| Author | Message | ||
     Ridenusa4l |
least you got yours on the fire sale...mine cost 13k OTD...itll finally be paid off sometime this coming year lol...still an awesome bike and more than enough for the street! Jake | ||
| Fireboltxb9r |
My apologies on the ignorant statement of the RX being "a bit rich for my blood" and mentioning the possibility of picking up a used one for 12K. Just because the current list price may be a bit out of my comfort zone, by no means was it meant to discredit the fabulous job EBR has done with this model. The points (and facts) that Court and Ratbuell make are 100% correct and in reality this bike is very much a bargain taking all relative factors into consideration. I want nothing more than for this bike and all future EBR models to be tremendously successful.  | ||
| 86129squids |
 Ummm, holy crap. "The Elves Are Back." Court, just send that phrase ahead, and allow the copyright $ to accumulate in some little piggybank. I'll collect sometime soon. | ||
| Court |
In all candor . . . the Elves were never gone. In fact, an amazing story had it's genesis within 48 hours of the call I got from Erik in the early morning hours of 10-15-09. Some of the things that took place in the following 4 years are nothing short of amazing. In addition, as the character, determination and resolve in Erik played out, some of them were damn near the ballsiest business moves you could possibly imagine. Like all things Buell, some of the most entertaining tales took place within the early days. Little surprise, in fact zero surprise, to me to see Erik show up at Daytona in a rented 22' Budget box van and the fleet of custom EBR/HERO Racing transporters the following year. The stories of the building, the Rolls-Royce and the engineering demo will need to be told someday. Until then, I am reveling in the celebration of what about a 100 (it's actually over as of about last week, I think) of the most talented folks in the world can do when they they are driven by nothing but "do the absolute best you can do" . . instead of "do whatever you want as long as it mates up to a Sportster air box" or "just don't do anything to make Buell appear more technically advanced than the Softail suspension". Erik Buell and some incredible folks have worked their asses off, mostly 14 hours days, often 7 a week, over the past 4 years. Fresh talent, incredible experience and a shared common thirst to do something that's never been done have collided in a rented building in East Troy. Toss in a group of Indians, who happen to be the largest manufacturer of 2-wheeled vehicles in the world, who have the same steely determination to be the best they can and you begin to see the amazing potential. Somebody as Juneau Avenue if going to loose their bonus over this and I'm sure it's little secret that, if they wanted, HERO could buy Harley-Davidson, lock, stock and barrel, with about 2 days revenue or 15% of last years profits. It's nice to know they'd never pour bleach on a fine meal. No, I think their plans are much bigger. What's occurring is a meeting of the minds and a melding of talent and focus that is driven towards providing the most exciting customer motorcycling experience in history. If you think the bike is cool, wait to you see what owning one is like. The bike is amazing. But . . . the amazing thing is that the company even exists. I expected, having known Erik and the Elves for going on 30 years, nothing less. Congratulations to all the people at East Troy who have worked so hard. You are everything the American Dream should be and I wish nothing but years of continued success. Now . . . I hope they get their butts back to East Troy. I'm looking at the release date for that AX and trying to make sure my piggy bank is ready. Well done to all the people at Erik Buell Racing. Court | ||
| Fb1 |
Well done to all the people at Erik Buell Racing. Amen. "The Elves Are Back." Court is back, too.  | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
my spirit is lifted.... and I am looking forward to motorcycling again! | ||
| Macbuell |
With a young child, I will never be able to afford one or convince the wife that I should have one. That said, I hope they do Demo Days so I can ride one. | ||
| Daves |
Well said Court. Good to see you back. | ||
| Zane |
Wow, the RX is drop dead sexy but not a bike for me. My skill level is average at best and with 185 horse power my life span on that bike would be measured in minutes. I'm quite happy to plod along on my XT. But I can dream... Still just because it's not for me doesn't mean it's not a motorcycle marvel. It's a spectacular machine. Eric and the elves should be proud of what they've done in so short a time. (Message edited by Zane on October 17, 2013) | ||
| Fuzzz |
I noticed this while drooling....The front header appears to be a collector, probably the same for the rear, perhaps this configuration has helped the peak torque figures.... Header on new 1190RX  Header on Slick's 1190RS  | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
I remember when the V Rod came out, it was over 20K and now you can pick one up new for about 14-15K. How much was an RR1000 or RS1200 back in the 80's-90's? | ||
| Court |
