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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You beat me to it Brian...

This ignorant rube doesn't even know who he's calling what.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This ignorant rube doesn't even know who he's calling what.

And yet says that labels are for small minds.
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Pellis
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog - Broaden your horizons and turn away from Fox news. You might actually get an un-biased account.

FF please tell us where we'll find the news presented in an un-biased account.
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Fredfast
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A*squire - No matter what your inter galactic sources are telling you, there were no WMDs found in Iraq. In the process of getting Saddam lynched, Bush/Cheney managed to destroy a country. And how many men did we lose so that they could support their legacy with a very winnable war? And you dare to bring up Benghazi as a foreign policy debacle. Unbelievable.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sifo
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's odd. I worked with a guy who was doing ordinance disposal in Iraq. He told me about when they were blowing up stock piles of ordinary bombs, the chemical weapons alarms started blaring because they were detecting chemical weapons. I guess they must use faulty sensors.
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Fredfast
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In a court of law, that's considered hearsay and is thrown out.

Thought we were done. you just can't resist.
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Fredfast
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"FF please tell us where we'll find the news presented in an un-biased account."

Try PBS.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We are done have any intelligent conversation. I however can comment in general when something really stupid has been said. I may continue to choose to comment about you. I expect no dialog of any significance to come from it though.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I often complain that the talking heads on Fox news just read absolute idiocy right off the AP line. ( so do the rest of the so called news programs. Reporting is expensive. Reading a feed is cheap. )

"Caucasian" refers, as noted above, to the folk from the mountains that the originator of these racial terms thought were the most beautiful people. ( considering Mila Kunis...... he had a point ) naturally, he considered himself one of them, and the "white race" was termed Caucasian.

There's long been a tradition of conquering people pretending they didn't come from barbarian roots, but have always been the Kings and Elite in the lands that they rule.

This is sometimes hilariously true in the area from Northern India through Turkey where generations of Steppe dwellers would fall upon civilization, trash it, rule, and in a few generations invent grand histories, become decadent city dwellers, and then get conquered by the next wave of Steppe folk, who do the same thing. Over, and over.

"Hispanic" is a person whose ancestors are from the Iberian peninsula. Spain, Portugal. Distinct from other southern European bloodlines, like Italians, because of the influx of Arab & northern African genes during the occupation of that region by the Caliphate.

The folk from south & central America who are from the mixed stock of Aboriginal and Hispanic Conquistadors ( and those who followed in search of Gold and freedom ) are referred to as "Hispanic" pretty much only in the US.

It's a legal term having to do with racism, slavery, and oppression. The science behind it is, at best, bogus.

The labels above are a legacy of the Democrat Party, the English Slave sellers, and the Arab Slave traders. By calling another man a different word, you rationalize depriving him of life and freedom.

That's why the unlamented late Imperial Kleagal of the Ku Klux Klan often used the "n-word" until fairly late in his life, as long term, oft re-elected Democrat Senator. Then he claimed to have reformed, and regretted his ties with the Klan. But, as Bill Clinton said, that's what gets you elected in those times and places. ( and Party )

The old laws that stated that one drop of Negro blood made you a Negro came from the Slave Owning days, when by-blows from randy plantation folk had to be kept in their place. Guess who wrote those laws?

In the case of the President, other than a few idiots, ( Like Joe Biden ) and Democrats, ( Like Joe Biden ) no one cares about his skin color.

There are a few who find it sad, and typical of his kind, that he has bragged about doing illegal drugs, but his inJustice Dept. vigorously prosecutes users. If Barry had been busted by the Holder run DOiJ when he was in school, he'd have a felony rap sheet and never been allowed to run for his job.

And by "his kind" let me make perfectly clear, I mean lying lefty hypocrites who speak of "income inequality" while not donating a dime of their millions to actual charity. ( Obama did make some nice donations. To political groups that donated to him. First. ) These folk get a warm fuzzy feeling of "helping the poor" by demanding you pay, at gunpoint if need be.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/03/iraq-war-retroac tively-justified-by-discovery-of-saddams-wmds/

There! told ya!

