it will disappear and it will never be 'enough'
welcome to the show.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sebelius and others in the Obama Administration, categorically stated that the March 31 deadline would not be delayed and then delayed it. After that, she said she didn't lie. Can anyone with at least one ounce of ethics and morality justify this behavior? Aren't YOU getting tired of these cover ups? Republicans eventually woke up and stopped supporting Nixon. When will Democrats do the same to Obama who is an order of magnitude worse than Tricky Dick? If not now, when?

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Court
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tricky Dick?

As I recall . . .those were the days a young attorney gal, Hillary Rodham Clinton, was fired from her job for ethical violations?

That Tricky Dick?
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Republicans eventually woke up and stopped supporting Nixon. When will Democrats do the same to Obama

Small difference,
The politicians then were more in the line of public servants then.

MANY of the Dems of today are little more than criminals in suits,

BTW Reindog, you CAN polish a turn the
Mythbusters did it ... as did the democrapic national committee when the best the DEMS can put forth is
obama, biden, reid, pelosi, fienstien, weiner, wasserman - shultz clinton
Iwould say that those turds are shiney..

[ notice Jimmy Carter, Gabby Giffords are not on the list as they seem to be decent beings ]
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Court
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wes laughing last week . . as moochelle, her daughters (who the news pretty much featured for their obvious disinterest in even being there) and her mother . . . were promptly booked into the $8,500 a night hotel rooms . . . the same rooms that were deemed too expensive for Biden on his trip.

He's at least entertaining.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Marie Moochelle Obama is truly an ugly person. There was no need for her to make this trip at the American Taxpayer's expense. I am ashamed of these hypocritical Americans who give our country a bad name.

Michelle Obama’s China trip taxing hotel employees: ‘We can’t wait for this to be over’

By Kellan Howell- The Washington Times
Saturday, March 22, 2014


Employees at the Chinese hotel hosting the first family are reportedly “fed up” with the Obama’s high-maintenance antics, and say they can’t wait for them to leave.

Staff workers at the Westin Beijing Chaoyang hotel told the Daily Mail that First lady Michelle Obama, her mother and two daughters have apparently outstayed their welcome. They have been staying in the $8,350-pre-night presidential suite in Beijing since Thursday.

According to one concierge staff member, the Obama women have inconvenienced “pretty much everyone” and the first lady’s mother, Marian Robinson, has been “barking at the staff” since she arrived.

“We can’t wait for this to be over, to tell you the truth,” the staffer told the Daily Mail. “We entertain many important people here, but this has been, I think very different.”

The Daily Mail reported that, since Thursday, government security forces from both China and the U.S. have been screening everyone who entered the building, including paying guests. They have also been setting up check points.

The Westin had to vacate rooms on the highest floor, booting guests with previous reservations, to accommodate the Secret Service in executive-level rooms.

Secret Service agents are also monopolizing hotel elevators long before the Obamas need them, the Daily Mail reported.

The Obamas are staying in a 3,400-sqaure-foot suite described on the Westin’s website as an “oasis of comfort.” The suite includes a “private steam room, corner sofas with silk pillows” and in-room dining for six. They also reportedy have a 24-hour butler.

source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/22/mi chelle-obamas-china-trip-taxing-hotel-employees-/
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wonder how the White House staff feels? They didn't like the Clintons either. Entitled vs. humble.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can stop wondering... White House ex-aide: First Lady Michelle Obama has turned East Wing into 'worst wing'
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hate to complain.....

But true as the above is it has little to do with Obamacare.

Belongs in the Imperial Majesty narcissist thread.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

as there is little health care in the bill, and it is just another avenue to steal, lie, and hoodwink the public with their rhetoric of social justice and wealth inequity....

It can stand here well.
It is the entire aura of 'Let them eat Horse'
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Point.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2014 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And now for another round of 'discredit the source' that can't really be true....

http://downtrend.com/robertgehl/obamacare-applican ts-receiving-voter-cards-identifying-them-as-democ rats/

enjoy the show - gee if somebody had only told y'all that this damn thing would be used for voter registration and founded on fraud and in line with building up that aligned voter pool

FIFTYS

Ps y'all have had nearly 6 years - have you read Gogol's Dead Souls ? It will tell you everything you need to know about this bill; and how.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2014 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/senator-theres -no-such-thing-obamacare_786226.html

So.... this is confirmation that there is no "care" in Obamacare...

Let them eat Kale.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB100014240527 02304157204579471811445906156?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopS tories&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.c om%2Farticle%2FSB100014240527023041572045794718114 45906156.html%3Fmod%3DWSJ_hp_RightTopStories

Many complain that Obama makes the law up as he goes along, and tells his minions in the Social Justice Dept. to enforce laws he likes, and not to enforce laws he doesn't.

They complain that Obama is a Tyrant, and sees himself above the law. True, all true.

But it's only natural that illegally imposing a tax you lied about on 300 million people ( just wait, if you haven't lost your insurance, you will ) and forcing them to sign up or be punished for disobedience would have large crowds show up at the last minute to try and avoid the displeasure of the Crown.

When you create a bureaucratic monster to enforce the Will Of The King, and it is created & run by those who bribe him, a choice not related to competence or ability, you get "problems".

Look at it from Barry's viewpoint.
It's either enforce the law you had written to give you power, probably starting a revolution against your dictatorial rule, or delay it long enough to secure your power, letting the next person in your job ( if there is a next person ) deal with your mess.

That's an easy choice.
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2014 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Death Spiral"


"Dead Line"


"Today IS the DAY"

"A Substantial Surge"

"Fixed that glitch"

"Overwhelmed by the shear numbers of people trying to register on the website"


"If you just TRY to sign up you will have your deadline extended"
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2014 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So you go to anthem, or blue cross, or well point (all paid and bribed in the legislation - you will notice Aetna is considering fully opted out NATIONALLY for the coming 2015 year of coverage) (gee - FIFTYS)
..... the thing is - you DON'T !
At a 4-1 ratio - you enroll in Medicaid.
So those of you that actually work for a living, and get deductions out of your pocket for that line item (and Medicare, and SSI as well) watch those deduction amounts ESCALATE over the coming year.
So not only are you subsidizing their 'care' through higher premiums (with often worse coverage & access) you are loosing more out of your pocket for 'NONDiscretionary Funds'

The goal is to get to a 50% pain point where you loose HALF of your salary through deductions or premiums and you (or the proxies they say are 'YOU') are BEGGING for a 'smarter' "Singer Payer Option" `'just like Canada'
....
and it work as poorly as the Canadian system

Watch and Learn
Wait and See
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Seems fitting. It launched this way. It met it's deadline this way. Well not the final, final, final deadline.
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