| Author | Message | ||
     Hootowl |
Here's it is, the thread where we can fairly criticize all politicians, not just the President. Yeah, it may have been settled a long time ago, but it still sheds light on your "I'm better than you and the laws don't apply to me" attitude. This is the guy who is supposed to be upholding the law in MD. Sounds like he's taking lessons from DOJ as far as that goes. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/14/democra t-in-md-governor-race-ordered-troopers-to-speed-ru n-red-lights/?intcmp=HPBucket | ||
| Strokizator |
Yep, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. There's some good guys out there but they're being held back by the bad guys who know how to work the system. | ||
| Hootowl |
This disgusts me on many levels. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/14/computer-glit ches-causes-public-assistance-frenzy/ I know there are a lot of welfare recipients out there who are nothing more that teat suckers, but this makes me think there are a whole hell of a lot more of them than I had imagined. To the point of being an epidemic. The politicians who support this system of theft from taxpayers are nothing more than slave masters, and are undeserving of their office. And if you don't think what happened here was theft from the taxpayer, you are dead to me. Does anybody seriously think any money will be recovered from the criminal welfare recipients? | ||
| Reindog |
Tell me again about those poor "poor" people who looted Walmart. They are simply thieves and Democrats will provide them cover. Are you ready to embrace Conservatism yet, you silly, guilt stricken Liberals? It is 11PM in the Weimar Republic. Do you know where your freedoms are? The storm is coming if we don't change course. Tick tock. | ||
| Sifo |
I have a friend who has been asked by a PAC to run for the House of Representatives. I've known her for about 30 years now and have to say that I would like to see her elected. I wish she was in my district. I have to admit though, I've got more than just a passing interest to see what happens to her if she does get elected. What compromises will be made along the way? Will she be able to maintain her principles? Right now, if there was a vote to get rid of the entire house and congress, I would be all for it. Granted some good ones would go, but overall, it's hard to imagine the replacements would be any worse. Most politicians wouldn't know what principles are. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
I agree Tom (Sifo), but, at the next two elections in particular, I would split my vote. Usually, for the last bunch of years, I, being a true Conservative, have just pulled the straight Republican ticket. But I DO see some "newer", mostly Tea Party type people, I would want to keep in office. Many of both parties are more bent on maintaining their dynasty and political clout then doing whats good for the country and that's just plain wrong. I have one in particular in mind here in Utah for sure. The next two elections, I believe, will tell a great deal which direction our country takes. Be prepared for whatever happens. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
A term in office a term in jail no more than five terms in a life time no more than three consecutive terms, no matter the party or house No retirement until 72. and during a shut down NO F;n Pay. | ||
| Hootowl |
And no back pay either. | ||
| Hootowl |
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/19/co ngressman-charged-with-cocaine-possession/?hpt=hp_ t2 This guy probably votes to keep funding DEA and the "war on drugs". Hypocrite. If he had a shred of honor, he'd resign. And sorry pal, cancer is a disease, what you are suffering from is a lack of self control. | ||
| Bbbob |
Hey, that's my congressman! Well, actually he just represents the district I live in. I didn't vote for him. He started as a local news anchor then local radio talk show host. "We" elect these clowns & wonder why the govt doesn't act responsibly or honorably. Those here that are his "fans" are already making excuses...(Knock on politicians in general regardless of party) | ||
| Swampy |
Sad day for all of us, we are navigating towards the perfect storm. We have a runaway congress serving their own personal best interests, we have a president that in at best a fool hardy liberal that is forcing America into communism. Our Southern border might as well not be there. We are being invaded by not just Mexicans but every country in Central America(see Mexico arresting 200 illegals crossing through)We have Islamic Jihadists calling for the institution of sharia law with their leaders calling for the destruction of America living in America, and all the while those that we have elected to stop this kind of thing are fiddling. We the people think that just because we have the guns we could stop an overthrow of government from the internal elements mentioned above but we the people would be fighting against those islamics that have immigrated to America with an unbelievable amount of experience from running jihad in their homelands and the southern invaders are experienced in jungle warfare learned over the years from fighting against their own countries. We have our leaders that are either sympathetic or actually promote their cause and belief. We have enclaves of jihadists that are being elected to all levels of government throughout America and will swear to uphold the American Constitution as long as they can change it. In the mean time the Southern invaders are alegorically slaves, working jobs that no other unemployed American will do(Yeah Right!) Working for very low pay, not paying their taxes, draining the American resources such as health care and receiving the myriad of different forms of public assistance that is funded by Americans. Then the Southern invaders will send US dollars to their homelands(the peso was 7.8 per dollar last night)all the while the private bank called the federal reserve is printing makeup/filler money to replace the lost US money. Tighten the sails, a South wind is blowing. Sorry for the dark clouds! Happy Buelling! | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Personally I like Terry Pratchett's idea of automatically incarcerating politicians at their election to save time & public funds. | ||
| Etennuly |
Right now, if there was a vote to get rid of the entire house and congress, I would be all for it. Granted some good ones would go, but overall, it's hard to imagine the replacements would be any worse. Most politicians wouldn't know what principles are. This is the thinking that got us into this mess. WE have to take the time to vet out the bad ones and find a way to actually GET them OUT. it's hard to imagine the replacements would be any worse. This has become one of the most dangerous statements in politics. | ||
| Oldog |
+2 Vern | ||
| Sifo |
Etennuly, While I do agree with you in principle, in practice things have gone terribly wrong. Part of the problem is somewhat explained with this...
