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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Isn't the Hysosung motor, the one that Suzuki sold them from the SV650?
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not understanding some responses. HD decides to try something new, something many have been screaming about for years, yet they still get lambasted?

I don't think this is a totally bad idea. They opened up some markets with a cheap bike that uses a LC motor. What's wrong with that?

The 500 will no doubt be the Blast replacement for the Edge program. Its a bike that newbs can afford and can test ride by going through Riders Edge.

Would I buy it? No, no chance in hell, but I'm sure they're going to sell a ton of these things.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"When the street is where you live, it starts to live in you. True of a rider. True of a motorcycle. The look of the Harley-Davidson Street™ 750 and 500 motorcycles comes from the street. Born out of the custom tradition of tearing down a motorcycle to its raw, minimal essence and letting the pure rebellion inherent in the lines of the machine come screaming through. This is the essential attitude."

A creative career in copy writing awaits you in the new and exciting field of motorcycling !
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Deanh8
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was all for it until I realized they didn't do anything new on their own. It's a copy of a copy and it used all foreign parts and stuff. Then the way it's marketed. All pure BS
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"pure rebellion" !! Now that changes my mind; will they take my XB12S in trade?

Ha-ha, just kidding!

Give up 100 hp for a Harley styled 750? (Tempt me with an XR750, though)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

there is a video on facebook of one outfitted with a bunch of crash bars and such mounted up for Riders Edge.

I haven't found it on youtube yet but I did come across this....

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Josequinones
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Josequinones
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




more info HERE
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting video. I like how they are very concerned with the direction of the weave of the carbon fiber... To make sure it looks best.
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Josequinones
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

The whole bike is hyosung based. What a POS




I think u are confusing ATK's deal with Hyosung.

I have seen no reporting linking the HD street with Hyosung designs/products, do you have any links to this?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Harley sees the Street competing with bikes such as Honda’s Rebel. That model, with a 234 cc engine, starts at $4,190 and is one of Honda’s more popular lightweight models. That potential has the dealer base excited, said Levatich, who showed the Street to the national dealer council last month. "
via Bloomberg.... interesting
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's starting to grow on me. But I'm not in the market for a cruiser.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Josequinones
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


1977


2006

(Message edited by josequinones on November 05, 2013)
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Josequinones
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 750 makes ~54hp? That's it?
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That seems a bit low. My VT500C at 491cc made 48.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And that was 30 years ago!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Ascot is a much nicer looking bike, IMHO!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That "Tank / Cylinders / Air Cleaner" triangle just ***screams*** tonka toy to me on the new Harley...

Looks nice from the seat on back though.
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Coxster
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

54 HP sounds high for a HD product, most sportys are 44-ish?? (RW Hp) I still hope HERO stomps them!
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not understanding some responses. HD decides to try something new, something many have been screaming about for years, yet they still get lambasted?

I'm kinda with 'chinashop on this. Enough with the vitriol - snow's not even hitting the ground yet...

I'd still rather have an Iron over one of these, but d@mn this looks good



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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it will sell, but not necessarily in the US market - it will be another XR1200 experience (a bike I really like)

and yes, I am already eying it for knobbies
and a set of bags.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wish them well, it looks like a more reasonable bike for new riders, and folks who can't afford one of the "premium" bikes.

it seems a little "industrial" to me but
it fills a need for reliable transportation at a reasonable cost.

Time will tell, it could be their next big seller to compete with the Japanese.

I don't know but I GUESS that some of the parts are made in India, and sent here to be assembled.

give the guys at hero and EBR some time and you may see a product designed by ebr build by hero for the same market......
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got no problem with India. If we're offshoring, I'd rather support the world's largest democracy than communist China.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cycle World's December issue has a blurb about this bike. They say it's from India. I'm curious to see how it does.

The 750 makes ~54hp? That's it?

Agreed, there's nothing Earth shattering about that, but neither is 103hp from a 1200 cc Buell. Sounds reasonable for the type of bike, especially if it has a typical Harley torque curve.
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Cycle World article also mentioned the Tq for the 750 was 44 ft/lbs. Snore....
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Odd, my Cycle World article makes no mention of the torque. It does say it makes about 50hp though.

Triumph Bonneville claims 50 ft/lbs of torque from an 865 cc motor. It weighs more too. OK, I might snore at that too, but it is reasonable for it's class.
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Azxb9r
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it will be another XR1200 experience (a bike I really like)
The XR1200 was a bike I would have seriously considered buying if it was $4000-$5000 cheaper, but at $13,000 it was just overpriced. If the 750 street is in the $7000-$8000 price range I think it will go a long way toward helping sales.
An affordable entry level or commuter bike could be a good move for HD, I kind of like it. I just wonder if it has any cornering clearance
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

its supposed to be agile...
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