| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
NOT the governor of NY... http://youtu.be/qKtFvCvmrFE AR10 looks like. | ||
| Aesquire |
Looks like a LaRue, made in Texas. http://www.laruetactical.com/predatobr-762-16inch I'd like one of those. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/347263/disho nest-gun-control-debate | ||
| Kenm123t |
Perry gets it its not about 30 rounds for a Deer That's Yankee shootin Perry knows 30 rounds = 1 round per varmit!   | ||
| Aesquire |
The 20 round magazines aren't for deer! ( the 7.62's use a 20 ) That's for competition, and Boar! ( Pigs are tough! ) Not the Governor of NY? Preaching to the Choir Brother! | ||
| Hootowl |
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/05/06/shots-fired -from-world-first-3d-printed-gun/?intcmp=features *********************** New York congressman Steve Israel has already called for national legislation to ban 3D-printed guns. In a statement last week he said: "Security checkpoints, background checks, and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print plastic firearms at home and bring those firearms through metal detectors with no one the wiser. "When I started talking about the issue of plastic firearms months ago, I was told the idea of a plastic gun is science-fiction. "Now that this technology is proven, we need to act now to extend the ban on plastic firearms." ************************* Right, because criminals will NOT print their guns once you make it illegal to do so. Idiot. I don't think he understands what it is that law breakers do. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
In The Line Of Fire | ||
| Aesquire |
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/06/inhofe-obama-adm inistration-trying-to-dry-up-ammo-supply-audio/ I really don't have the heart to tell Steve Israel, or Sen. Chuck-you Shumer, that any competent machinist can make a gun. The "3d-printed" gun is, well, a stunt. The HARD parts, as they have been for FIVE HUNDRED YEARS, are the barrel, and the locking mechanism. ( bolt, etc. ) Unless you are talking about the imaginary movie assassination gun from "In The Line Of Fire", http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107206/?ref_=fn_al_tt _1 those parts are unlikely to be plastic, this week. If you have a metal sintering 3d printer it's probable that you have the rest of the machines to make darn near anything. You also have enough money to go buy a gun. | ||
| Sifo |
Unless you are talking about the imaginary movie assassination gun from "In The Line Of Fire", http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107206/?ref_=fn_al_tt _1 those parts are unlikely to be plastic, this week. Actually, as of this week (today as a matter of fact), those parts are plastic! | ||
| Aesquire |
Proven dead wrong upon actually viewing facts.....  I'm behind in my materials study, obviously. | ||
| Blake |
Don't need a 3-D printer to make a zip gun. Is it really all plastic? No metal spring or firing pin? | ||
| Just_ziptab |
I'm thinking a "V" or flat plastic spring would have enuf poop to pop a primer. Especially with a light weight plastic firing pin.Longevity is probably pretty weak......./ | ||
| Sifo |
They are claiming no metal parts. It's only a proof of concept thing. I have to agree that durability is likely an issue. Accuracy may be in question too IMO. Still, you can no longer say that it can't be done. That's always a critical first step.  | ||
| Ulyranger |
It's true that any decent machinist can/could produce a firearm with ease. Quality dependent on skill, materials available and such. What is the big news here? .......anyone with the cash to buy a 3d printer can make one......no real skills required. What makes it game changing tech is that regardless of what ridiculous "common sense" gun bans get enacted the ability of mass production of banned items is now merely a mouse click away. No worries of importation bans, serialized tracing of ownership/manufacture, 4473s............. IOW an end around on Big Brother looking over your shoulder.... In the big picture view, no real change here. If there is a need/desire man will find a way to promote freedom.... I bet there is all sorts of conversations in DC regarding how to shut down C.W. I do hope he has eyes in the back of his head...... | ||
| Sifo |
They are already looking to make it illegal to print a gun. That way only criminals will print guns. It really makes one wonder what it must be like to live inside of such a mind. | ||
| Oldog |
It really makes one wonder what it must be like to live inside of such a mind. Hint go home and dump every thing that you own in your living room floor ( include kitchen ) open all containers. Stir it up then try to re-organize it ... Seriously it appears that there is no long term thinking done by many its about "right now". Schumer, & Isreal are examples of the process, with a dose of "I need to keep my job", ( I wont go into other possible motivations ) Most folks who espouse that mind set, don't think all of the ramifications of such things as national background checks or national registry. The right now "Do Something" mind set demands action at once, and the consequences of the action can be dealt with by some one else later. They never ask questions like: Why did the founding fathers put the second amendment into the constitution?, Do they notice how simply its worded?, They are to busy, to spend time considering the possible outcomes. Was it Jefferson? who said "The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots" or some thing on these lines ... I think in the end the founders were fearful of "public servants" who were in the capital not to serve but to enrich them selves, and to press their agenda. Both are rampant today....... | ||
| Fb1 |
I think in the end the founders were fearful of "public servants" who were in the capital not to serve but to enrich them selves, and to press their agenda. The Founders had just fought a long, bloody war to secure their (our) independence from just such tyranny. The Founders were also students of history. Our current pres has been invoking the Founders a lot lately, desperately trying to put a tune-up on his image, I guess. Our current pres is EXACTLY the kind of cretin the Founders fought and died to secure our liberty from. The Constitution and Bill of Rights were written to protect us from the likes of our current pres. The 2nd Amendment has never been more important in the history of this nation than it is right now. It's the ONLY thing that stands in the way of absolute tyranny by the White House, which explains why they're working so hard to destroy our inalienable right to keep and bear arms. With that protection gone, our submission would be complete. Heavy sigh: We're only several months into the emperor's second term. Damn. Look at all the fresh damage he's done is such a short amount of time. I wonder what's next from the dictator-in-chief??  | ||
| Reindog |
I moved my insightful commentary to "President 0" cuz I went OT in this thead. (Message edited by reindog on May 07, 2013) | ||
| Fb1 |
Emphasis mine.