( the above is a joke. I did love the part about Cheney. )

So, the poison gas shells we did find are imaginary? That's going to be a big surprise to the Polish troops who captured those mustard gas shells, the US troops still suffering from the side effects of binary gas shells used as IEDs and the Brits who, I suppose, don't need to help the Iraqi's with the poison gas incinerator to destroy the remaining stocks left in Iraq. Since they aren't there.

Phew. Thank goodness. Now I can complain about Hillary lying to me about the poison gas Saddam had in addition to her lies about Benghazi.

I suppose we better tell those dead Kurds to get up and start breathing again, the charade is over!

PBS? Those folk are convinced Stalin would have made a go of Communism, if only he'd been as smart as they are. I listen to them daily.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the not Fred people, some interesting stuff.

http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=15 918

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhoo d/forbidden-table-talk/2013/oct/1/iraq-did-have-we apons-mass-destruction-according-n/

And they were watching the satellite monitors, of these tremendous 18 wheelers, crossing over from Iraq into Syria, prior to the recent war in Iraq, prior to the American invasion of Iraq. And the weapons were sent to Syria; the weapons were sent to Libya; the weapons were sent to Sudan.”

He went on to talk about “the gassing of the blacks in the south of Sudan from the weapons they received from Iran and Iraq.”


http://nypost.com/2010/10/25/us-did-find-iraq-wmd/

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/10/24/wikileaks-do cuments-show-wmds-found-in-iraq/

And from Faux News...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/06/22/report-hun dreds-wmds-found-in-iraq/

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Decla ssified.pdf

Because it's dinner time across much of America, I'll skip the pictures of poison gas victims of Saddam.



The question that MSNBC will not ever ask, is "of the 10,000 tons of poison gas verified by the UN inspectors before getting ejected from Iraq during the Clinton Admin. we've found a tiny fraction. Where are the rest?"
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Fredfast
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[9] President George W. Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War,[10] despite multiple dissenting opinions[11] and questions of integrity[12][13][14] about the underlying intelligence.[15] Later U.S.-led inspections agreed that Iraq had earlier abandoned its WMD programs, but asserted Iraq had an intention to pursue those programs if UN sanctions were ever lifted.[16]
Bush later said that the biggest regret of his presidency was "the intelligence failure" in Iraq,[17] while the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration "misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq".[18] A key CIA informant in Iraq admitted that he lied about his allegations, "then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war".[19]
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northame rica/usa/10598265/Silicon-Valley-billionaire-compa res-treatment-of-Americas-rich-to-Nazi-persecution -of-Jews.html

Shocking? Or inevitable?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Iraq has and had no WMD. Frank/Fred and MSNBC said so. Go back to your Martian web sites.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you are in doubt of the facts, there's nothing like going to a source where anyone can edit the material.
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Fredfast
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Shocking? Or inevitable?"

Neither - Hilarious
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wikpedia... the slow blog.

I laugh a lot at the wikpedia, as I will read something, for example a politician's bio, and then revisit it to recall some fact I didn't pay much attention to...to see if I remember it right. ( what years was so&so in office? )

And I find that entire episodes in his life are..... gone. I mutter to myself..."didn't he have an affair with a lumberjack? Then pass a Clearcutting law?" and I go look on the web & find the BBC article ( the Brits are SOOOOOO much better at political sex humor ) about the clearcutting law and the "scandal". Yep.

Now the wiki says he was an environmental champion..... No mention of the skunk incident, at all.

Speaking of Martian Websites....... http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/eating-our-yo ung/?singlepage=true

Points for getting Petronius’s Croton without cheating. I cheated.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2014 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hilarious

I agree.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog - Broaden your horizons and turn away from Fox news. You might actually get an un-biased account.

Not at abc, cbs, nbc, cnn, msnbc or pbs so exactly who does that leave ?

cbs, cnn, msnbc all have had corespondents caught in lies and distortions. the others are guilty of selective reporting { Lying }, from MY OWN observations. confirmed by experts, the information is out there in several places..

fred, fox is just a bit right of center, and prone to sensationalism. the other networks seem to have their lips superglued to the clown princes Arse

the '12 election when the prince got OWNED by Mighty Mit, the left leaning press even algore made excuses, Man it was better than SNL,

the left leaning press ignored kandi crawly's save of the clown prince in another debate, I watched it happen

none of the other nets have put any time into any serious reporting on :

Benghazi
F & F
IRS scandals,
or obama dont care

Widen my horizons? I dont need the libtards like chris mathews, piss moron, nancy greace, or that dirt bag that thought some one should s**t in Palens mouth.. to think for me

NO thank you.

