| Author | Message | ||
     Rick_a |
Saiga does make a 20ga. There's nothing wrong with having options.  I Prefer a 12ga stoked with "tactical" 00 buck. The gas operated guns are just as comfortable to shoot as a 20ga pump. I'm not a fan of 22mag for anything but an intermediate varmint gun. As far as handguns go I tend to veer towards the bigger bores for serious uses. | ||
| Swampy |
Well Blake...If you don't reload, please save the brass! I am reloading 5.7 and it is no more difficult than any other ammo I have done. The brass needs to be washed rather than tumbled due to a polymer coating that needs to stay on the case. | ||
| Rick_a |
I think back on all the brass I tossed in my youth and it pains me. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Rick, what kind of hand guard/rail is on the top AR? (Message edited by bluzm2 on March 17, 2014) | ||
| Rick_a |
Centurion C4 cut out. | ||
| Rick_a |
I've been giving the M&P-10 a lot of thought lately. Every time I handle one I like it more. They are quite accurate as well despite the lightweight barrel and non floated handguards.  I'd be selling my Romanian PSL to get it, but unfortunately that's the only gun I own the wife actually likes. I'm riding to the range these days and the AR would be much easier to transport and easier to get ammo for. It'd also round out the current AR collection nicely, as well. | ||
| Blake |
Now you're talkin'! Can I get one with a piston and chambered for .338 Lapua Magnum? I'm shopping for a long distance elk and moose rifle. .416 Barrett? Kidding, mostly.  Guns are really interesting to me on multiple levels. | ||
| Rick_a |
Why yes, you can. http://www.onlylongrange.com/badnews.asp  300wm if that's a bit much: http://nemoarms.com/guns/  | ||
| Swampy |
 time to start hoarding ammo again gentlemen | ||
| Rick_a |
 My Precious:  20140321_155822 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The range:  20140321_170333 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The windage wasn't quite dialed in yet. My kid did some of that shooting. Thankfully, he likes shooting his airgun more. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
I agree totally Rick on .22's for much fun. The wife, my grandson and I regularly shoot 500-1000 rounds every time we go out with .22's, rifles and pistols. Colt 22 auto pistol, Sig Trailside with red dots and this: Ruger 10-22 conversion:  | ||
| Blake |
Rick, Thanks for the lead. The price will keep it on my wish list. Saw a couple boxes of .338 Lapua match grade ammo behind the glass at Academy Sports (conveniently located across the street from my dentist) last time I was there. Prices were $120 and $150. Wow. Imagine an afternoon at the range with that and the AR platform could get expensive. | ||
| Blake |
Swampy, Good news! The PS90 devoured 70 rounds of the AE5728A 40 gr no problem. So apparently Federal has resolved the poor crimp problem. The "backup" iron site works pretty well, but an optic is in order. Simple red dot or green dot seems most appropriate. I refuse to purchase any made in China. Can you recommend? I own no such modern optic. From reading and reviews, the Swedish made Aimpoint T1 Micro seems optimum. Not sure I want to invest the $650 for one though. I really like the long battery life. Selection of other reticles would be nice too (basic 2 MOA dot, same with ghost circle, dot + crosshairs, all three). That basically offers 2 MOA resolution for longer distance with equivalent 8+ MOA for good close in aiming point recognition. | ||
| Rick_a |
Bob, those 10/22's in tactical stocks confuse me. I always find myself looking for controls in the AR locations. My wife fired the new pistol yesterday. I had hopes she would fall in love with it and stay off my back a little. No such luck. Blake, I like my C-More. They typically sell for around $225. It's a little delicate for bang around use, but there's an all metal version for about $100 more. Eotech holographic sights start at around $400, though that may be a bit large for it. | ||
| Blake |
Cool. Just purchased the FN integrated C-More optic for the PS90. I'll lose the iron sights though. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Rick: "Bob, those 10/22's in tactical stocks confuse me. I always find myself looking for controls in the AR locations." Pretty simple Rick, providing its not a life and death scenario. Improvise, adapt and overcome. Most of my weapons all have different controls as do most of my different bikes. I get used to all of them, especially when its simple recreation. | ||
| Rick_a |
My solution is just having the 10/22 in a stock that still makes it feel somewhat like a 10/22.  Blake, I hope it works for you. | ||
| Swampy |
