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     Sifo |
I'm really trying to grasp if this is a normal thought process for the liberal mind. Salon is after all a well known liberal magazine. Do they speak for you? Let’s hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American | ||
| Oldog |
After scanning about 3 seconds 1. Fundimental diff between bin laddin and mcvey bin laden leader and spokes person for large terror group mcvey and one other person built the truck bomb the author has an obvious bias ... Do they speak for me?, only if I have gas....( noise from my arse ) Liberals[lefties] / think are mutually exclusive IMO (Message edited by oldog on April 17, 2013) | ||
| Oldog |
this is close, IIRC Mccaskil is the dem who had the melt down gun moment recently. The letter to the Mississippi Republican was intercepted at an off-site mail screening facility. Authorities declined to comment on a suspect or any other aspect of the investigation being led by Capitol Police, but Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., told the Associated Press police have a suspect in mind. yeah that is the way to conduct business alert the person of interest, how did that woman get elected? Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/17/envelop e-containing-ricin-sent-to-sen-wicker-lawmakers-sa y/#ixzz2QjjOv2um } | ||
| Sifo |
OK Oldog, I didn't think they would speak for you. I really wonder if the liberal mind buys into this though. Just another example, from CNN; first two paragraphs...
Much farther down in the article they make it clear that the right wing extremist(s) that they have in mind, who adopted this "al Qaeda recipe" is the 1996 Olympic bomber. I really don't remember the motivation of that bombing, but tying this to current events seems to be a huge stretch. It would be a much easier stretch to point to Robert Redford glorifying the Weather Underground bombing with a recent movie, and making statements about how he admired what they did. Of course with zero evidence at this point as to who actually did this bombing in Boston, it seems a fools errand to try to tie it to any political ideology. | ||
| Reepicheep |
The olympic bomber was Eric(?) Rudolph, and I believe it was motivated by an anti-abortion agenda. It's interesting that no one (to my knowledge) has claimed responsibility. Or at least that it hasn't been reported. And maybe not reporting people who had responsibility for something like this is the right thing to do (provided it is voluntary). | ||
| Hootowl |
Ah, that old chestnut. McVeigh=organized group of militant islamic extremists bent on the killing of all non believers. I can't quite comprehend the mind that can make that connection. There sure are quite a few folks out there doing it though. The author is right about one thing though; the left is hoping against all hope that this was done by a white Christian American. It will fit nicely with their narrative about who the real threat is. | ||
| Froggy |
Well before today I never heard of the Salon. While I am not really a "liberal", I can say that no, they do not speak for me. There is just something wrong about saying that some publication speaks for someone, like they do not have their own thoughts and views, and are just sheep. Regarding who may or may not have did the bombing, I understand the logic that it may be a white person, but I can just as easily see it being someone of any race. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Good thing that moron only had access to gunpowder and not something with Nitrogen triple bonds like dynamite or C4 or RDX. | ||
| Britchri10 |
I'm Liberal on some issues, not on others. Does Salon speak for me? Not on your life (or mine.) It's a magazine w/contributors who have an agenda to promote. If anyone lets anything "speak for them" then they are not actually making any kind of decision for themselves. I speak for myself. I believe what I believe and that may or may not coincide with others beliefs. I don't "belong" to any particular group & I have no affiliations to any one group or the other. I prefer to make my own mind up after careful reflection on the facts, not on what are be purported to be the facts. I'm Liberal minded but my views would fall more in line with the "don't mess with me & mine & we'll all be OK" school of life. Chris C | ||
| Sifo |
So I guess I shouldn't have used the phrase "do they speak for you". The question is still out there though, do you think this way. I'm really having a difficult time with a statement like this one from the first article...
Really? That's white privilege? I don't know why I'm continually amazed by this, I should really get used to it, but I so often see statements from liberals that are incredibly devoid of rational though connected to reality. Here's another example from Chris Matthews claiming "domestic terrorists tend to be far right". I guess he's been too busy point fingers at the far right to notice that most of the mass killing in recent years, when the perpetrator has a clear political leaning, it's to the left. The point here should be that right now we know zero about who did this bombing in Boston, much less anything about his political leanings, or "white privilege". All of this is devoid of any facts at all. I can only assume that a significant portion of the left likes this sort of "reporting" given that people actually consume this garbage. | ||
| Froggy |
Sifo, you can take any number of numerous sources, and say the same thing, regardless if they are left leaning or right leaning. The beauty of the internet today is the variety of sources out there, some that are less biased than others.