There really is a problem with new congresscritters learning from the old ones. Especially when the old guard will punish them for upsetting the apple cart. Don't worry though, we will never have such a vote to get rid of all at once. It's strictly a hypothetical. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
it's hard to imagine the replacements would be any worse. This has become one of the most dangerous statements in politics. So true, this thinking has given us the bunch of shitbags that are running France into the ground. Many many people are now waking up to this fact, but there's another 3 years to go. | ||
| Hootowl |
Tom, I use the monkey story frequently at work. It's amazing how many business processes are based on conditions that no longer exist, yet the processes built around them are still being fastidiously and religiously followed...and audited. | ||
| Sifo |
it's hard to imagine the replacements would be any worse. This has become one of the most dangerous statements in politics. So true, this thinking has given us the bunch of shitbags that are running France into the ground. Many many people are now waking up to this fact, but there's another 3 years to go. I really have to disagree with that assessment. The original statement was about replacing all of them at once. I don't know how things work in France, but here in the US, that is never on the table, even by complete capitulation to that idea. Most of the Senate just aren't up for reelection during any given election. Every election has always been about the candidates that are on the ballot. My original statement was about a hypothetical situation that has never, and will never occur. I would however agree that believing that the replacement for an individual couldn't be any worse, does lead to poor choices at the ballot box. That is different from what I originally stated though. | ||
| Sifo |
Tom, I use the monkey story frequently at work. It's amazing how many business processes are based on conditions that no longer exist, yet the processes built around them are still being fastidiously and religiously followed...and audited. Yeah, I've been involved in things where there's nobody left that knows why it was even done that way in the first place. I think it's especially true when dealing with old computer code. People just don't want to change something that they don't understand why it's doing what it's doing. Sometimes that's good, sometimes not. | ||
| Oldog |
the dems are having that sick sinking feeling, so this will help solidify their strangle hold on things for a little while longer http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret- baier/blog/2013/11/21/senate-dems-win-vote-change- filibuster-rules-invoking-nuclear-option | ||
| Hootowl |
They will decry it as unfair when the conservatives have a majority again. Mark my words. | ||
| Fahren |
They will decry it as unfair when the conservatives have a majority again. Mark my words. Of course they will. Just as both sides gerrymander the electoral districts when they have the chance, and whichever side is not in the majority screams bloody murder. And Trey Radel: Maybe he should lose his government-provided benefits for drug use. Isn't that what he supports for others? | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
All roads lead to Rome. Washington and the surrounding burps are busy consolidating both political and financial power. Like the center of a universe a sun in it's terminal phase burning ever brighter consuming more and more energy growing ever larger until it eventually consumes everything around it. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/18 /Boomtown-DC-Fastest-Growing-Region-for-One-Percen ters-Because-of-Bigger-Gov-t-Complex-Laws | ||
| Macbuell |
They will decry it as unfair when the conservatives have a majority again. Mark my words. Hopefully that is only 12 months away. } | ||
| Reindog |
Everyone here is missing the point. This is not a victory for the Democrats, nor the Republicans, who have an excellent chance to take back both houses next year. This is a DEFEAT for America. Period. There is a vital reason why the filibuster rule has been part of the Senate since 1791. This is tyranny where the minority has no say. This is really, really bad. I was surprised that the Democrats went along with it as they will be the eventual victims. America just became more divided. | ||
| Hootowl |
"I was surprised that the Democrats went along with it" I remember the hand wringing by Democrats a few years ago over this matter when the R's controlled the senate. They claimed it would irreparably harm America if the filibuster went away. Hypocrites. But, America is waking up, and the Progressives/Socialists/Communists need to get as many judges seated as they can before they are ejected from office. Until recently, they haven't been able to get their agenda passed legislatively, so they had to rely on liberal judges to write the laws for them. They see the end of their legislative control on the horizon, and that's got them in a panic to fill up the benches. | ||
| Reindog |
Roger that, Hoot. The hypocrisy of Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, Biden, Feinstein, Clinton, and all Democrats about the filibuster rule is earsplitting. They were all stridently against removing it when things weren't going their way. Now, they removed it for exactly the reasons you just gave. It is short sighted and dangerous for our Republic's survival. I am a little less certain of the viability of America as of today. Rome went from democracy to dictatorship over centuries. Dictatorship, albeit a soft one, is around the corner. A Leader shall arise to wash this scum away. | ||
| Fb1 |
It is short sighted and dangerous for our Republic's survival. It would appear, yet again, that "our Republic's survival" is not a plank in the democratic platform. I am a little less certain of the viability of America as of today. I am out of words. | ||
| Etennuly |
I met one of our local politicians a few times when he was local. He would take time to talk with you and he was good at being careful in crafting what he said and how he would state what he was saying. I thought he was being a little stand-off-ish in his manor of speaking. I found he had larger targets in mind. Now a Congressman, when visiting home, he has canned statements, avoids most issues, and speaks in a very limited manor. He is controlled by the fear of how any of his public statements will be taken out of context or used against him. What a sad way to live. I'm sure a lot of them face the same program, they gotta have BIG shoulders with a lot of slope so that they can be tough enough to take it and smart enough to let the crap run off. The Monkey story carries a lot of truth. | ||
| Chauly |
It could be why Chris Cristie is as popular as he is. Plain-spoken, speaks his mind, and tells people they are full of beans when they try to sound-bite him. |
