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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Romneycare wasn't what Romney wanted as an end game. It was a patch on a system that was already hosed. The health care system in MA was so screwed up that Romneycare solved more problems than it caused, which was the intent. That doesn't mean we should emulate it elsewhere. The conditions are not the same.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice. You won't even tell us your name, and you're calling someone else a poser. I'm done with you.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Matthew Anthony... You really NEED to change Your Username on this website to "Poser" (Someone who acts like someone there not, but not realizing that there being fake, basically a loser trying to fit in. - Urban Dictionary) it would be much more fitting.

That is a totally unwarranted, and very personal attack on a fellow member. Patches, you need to go away. You are engaged in personal attack, while refusing any dialog. Really... Leave!
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Romneycare wasn't what Romney wanted as an end game. It was a patch on a system that was already hosed. The health care system in MA was so screwed up that Romneycare solved more problems than it caused, which was the intent. That doesn't mean we should emulate it elsewhere. The conditions are not the same.

Good points. Economic conditions are not the same in all states. Solutions need to reflect local conditions. One size fit's all solutions seldom work well.
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/18/republicans -resumed-koch-funded-seditious-conspiracy-destroy- government.html
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://americablog.com/2013/10/ted-cruz-gives-fier y-victory-speech-nearly-destroying-republican-part y-video.html
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/16/pat-buchanan -to-gop-better-to-destroy-the-country-than-give-in -to-obamacare/
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Patches wrote:
Matthew Anthony... You really NEED to change Your Username on this website to "Poser" (Someone who acts like someone there not, but not realizing that there [sic] being fake, basically a loser trying to fit in. - Urban Dictionary) it would be much more fitting.



Patches:
You are about to be taken to the back of the woodshed. Ad Hominem attacks will not be tolerated by this community.

You are showing a lack of class in attacking the poster rather than reasoning with them and you reek of a lack of education as you can not get basic facts correct.

Matt is a personal friend of mine and possesses ten times the character that you are displaying here. Tread lightly, my friend, because you need to apologize. Matt doesn't need your apology, YOU need your apology and to begin thinking about how your emotions cloud your reasoning ability. Your actions are truly sad but demonstrate the fundamental intellectual vacuum of most Liberals who have trod here.

(Message edited by reindog on October 19, 2013)
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Fb1
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get the fk out if you don't like it. And take your •••••• president with you because he sure as shit does not represent me.

Amen.


If Romney had been elected...
1. We would know everything there is to know about Benghazi
2. Obamacare would be stopped/changed, and/or written to make it better for everyone. (etc etc).
3. Economy would be recovering faster or possibly recovered by now)


Amen.


If Romney had been elected most people wouldn't even know the word Benghazi. ...Also Fast and Furious would just be a semi-watchable movie.

Amen, and amen.


I also think, if Romney won,... there would be a lot more bipartisanship in congress. He is a businessman and knows how to negotiate, he is also compassionate.

Amen.


Myself, I would have preferred Allen West for Pres and ?? (Ted Cruz, perhaps?) for VP, but Romney/Ryan would have been just what this country needs. The lies and treachery would have come to an immediate stop, and Mr. Romney - who some falsely accuse of being "elite" - very likely would have worked for FREE, and darned doubtful he and the missus would be constantly jet-setting around the globe, partying like (and with) rock stars, on OUR nickel.

Elite? Dear Leader and the First Lady are spending money - OUR money - like it's going out of style. Sadly, perhaps it is.


Hey, does anyone remember when the Lyin' King pledged to cut our national deficit in half by the end of his first term?





No worries - it's still prolly Bush's fault...
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even Microsoft would be embarrassed to release a system that was this bad!
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guys don't feed the troll libdemonRats etc live to name call and blame others for everything.

Just remember there is nothing worse than the desperation fear and self loathing of the progressive liberal mind.

