| Author | Message | ||
     Gregtonn |
Me? BLR .22. G | ||
| D_adams |
Ruger 10/22 with a good scope would probably be at the top of my list. Small, lightweight and effective, plus ammo is relatively cheap. | ||
| Sifo |
The one you got! A good .22 rifle would be great to have though. A 10/22 is always a good standby. | ||
| Aesquire |
My choice has long been the 10/22. List of whys is long, aftermarket support, reliability, etc. etc. However. The BLR has a good rep. tube magazine pulls it out of gun propaganda ban fever for a few months if not a year or so. Speaking plainly, the 10/22 is a banned weapon in concept if not in fact in NY, due to the deliberate choice of magazine capacity limits. That is deliberate. It's too damn good a weapon. They mean to ban everything as fast as possible while they ride the wave of willing propaganda from all sides of the media. From every scripted anti gun reference in the news to the cover of Time Magazine with "Man Superman Gunman", we are seeing a full court press of agitprop not seen since the 60's and 70's. ( after all the folk running the networks were the stoners of that era. ) So, for today, if not next week, you actually CAN buy the BLR. Next year? A partial list of scary name weapons to be banned, ( per the Brady Campaign ) is... Assault Weapon. ( Fabricated name and meaning. It's anything you want, that is even vaguely military looking) Sniper Rifle. ( you know, with optics? Anything with optics ) Sawed Off Shotgun. ( any shotgun + hacksaw =........ It's a straw man, but hey, it'll work ) Assassination Weapon. ( another Fabricated name. .22 rimfires. Reputed to be assassination weapons ) Thats' the list from the 1970's. Today we must add "Automatic" ( also semiautomatic & auto ) as the buzzword, to make something an "Assault weapon" or in deliberate confusion with machine gun. "no one needs a machine gun to hunt deer" Great combination of strawman argument, deliberate misleading by confusion of definitions, and again, a full court script reading by the "media". So they WILL ban the BLR as soon as they can. So get 'em while they're still here. If you have a revolver that matches the lever gun, that's even better. ( breaks the "one gun" question, I admit ) | ||
| Aesquire |
Sorry if that cames across as a rant. Just want to support the BLR as a possibility that the Ruger may not be. You can love the P90 ( or any other restricted weapon, like the Gatling Gun from "Predator" ) but if you can't have one, it's not a choice. | ||
| Gregtonn |
I like the Ruger 10/22 as well but the BLR doesn't care what ammo you use, from .22 shorts to high velocity .22. You can even mix them in the same loading. In more than 35 years I've never had a FTL (failure to load/feed) or FTF (failure to fire). The short lever travel of the BLR also allows near semi-auto speed for those so inclined. The other thing is that there are trillions of rounds available for it throughout the entire world. G | ||
| Woody1911a1 |
tough decision between 1911 in 45acp or 10mm | ||
| Rick_a |
Something like this would be good.  | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Gun-bearers....I will need. sigh.........  | ||
| 6gears |
Depends on lots of different situations....but.... AA12!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8 | ||
| 6gears |
I am also quite proud of my .225, but ammo will become an issue with it at EOW. | ||
| Panhead_dan |
6gears, That vid was bad ass!! "There is nothing deadlier than a Russian with two AA12's. Don't try this at home, I am professional Russian." That guy is awesome. | ||
| Ninefortheroad |
AR in 223/5.56 or AK in 7.62 x 39 Very common and very reliable with a good balance of firepower and weight | ||
| Aesquire |
Rick a, I only recently learned how to shoot one of those AR pistols. You use it like a rifle. Tucking the buffer tube into the shoulder. ( if it's in 5.56, the recoil is small, not so nice a bruise maker if in .50 Beowulf ) As a pistol, it's fun, but I, Myself, have a lack of talent when it comes to swiftly and accurately aiming pistol gripped shotguns or the AR & AK pistols when held as a pistol. ( even with 2 hands ) Perhaps you can do far better in "pistol mode" than I can, I'm a mediocre shot, it pains me to say. For legal reasons, a rifle is easier to buy than a pistol in many places. Also, a 16 1/2 inch barrel gives you enough better ballistics that a civilian legal M4 "clone" ( 16+" barrel, folding stock, semiauto ) is for most a better choice than an AR pistol. YMMV, you may be much better than I at that type of weapon. ( I suck at them. ) Now...... if "..it all went h...?" means the end of rational law enforcement, ( eaten by zombies/burned in meteoric holocaust ) then it's hard to beat an AA-12. ( I see no reason not to make AA-12's in semi-auto only except for some irrational laws. Full auto has limited use, and the ammo load can get out of hand. The Marines have proven, time and time again, that a guy who aims wins over a guy with a machine gun spraying & praying. ( hard on the crowd though ) The low recoil of the AA-12's continuous recoil system would make a great Turkey or Zombie gun in Semi-auto. ) Of course, if there is no Big Sis to hit me with a drone strike for carrying a banned weapon, the Ruger 10/22 goes back to the top of my list. The BLR is as Gregtonn says, a fine choice. | ||
| Fast1075 |