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| Aesquire |
http://www.policymic.com/articles/23929/10-surpris ing-facts-about-the-nra-that-you-never-hear Notice #3. The D' party's dislike for the NRA dates from the post Civil War days when the NRA helped against the action arm of the Democrat Party, the KKK. This is, and always has been, a civil rights issue. The D's passed laws long before the Civil War to ban slaves from having guns. After the war they pushed many laws to keep the freed slaves from having guns. They still do today, and they are not going to stop. One law, now a bit obsolete, ( but I bet, still on the books, somewhere ) required that no one buy other than MILITARY pistols, ( at the time the Colt 1851/1860/etc. ) in an attempt to price guns too high for poor people. Much later, in the 1960's, they passed a "Saturday Night Special" law, again banning the cheapest guns and putting arbitrary checklists of ( Mostly ) COSMETIC features ( like a thumb rest on the grip ) for imported firearms. Today's "Assault Weapons" bans are almost entirely based on arbitrary cosmetic features. For the Collectors and Enthusiasts out there, know that recently a great many rifles that were to be re-imported from Korea have been blocked by Barry and his Weasels from returning home, offering us a glimpse of History, and helping our Korean Friends pay for their own military, without taxpayer money. I for one am dismayed by this last. My Father fought in Korea, as a Hospital Corpsman ( which I know how to pronounce ) attached to the Marines. He had to walk a long way with upset people trying to kill him. The N Korean and Chinese Soldiers during this time targeting medics. I once owned, and gave away, a Mosin Nagant, held in my hands, and fired, a weapon used by brave Soviet Patriots to defend Stalingrad, Moscow, and fight fascism. Learning to use, strip and clean this relic was a history lesson not easily taught with books. The smells, the frustration, ( ever clean Roosky Cosmoline? ) the physical sensations, you can't get from a documentary. I very much wanted to do that with a weapon the Marines around my Father used. | ||
| Thumper1203 |
Hear ye, hear ye.. Dan Bongino, former US Secret Service Agent and former US Senate Candidate speaks at the Annapolis, MD Guns Across America Rally... What an important message he has to share.. | ||
| Thumper1203 |
And the latest from GOA.. Gun Owners of America Senators may resurrect defeated gun control after making cosmetic changes "A source close to the Senate negotiations [says] that two senators who voted against the background check bill would vote for it after minor, superficial changes." — Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC, May 6, 2013 ACTION: Senators who voted pro-gun last month are under intense pressure by Senate Democrats and Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s hit ads to switch their votes. We need to keep applying the heat and let them know that gun owners are ready to help in any Senate campaign, no matter which state, to defeat ANY SENATOR who votes for gun control. LEGISLATIVE UPDATE FROM WASHINGTON, DC. It’s not over yet. We can’t give up. We won a dramatic victory last month. But the Left has not raised the white flag yet, and they are using out-of-state rabble rousers to harass Senators who voted against the Toomey-Schumer-Manchin national gun registry just a couple of weeks ago. It is a national gun registry because the Obama administration is copying the names of gun purchasers from 4473's when it conducts its annual inspections of gun shops. If everyone has to have a 4473 when they buy a gun — even through most private sales — then everyone will be in the Obama administration's database. Few things are more hypocritical than the spectacle of gun-grabbers whining that they don't support national gun registries just as they get off Air Force One on a trip from Hartford, Connecticut where they cheered the enactment of a state gun registry. THE BULLYING IS CONTINUING. Senate Democrats are bullying the Senators who voted correctly on Toomey-Manchin-Schumer. Those who are under the most pressure to switch their votes are: Alaska Mark Begich (202) 224-3004 Lisa Murkowski (202) 224-6665 Arizona Jeff Flake (202) 224-4521 Georgia Saxby Chambliss (202) 224-3521 Johnny Isakson (202) 224-3643 Montana Max Baucus (202) 224-2651 North Dakota Heidi Heitkamp (202) 224-2043 New Hampshire Kelly Ayotte (202) 224-3324 Nevada Dean Heller (202) 224-6244 Ohio Rob Portman (202) 224-3353 Tennessee Lamar Alexander (202) 224-4944 Bob Corker (202) 224-3344 If your Senator is a Republican, or is mentioned in the list above, it is imperative that you contact them again! Right now, there are several Public Policy Polling surveys that claim Senators who voted pro-gun have lost public support. It’s hogwash! Gun owners can click here to read GOA’s analysis of why these PPP polls are fiction. These polls are nothing more than a ploy to sway weak-knee Senators into reversing their votes. Some Senators are even beginning to wonder if they are going to be punished at the polls for voting pro-gun. And that’s why we need you right now to stay active and engaged in this fight. CONTACT INFO: Contact your Senators, if possible, at 202-224-3121. Jam their phone lines. If it is not possible for you to call, then use the prewritten letter we have provided to e-mail them. Tell them to vote against the expansion of background checks as they will allow for the registration of gun owners. And let them know that gun owners are ready to help in any Senate campaign, no matter which state, to defeat ANY SENATOR who votes for gun control. Click here to send your Senators a pre-written email message. http://gunowners.org/ | ||