I have a suggestion find the C-span channels on your box, and spend some time when the house and senate are in hearing or session, I watched hours of the stuff, especialy relating to the budget battles and the IRS Targeting scandal
Lerhner knew and lied.
eric knew and lied
rice knew and lied
barry knew and lied.

the dems on budget cuts ... (SNL)

May I also suggest that you spend some time reviewing history, one of the most unsettling things I keep running into they are repeating history's mistakes
the parallels to NAZI Germany(193x) history gives me pause.

We have a politically motivated incompetent, and corrupt executive branch and criminals in places in house and senate
derailing the work of honest dedicated public servants, the "main stream" media is failing the public trust by serving these corrupt entities. }

broaden your horizons C-span, Fox, and various net sources
Put the koolaid down.

(Message edited by oldog on January 28, 2014)
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

May I also suggest that you spend some time reviewing history, one of the most unsettling things I keep running into they are repeating history's mistakes
the parallels to NAZI Germany(193x) history gives me pause.


One of the early posts by Frank/Fred was attacking the bankers, blaming them for the financial crisis we ran into. I'm sure he has no clue that what he has been lead to believe as truth is the exact same thing that Hitler lead Germany to believe. Both are equally untrue. As things failed to improve for Germany, the blame evolved from just bankers (who were largely Jewish. So are many of our bankers BTW) to Jews in general. We know how that turned out for Germany. If we expect to not wind up doing the same thing, we have to stop doing the same thing! Frank/Fred seems to be OK with repeating this bit of history. He's either ignorant, evil, or all of the above.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"spend some time when the house and senate are in hearing or session,"

I've done that, and that's why I'm a conservative. I used to think that they were all the same. Watching a few debates (not the sound bites the press feeds you) really opened my eyes to the lunacy of the left. If only people could pry themselves away from "reality" TV and watch a bit of reality, we'd all be better off.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



















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Court
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>PBS

PUBLIC Broadcast System. . . . that's your version of "objective"?

Wow.

While small minds amuse, they provide little of tangible value.

I've got to thank our cosmic-minded friend for reminding us that there is a segment, an increasingly large segment, of folks who have surrendered their intellectual curiosity. . .

It's a shame really.
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This comically shows how the so-called Constitutional scholar is dismantling the United States. This is why it is vitally important to hold your nose and vote Republican this November. The People can then impeach this criminal in the House and convict him in the Senate. Obama CAN be removed from power in 2015. HOPE to go FORWARD and CHANGE! Biden is totally incompetent but he can be the Bumbler in Chief until Jan. 2017 which is a lot better than this pResident.
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I no longer watch this clown on television. Liars lose ALL credibility whether they are in the White House or on Badweb.

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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama Needs to Do Less Finger-Wagging and More Apologizing
By David Limbaugh · Jan. 28, 2014



President Obama's policies continue to produce results that are the opposite of what he promises, yet he brazenly cites the abysmal state of his economy to announce – indignantly – that he will double down on his failures.

Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven – notorious leftist professors who devised a sinister plot to overburden the American economy to the point of collapse and then replace it with a socialist system – would be quite proud of their understudy.

Obama's policies are drowning America in debt, unemployment, dependency and despair, yet he blames us for his failures – as if he's been an innocent bystander – and says he's going to ride to the rescue on his unconstitutional horse of unilateral executive orders to restore “equality” by fiat.

Even if Obama could get Congress to go along with his scheme to further burden success, opportunity, small businesses and major producers in this country and even if it were a desirable state of affairs for the tyrannical hand of government to decide how assets and income are divided among citizens, history conclusively shows that such socialist and communist ideas lead to increased poverty.

Obama is probably going to cite a recent Pew Research Center poll that supposedly indicates that most Americans want the government to take action to reduce income disparities among Americans. Even if we can take this poll at face value, it doesn't necessarily mean Americans want government just to confiscate wealth from some and transfer it to others. But it wouldn't be that surprising if they did favor action along those lines, given the left's 75-year systematic assault on capitalism, the free market and our founding American principles.