Blake, Lets see the pictures of your PS 90 with the optics I have an FN red dot which is OK for close up work on one, and a cheap 2.5-11 scope with a quick release with another cheap Eotec red dot knockoff with a quick release on the other. I toggle between the two scopes on the PS90 with the tri-rail, suprisingly both the cheap scopes are not too bad I am ashamed to say... Great on not having any misfeeds! I bought 2 cases early last spring so yes they probably have the case neck tension figured out by now. Save your brass... | ||
| Aesquire |
The stock optic on the PS90 is considered ok but not great. I agree. So Blake is better off with having choice on his. There is no substitute for looking through an optical sight to decide which you prefer. I even bought a Barska scope to try out the "german #4" reticule. Opinion on that after really trying it out in various conditions is I like the reticule but not a great deal better than a duplex. The scope is decent but not as good optically as a premium one...... a cheap Bushnell in bubble pack is just as good....... ( the Barska spotting scope otoh is crap ) While I am a big holographic sight fan do not discount the tube types. They have a good record in the real world and some models work with dead batteries. | ||
| D_adams |
Not nearly enough. .40, .45, .22 and .223 in there, I guess that's about 1/2 of it. Yes, the mags are loaded. I need to find a cheaper hobby.  | ||
| Reepicheep |
You don't really have a problem until you start measuring your ammo stash by the 5 gallon paint bucket. | ||
| Blake |
>>> Save your brass... That's something the PS90 really facilitates. The bottom/downwards ejection scheme is wonderful for that. They even sell a little catch sack that mounts onto the ejection port of the stock. But near $60 for a piece of bent wire and a small nylon sack? I think I can do better and have some fun in the process. Would wrapping an old jock strap around the gun be too odd? The PS90 "Gun Jock"! It really is a neat piece of firearms engineering. FN should create versions in other calibers. | ||
| Aesquire |
The magazine hold the rounds "sideways"....... Imagine how thick that would be in .338 Lapua...... or .50BMG? Heck, how much would a scaled up 50 round mag in .50BMG weigh? | ||
| Darth_villar |
Approximately 115 g per bullet, 5.75 kg =~ 12.7 pounds. Just the ammo weight of course. | ||
| Blake |
Yeah, it's comical to imagine the extremes. I was thinking more 5.56x45mm/.223. The follower/rounds could be canted inside the magazine to help reduce width. It's irritating that FN won't offer the most effective 5.7x28mm defensive ammo for sale to civilians. The issue of it being "armor piercing" is the excuse. Any high power rifle round will go through class III body armor like it wasn't there. My 70 year old .30-06 deer rifle (thanks Grandpa) will put a hole clean through 1/2" structural steel plate, I mean like butter. 9mm won't but leave a faint mark on 1/4" 6061-T6 aluminum. Near ten times the muzzle energy makes a difference. The pistol capacity for AP might have been the main concern. Rumor has it that 70 year old Tok 7.62x25mm (1911 variant) will handily defeat IIIA kevlar armor. Russians are damn shrewd when it comes to weaponry. Brand new Yugoslavian made M57 (Tok 7.62x25mm) pistols can be had for under $300. If armor piecing capability is what is to limit civilian access to ammunition, say goodby to most if not all high power rifle ammo. Reloading and/or smaller ammo producers offer the potential solution. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Aim Surplus was selling that 7.62x25 ammo *cheap* for a long time. I bought a lot, and should have bought more. And another CZ52 to go with it. The firing pin was weak, $40 for one with better metallurgy, but you won't find a more fun $200 semi auto. | ||
| Rick_a |
Please refrain from calling the Tokarev a 1911 variant. While it shares some design features it is no 1911. | ||
| Aesquire |
I think a .223 variant PS90 is doable. The width can be the same behind the chamber and the handles wouldn't change. Taper the shapes right and it wouldn't be too bulky. Be a major bit of work with molds and such. Some interchangeable parts ...... expensive. FN would need major demand to do it and it would be competition for their own .223 bullpup. | ||
| Rick_a |
My only Barska is an airgun scope on a "magnum" spring-air rifle. The windage adjustment just got crunchy after about 1500 rounds, though it still holds zero. I'd like to put a Leupold on it, but it'll be some time before I can invest $400 on an airgun scope. My favorite scope is this one ordered from Leupold's custom shop.    It has a BDC elevation knob calibrated for M855 out to 650 yards. The most interesting is the POSP on the PSL:  That's an actual reticle picture. The optical quality of the glass is nothing great, but it is a simple, rugged scope with a very cool ranging reticle. | ||
| Rick_a |
FN already has the FS2000 for a .223.  A PS90 style rifle scaled up for 5.56 would end up monstrous. |