Honestly, you can take most of your post, change the word "left" to "right", change the name of the source and it still applies. Stupid people quite frankly are stupid, and come in all shapes, sizes, colors, religion, and political leaning. I saw a right leaning person on Facebook wanting to nuke Saudi Arabia over this. | ||
| Sifo |
Froggy, I'm not giving examples of someone on Facebook saying something stupid. I'm giving examples of top new networks making claims that are completely devoid of fact. Are there examples of right wing news agencies (I guess that would be Fox) claiming it's likely to be a left wing wacko? Please show me where I'm wrong. | ||
| Blake |
The right wing nuts and left wing nuts typically target govt. facilities. Islamist fascists and other psychopaths typically target civilians. | ||
| Froggy |
Possibly. I honestly haven't looked. With enough people publishing enough articles I'm sure you can find something somewhere that says what you want. I don't really have time to check the news these days, even my Badweb time is next to nothing as of late. Also, you mention the Salon as a top news agency, personally I would disagree, and a quick look at their Wikipedia page tells me it isn't a place I would be getting any sort of news from. They admit they are a progressive leaning political tabloid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salon_Magazine | ||
| Aesquire |
Well, as a Social Liberal, No. Salon Does Not Squeek For ME. I'm also a Fiscal Conservative, A Hawk, and A Conservationist. ( in other words, don't attack us, don't wreck the planet, and I don't care what you screw, just don't make us pay for it ) I'm still somewhat annoyed at Rush ( the rich radio guy ) for using the term "liberal", when what he really means is "neo-commie". I suppose it's not all his fault, since the Progressives have taken to using the term liberal to describe themselves. ( and Rush really is often ignorant of what he speaks ) Way back in High School, I did a term paper on Communism. Wrote to the nice folk at CPUSA, told them I was Writing a paper for school, and wanted to know more about their cause. They were quite helpful, and turned me on to Alinsky. Some of the pamphlets and books the Communist Party sent me are probably still used in that class today. I suspect the paper I wrote will never see the light of day. It's actually simple. Leftists lie. They have to. No one would be happy if they told the truth about their motivations, their methods, the goals, or the truth. So they can't tell you they follow a man made religion whose goal is to allow a small group of evil men rule a vast number of slaves. They can't tell you that everything they do is meant to ruin your life so you have to turn to the Holy State to live. They can't tell you that every time the high minded platitudes and foggy promises made in their propaganda "come true" that death camps, secret police, and children informing on their parents are the signs of "success". But that's what happens. And THEY are the ones that keep repeating, like a mantra, "It can't happen here". So YES. This is How Leftists Think. And Speak. They speak to those who never learned in school that Mao murdered hundreds of millions of people to stay in power. Those who never learned what the Constitution means. They speak to your neighbors and children. | ||
| Sifo |
Froggy, here's the thing, I'm not searching out this stuff. It's just out there. It's funny that of the examples I provided, you focus on the most obscure (which is still a well known liberal rag). Certainly CNN and MSNBC are anything but obscure. I did throw it out there to prove it is going on from right wing sources. You give "possibly". I wouldn't have asked if it weren't possible. As a member of the right wing extremists though, I should be very in tune with Fox News, and I have not seen any of this speculation, certainly not from any of their major personalities. Your defense of liberal thought is helping to convince me that this sort of thing is acceptable to the liberal mind. Thanks for helping me out. For a while I though I might have been confused. | ||
| Sifo |
Aesquire, you are one of the few liberal that I have come to respect.  | ||
| Froggy |
No, I only focused on what you focused on. I have no idea what MSNBC and CNN think of the issue, I honestly have not looked, and it probably is more crap reporting anyway.
I can't prove what I haven't looked into. I honestly don't know where to look either if Fox hasn't done it as you claim. I've seen them post way out there and outlandish things in the past, but I know nothing regarding the Boston incident. Perhaps there are some more tabloidish conservative news sites with their own opinion pieces, but I don't know what they are.
I never said any of it was acceptable. I didn't read the entire Salon posting, but I didn't agree with what I have read. It looks like its another garbage opinion piece with a shocking headline to garner page views and advertising money. That said, I am sure there are morons who buy it hook, line, and sinker. | ||
| Sifo |
Well Froggy, perhaps reading the thread before yapping your flap will lead to less ignorant conversation on your part. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Real Question Is Are liberals capable of thought? Example liberals wanted Obama care LOLOL | ||
| Blake |
When emotion governs thought, nonsense often results. Stir in some self-loathing and guilt to arrive at today's garden variety punitive liberalism in America. Truly wretched. | ||
| Sifo |
Good to see that they caught the guy sending ricin letters to elected officials. I wonder if this picture of him will make the rounds of the MSM?  Probably doesn't fit their narrative. | ||
| Hootowl |
Sure it does. He's a radical Christian fundamentalist. Never mind that he is not following the fundamental teachings of the religion of which he claims to be an adherent. That'll get buried at the end of the article and then clipped to make space. | ||
| Reindog |
Liberals are DoublePlusGoodQuackThinkers. Ignorance is Strength. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Orwell pegged it. | ||
| Oldog |
Rein That is so disturbing and so seemingly true | ||
| Sifo |
There is good news at least. They are circulating pictures of "persons of interest" that had backpacks, then didn't have them any more. Someone is bound to know who they are. Odd that they don't appear to be the white, middle aged, gun owners that I had in mind.  http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/feds_have_me n_in_sights_j43UJwXZncr0wmysU42scJ  | ||
| Oldog |
Amazing, well done!, why cant we get to the bottom of the Bengazi fiasco any where near this quick? | ||
| Sifo |
why cant we get to the bottom of the Bengazi fiasco any where near this quick? John Kerry On Benghazi: "We Got A Lot More Important Things To Move On To" I wonder...  | ||
| Oldog |
John Kerry On Benghazi: "We Got A Lot More Important Things To Move On To" Cover for Hillary, Cover for Barry. Cant fix it with these parts to be sure. } | ||
| Sifo |
There's some pretty damn strange stuff coming out of the marathon bombing. At first I really thought it was nothing more than conspiracy theory stuff. I'm not so sure any more. The first person of interest, it would seem is getting deported. The details surrounding this are being classified. This guy is apparently very well connected in Saudi Arabia. You can read about all of this here... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/18/report- saudi-national-ruled-out-as-suspect-in-boston-mara thon-bombings-to-be-deported-on-national-security- grounds-next-week/ Like I said, this sounds like a lot of conspiracy theory connecting of dots at this point. Then you read about this... Obama meets with Saudi foreign minister, discusses Syria It seems this meeting was NOT on BO's schedule. Something is beginning to smell. |