I'm in on the 22LR. But mine is a Marlin Model 60 with a Nikon 3-9 x 40 scope. Stone reliable, eats anything, and is amazingly accurate. The tube mag is out of the way, and loads quickly with my custom speedloaders. And I have a Ruger SR22p. Light, compact, reliable. 10 +1, and with different mag followers, 14 rounds. With a 3.5" barrel, it isn't exactly a tack driver. But accurate enough for it's intended purpose. A really sweet little pistol unless you have sasquatch hands. | ||
| 6gears |
I also liked the part about the pointed end for holding against a door, LOL. I think it would be awesome to have 4 or 5 magazines each with different loads for different situations. | ||
| Stalker |
I'll be comfortable with my FAL, or M14. I would prefer to keep the threat at a distance, or end the threat with one shot. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
depends on your version of hell Mine requires a 12 gauge - preferably the KSG ,or better the AA12, but the Saiga would work great too, I figure with the shotty - I can get what I need from where I need when I need it. It didn't let me down overseas - and it is my stand by. | ||
| Fahren |
Forgive my ignorance, but is there some confusion above, between the BLR - using a box magazine and more flexible choice of ammo - and a simple, tube magazine BL? | ||
| Gregtonn |
Sorry for the confusion Fahren. Yes, technically, Browning does refer to it's centerfire lever action rifles as BLR and the rimfire .22 rifles as BL. I was referring to the .22 rimfire lever gun. Therefor a BL with a tube magazine. G | ||
| Cityxslicker |
interesting. http://youtu.be/3l4PBOQT1dg more shotgun options. | ||
| Nukeblue |
easy. ar in 223/5.56. if you need a squirrel, blow it's head clean off (less suffering for the little thing  ). you can drop a deer instantly with a proper shot. if fending off mulitples, you have a light weapon with capability to hold many rounds. ammo is normally common. love the m1a/30 cal but it's hard to compare if you could only have one | ||
| Bob_thompson |
With the utmost of respect guys but I would not want just one gun for a SHTF scenario. I have never thought much of do all type of things, they never do precisely what you want to very well. With that said I would want a nice hp rifle, for all type of threats, man or beast and big game food dispatching, one pistol, large caliber for the same at close range and probably a nice accurate .22 pistol for small game taking for food also. All quite packable. These would all be in bug out bags with ammo and survival gear including a bag with food, medical gear and survival type things. If time permitted I would also probably "head for the hills" to stay away from any direct confrontation with those meaning to change my life significantly......... Wait I already have these things never mind. | ||
| Aesquire |
Bob, I agree that the "one gun" argument is limited and eternal. That's why it's fun. You're never going to have folk agree on a "Best movie of all time", but we could probably pare down the top 17 with general agreement and minority complaint. Ditto survival guns. Your mix seems near ideal, Long gun, 2 pistols in center and rimfire. Others might argue for shotgun instead of the .22 pistol. I may just lean your way. Classic Zombie Apocalypse is the most fun to argue, but the lack of limitations means I can desire a M-60 machine gun and rationalize it as a salvage item. However you have to achieve the survival to get the salvage, so it makes more sense to discuss real world scenarios, even though they are more unpleasant than a ZA. So, nature of apocalypse can change your choices and options. Civil unrest/tyranny scenarios would emphasize concealment to fire power rationality calculus differently than Natural disasters? In some cases, If you can hole up for up to a few weeks you can miss the excitement of the massive traffic jams, fallout, drifting poison gas, etc. In that case you have access to the home arsenal. Yea. In other cases it's grab the survival pack with some tools food aid camp gear ( I'm big on space blankets ) and What fits in the hand on the way out the door. Can't assume a car gun, house gun, or backup gun unless your parters are packing or capable of pack mule duty. Can't assume that. One gun, to start the Bad TImes. ( I much enjoy the 3 gun, and X gun discussions too. I learn a lot ) | ||
| 99savage |
Absent marauding zombies, unchained biker gangs, wild boars or ATF agents behaving badly would grab the Stevens 22/410 (wishing it was 22/20ga.) - Recently discovered it had one more trick in its elderly bones. Picked up some 3" #0 410 buck and @ 25yd, dead center hits w/ hand sized patterns. But for any situation can actually foresee probably go w/ Mossberg 12ga pump gun that includes removable choke tube & rifle type sights - Boring. | ||
| Aesquire |
Boring? Yes, but it fits the KISS principal nicely, and is good for almost all critters on the Continent. (at maderate range ) Try out the new Winchester PDX .410 round. With Dragon Ball Z destructo discs. | ||
| Nukeblue |
yeah if shtf and you only have one gun you're not ready! lol | ||
| Fahren |
yeah if shtf and you only have one gun you're not ready! lol Better than none, though, I'd guess :- ) | ||
| Blake |
Ever see the chamber/barrel inserts that allow you to shoot just about any caliber you like from a 12 gage shotgun? If things ever got truly medieval, it would seem valuable to be able to go muzzle-loader. The PSE 50 LB compound might be very handy. Does an air rifle count? Great for small game. | ||
| Jramsey |
Years ago Carlos Halthcock was asked this question in an interview and his reply was... " with a Ruger 10/22 I can get any gun I need". |