But David Harsanyi, a senior editor of The Federalist, points out that Obama is omitting a significant factor in the equation. Most Americans, says Harsanyi, still believe in upward mobility, and empirical evidence shows that upward mobility still exists as much as it did decades ago. Though Obama and his fellow socialists want us to believe that the American economy is a finite pie – a zero-sum game – the reality is that people move up and down the income ladder all the time. Many of yesterday's poor are today's middle class, and a significant number of them are wealthy.

In fact, Obama's oppressive spending, taxing and regulation exacerbate income inequality and impede upward mobility. The way out of our economy malaise is to reduce the federal government's chokehold on the private sector and producers, expand opportunity, increase the pie and unleash the possibility of growth across the board.

Do people think America is invincible just because it is named America or because of its unique constitutional guarantees of liberty through limited government? Do they think that socialists can continue to overburden the private sector, ignore our founding principles and destroy our liberties without tragic economic consequences?

America has never been about guaranteeing equality of income; it's about equality of opportunity. That's because human beings are born with God-given rights of liberty and because unleashing such liberties invariably produces the most economic good for the most people.

These dangerous ideas that Obama keeps pounding to forcibly redistribute income are anathema to the American dream, incompatible with liberty and devastating to prosperity, no matter what Cloward, Piven and Obama propagandize to the contrary. They are part of Obama's big lie, and they have to be beaten back, with vigor.

It's time that Obama be held to account for his miserable failures. We can't let him pretend he is not the primary causal agent in the ongoing economic disaster we are experiencing in this country.


This is Obama's economy, and he's sapping the economic lifeblood from this country, its businesses and its entrepreneurs. He has presided over – and caused – the worst recovery in a half-century. Actual unemployment is frighteningly, horrifyingly high – because of his policies, with minorities being the hardest hit. He is destroying America's health care system, driving people against their will out of the private insurance system, severing people's ties to their doctors, reducing their access to care, reducing their choices of care and greatly increasing the individual cost of care and the cost to government of health care. Everything about Obamacare has been a premeditated Obama lie.

Before anyone listens to Obama about any major new policy initiatives, he must be held to account for his homicide of the American health care system and the critical injuries he's inflicted on the economy, as well as a host of other failed policies he's engineered and false promises he's made.

Sen. Ted Cruz is hardly being facetious with his suggestions that Obama apologize in the State of the Union address for his Obamacare lies and answer questions about Benghazi, the political targeting of conservative groups by his Internal Revenue Service, and other abominations.

This time, the Republican establishment should not leave Cruz hanging out by himself but join him in demanding accountability from President Obama.

source: http://patriotpost.us/opinion/22978}
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

everytime I get these - I just cringe. I feel like I am watching a Jr Student Body Class President....
From the White House (surprised he hasn't called on changing the name as it is clearly racist) **** Cut, Copy, Paste Alert

Tonight, Barack will deliver his fifth State of the Union address.

You might think that this speech was born out of a pile of papers or a long series of meetings. But actually, the real motivations -- and the real substance -- behind tonight's speech come from those quiet moments late at night, when Barack is at his desk reading your letters.

He reads at least 10 a day, from folks all across the country. You write him to say thank you, or to weigh in on a policy issue. You tell him about your families, and what's going on in your lives. And he listens.

These letters turn into real action. I've seen it happen: He'll write in the margins "This is who we're fighting for," and then he'll pass them on to his senior staff.

Take a look at this video -- you'll see what I mean. Then make sure to let him know you'll be watching tonight.

Barack is always up late before big speeches like this one.

And all day today, I know that he'll be making changes to the speech right up until the last hour.

It's not only because he wants to get that final draft just right. It's because he cares deeply about your stories and your hopes and dreams. That's what keeps him going every single day.

We hope you'll be watching:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sotu

Thanks,

First Lady Michelle Obama

P.S. -- I'm honored to be watching tonight's speech with some incredible Americans from across the country. Meet them here, and make sure you tune in at 9 p.m. ET.
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Chauly
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Puh-leeeze, Brian; I just ate lunch!
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