| Fb1 |
Thumper, thank you for your ongoing contributions to this thread. I posted up some positive stuff here on BWB re: Dan Bongino in the run-up to the elections last November. He's the real deal, a true patriot, and it's quite inspiring to listen to him speak. At the 3:43 mark in the video you embedded he puts into a few brief words something I find quite profound but have never been able to verbalize to my satisfaction. He does so simply, but with passion and conviction:
Our Founders were remarkable men. Mr. Bongino strikes me as cut from the same cloth. Thanks again. FB | ||
| Cityxslicker |
its a two for one ! Now that you can 'print' guns - it is time to limit the first amendment - the 'free' press was never that you should be able to own news paper = it is for the freedom of ideas, dissemination, and operating outside of the government/politique led media mantra - freedom of expression - in all forms, verbal, visual, spatial and if the Libtards can piss in a jar with cross and call it freedom of speech you are g-d right that I am going to call a printed gun as freedom of speech. F- them, every last m-fing one of them. PS - I understand California already wants to ban the printers, and register those that have downloaded the program. | ||
| Fb1 |
On May 7, Piers Morgan was honored in Beverly Hills at an event hosted by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. The CNN host was awarded the Sarah Brady Visionary Award. Insert "puke" emoticon here: _____ | ||
| Thumper1203 |
Our Founders were remarkable men Fb.. I agree, whole-heartedly.. P.M, that overpaid whiney redcoat can go back to where he came from.. (although I do hear he is not welcome anymore http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/26/piers-mor gan-counter-petition_n_2365200.html). An award you say? maybe for the rudest debate style of all time would be fitting.. | ||
| Oldog |
On May 7, Piers Morgan was honored in Beverly Hills at an event hosted by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. The CNN host was awarded the Sarah Brady Visionary Award. I'm with you Ferris, But some random thoughts from my insomnia. Re: James Brady, badly maimed from gun shot wound to head.( Like Gabby Giffords ) BUT Regan was shot too, he did not try to repeal the second amend. Or do much more than make an occasional joke, Morgan & The Brady outfit The second rate honoring the second rate Why even waste time on this self important twit, he is less relevant than Chris Matthews. Look at the personalities that they (CNN / MSNBC/CBS/NBC/ABC) tout, Like Joy Behar, Piers Morgan, "Wolf Blitzer", Nancy Grace, Would it be unreasonable that once a media outlet (CNN / MSNBC/CBS/NBC/ABC) sells out they become irrelevant?, You can't trust them to report the facts so why waste the time on them or their personalities. News, the net, Fox, and Cspan sadly no Cspan3, I would love to watch Cspan coverage of the Bengazi hearings, I sat and watched the Air Force Appropriations committee hearings, all they seemed to want to talk about was Sexual Assault. The rep from Oklahoma was hinting about keeping folks at Tinker, working (KC 135) repair & Upgrade depot, This was painful to watch..... I also watched the immigration amendment debate, the dems are wanting those green cards handed out and NOW. I watched Chuck Shumer D-NY in action Lots of weasel wording. I watched Graham of SC and others, The Capital must be no smoking with all of the GAS flying around } | ||
| Fb1 |
I would love to watch Cspan coverage of the Bengazi hearings C-SPAN3 showed the hearings; I posted up a link the other day. I'm reading there will be more hearings (as well there should be). Do you know that when Hitlary FINALLY testified before Congress, it wasn't under oath? Sigh, what does it matter... Governor Huckabee predicts 0bama will not finish out his term due to the Benghazi scandal. I pray he's correct. Re: the entertainers in the mainstream "news," they are nearly 100% corrupt. I *think* Jake Tapper from ABC is on our side, and I note that Sharyl Attkisson from CBS is taking major heat for actually reporting the truth about the Benghazi cover-up, as opposed to the whitewash we're being presented by her fellow colleagues at Pravda. Perhaps she is the next Woodward... | ||
| Fb1 |
Actually, as of this week (today as a matter of fact), those parts are plastic! Sifo, did you see where the White House swooped down on this yesterday? Feds Pull 3D-Printed Gun Design from Web http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/09 /State-Department-Pulls-3D-Gun-Content | ||
| Sifo |
Modern day book burning. It really doesn't matter though, it was just a proof of concept gun and the horse is out of the barn. |