Zane: You're both wise and smart. I'm quite well aware that my role will be appreciating and marveling at how this bike came to be, rather than it's actual performance. I've toyed and actually done some looking into buying 3 for rentals but am quite aware it's light years beyond my skill level in my sunset years. But the bike, as you observe, is spectacular and Erik and the Elves, in the face of a great deal of adversity that will some day come to light, have pulled off a modern day entrepreneurial engineering and manufacturing miracle. Court | ||
| Fahren |
BMW HP4 - 179HP - $20,525 Ducati 1199 Panigale R - 195HP - $29,995 Ducati 1199 Panigale S - 195HP - $29,995 2013 KTM 1190 RC8 R: 173 HP/93.7 torque. MRSP: $16,499.  The KTM is a beautiful bike, too. But I think the incredible thing is that Erik has pulled things together and produced a bike that is going to be compared directly with the above "big boys;" Monster companies, in comparison to a certain Troy, WI workshop! Congrats, and may this be the beginning of a great, new chapter. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Interesting, KTM claims the weight of the RC8 "without fuel" is "approximately" 184 kg, which is about 406 pounds. The EBR still has a better power-to-weight ratio though, 0.44 HP/lb vs. 0.426 HP/lb. | ||
| Fahren |
All the above = Faster Than I Can Put to Use  | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Dean, thanks for the photoshop...Looks like a proper Buell without the can | ||
| 86129squids |
One other thing, Court- I'm really ashamed to say I've not yet purchased the first book on Buell that you co-authored, got it on my selfie-Christmas list- obviously, you'll have to get started on the sequel to that one in the not-too-distant future. SUPER good stuff, my Buellin buddies! | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
Ive also been curious as to why the front "header" is designed that way...any word on that?? Jake | ||
| Azxb9r |
One correction to make on the above comparison spec. The BMW HP4 makes 193hp (not 179), and you are not going to touch one for less than $24,000. Something I like about the 1190rx as compared to the 1125r is the way the 1190 takes air for the radiators in from around the front wheel, and vents the hot air out the side "gills". I am sure it makes a difference in the bikes ability to dissipate heat. . .something the 1125 struggles with. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Wonder if we could fit the rads on the 1125R? | ||
| Hughlysses |
Wonder if we could fit the rads on the 1125R? I imagine there's gonna be a lot of interest in radiators, tail section, headlight, and bodywork among 1125R owners. Just need to find a friendly dealer and a tape measure to get started.  (Message edited by Hughlysses on October 17, 2013) | ||
| Steeleagle |
I inquired as to how much of the RS components would mate up with the 1125R at the Feb 2011 rollout of the RS. A credible source (last name Buell) responded succinctly: "Without significant modification...the tires!" The RX might be in the same category, but that's just me talking. | ||
| Froggy |
Most likely yes, but you will need new header, frame, muffler, radiators and oil cooler (obviously), and who knows what else.
Pretty much. Very few parts will bolt right onto our bikes, some will fit with modification, but most of what you see will require extensive modification or replacing parts. | ||
| Bads1 |
You cannot compare to the bikes above. You can compare to a base Pangale and a base BMW S1000 and a base RC8. These 3 bikes can be bought at this moment 3-4 grand less at this time locally here in Wisconsin spec wise some of them have ABS and traction control stock as base. | ||
| Sifo |
I bet the turn signals would swap fairly easily. I'm kind of surprised that the RS doesn't come with LED signals though. | ||
| Court |
>>>>"Without significant modification...the tires!" That's an accurate statement. Harley-Davidson Inc. owns the right to ALL the parts (around 900 of them) on the 1125. One of the huge challenges EBR faced was, literally and figuratively, starting from scratch and not being able to use ANYTHING they didn't have free and clear IP rights to. This was a total win-win as each part got subjected to a "what did we learn? . . where did we have to compromise? . . what would we do if we were set free and our only constraint was to do the absolute best we could?" process. I can tell you one thing with great confidence. You can not, at this time, buy a better sport bike than the EBR 1190RX. It's pure, it's engineered and it's been tested in ways that no motorcycle has ever been tested. It's what about 100 really sharp folks (heck, even Donna is back) have always wanted to do and we never able to. The leash is loose. Court P.S. - you will soon, I suspect, be learning that any concerns about customer support will be melted away. Unlike other motorcycle companies in WI, run by executives who have never ridden a motorcycle or had to tolerate a dealer's shit, the folks at EBR ride. | ||
| Bads1 |
Court now now many ride at HD as well. Funny I remember a day when you spoke highly of how HD ran things. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
If some of the comments I've read over on Facebook and on various motorcycle boards are any indication EBR has a hard road ahead of it. I sure hope the foray into WSB goes well. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
I guess I can make engine sounds in my full face helmet while riding my XB12X (w/specops) and the combination will hopefully simulate the 1190 engine.  | ||
| Xdigitalx |
All those bashing the 1190RX probably voted for Obama......... TWICE! |