His only chance at any relief from his personal hell is upsetting others. Intelligent discourse is impossible for him all learning and rational thought is nearly impossible due to feelings he can't control.
So be kind and nice to him he can't stand that " Your kind words will be like burning coals on his Tongue " In short he is a hell of his own making LETS KEEP HIM THERE!
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the GOP really going to make America go through another campaign of "Lipstick on a Pig"?

http://www.kentucky.com/2013/10/17/2881122/sarah-p alin-suggests-she-will.html

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/why-americans-hat e-the-gop-and-whats-the-matter-with-sarah-palin/20 13/01/29
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/10/the-most-hat ed-party-ever-gop-in-worse.html
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Republican Civil War Over Shutdown Drama

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=20615308
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Grand Old Party

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/shutdown- showdown-widens-gop-tea-party-rift-20613725
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patches:
This thread is about President O. Please start your own thread about whatever point you are trying to communicate with your non existent audience.

You do realize that you are coming across as a child throwing a tantrum?
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama goes on a State visit to Israel . While he is on a tour of Jerusalem , he has a fatal heart attack. The undertakers tells the US diplomats: "You can have him shipped home for $1 million or you can bury him here in the Holy Land for $100." The US diplomats go into a huddle and come back to the undertaker and tell him they still want Obama flown home. The undertaker is puzzled and asks: "Why would you spend $1 million to get him home when it would be wonderful to be buried here in this religious country and you would only spend $100?" One diplomat replied: "More than 2000 years ago a man died here, was buried here, and just 3 days later he rose from the dead. "We simply can't take that risk".
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah but if the republicans weren't all republicany and corporationy. I realize that a lot of bad things have happened directly under the Obama administration, and he himself is of very questionable background, but the main problem is that the republicans don't like America. It's because of republicans that Obama has to change everything about America that makes it America.

I listened to one of his recent speeches during the so-called Shutdown. He is an influential speaker and I even began to believe him about how the republicans were unwilling to negotiate. And then I read the actual news. Lies. You can't deny that he is a pathological liar.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rein Liberals are a tantrum
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patches
A lot of us want the gop to change. I'm not sure the tea party is right on all things, but they talk and walk a more fiscal conservative line than the "establishment" R's.

You have some stuff backwards. The budget fight was the tea folk vs. the old guard. The tea folk wanted to stop the illegal funding to let Congress ignore the ACA, but Obama refused.

Obama won this one, in large part because of the lies you are quoting.
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The World Wide Web is seriously twisted. They said on the News last night Arnold was trying to change the Laws so he could run for President... -"El Pesidentenater"


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/ 20130818-born-in-canada-ted-cruz-became-a-citizen- of-that-country-as-well-as-u.s..ece
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wait, how they get HIS birth certificate so easy?? And.... how long did it take the anointed one to show his?
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh I know... lets vote him in BEFORE we really find out ..... Ring a bell?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how long did it take the anointed one to show his?

All I've ever seen is a newly formatted digital version. That certainly isn't an original from the early '60s. I would guess it's probably accurate information, presented in a way to leave people riled up. It's his way. He spent millions to hid his birth certificate, only to show the world one that clearly isn't original. I'd love to hear the "good intentioned" version of why that went on.
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes and John McCain was born in Panama ..... Ring a bell
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Britchri10
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't hold your breath!
To me, The President is only interested in furthering his agenda & anything he can do to distract from opponents or anyone else examining his aims is entirely appropriate as far as he is concerned.
It's the oldest con trick in the book. Throw out a few "fish heads" for the opposition to rail about & they will, whilst he forwards his agenda WRT: the important issues affecting ALL of the USA.

BTW: This comes from a Liberal leaning resident alien who has no actual skin in this game.
When he ran for the first time I supported what he told me was his agenda.
Now? Not so much. (To say the least)
What he said & what he's done are completely different.
I recognize a shyster when I see/hear one
Chris C
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Fb1
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What he said & what he's done are completely different.

Amen.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And here is the thing.... Obama was a "community organizer", nothing more. Yeppers, he was voted in, Now he and his cabinet are responsible for the entire USA,.. and they are really screwing it up!! You really don't see that??
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW: This comes from a Liberal leaning resident alien who has no actual skin in this game.

But you have your eyes open. I understand difference of ideology. Some share a difference of historical fact.
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