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Firemanjim
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 03:34 pm: |
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Like to do some of my own stuff but not sure if any of these things work at all. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 03:40 pm: |
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I have not, though from what I understand, the impediment is not the quality of the kits, it is the size of your oven. |
Kenm123t
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 04:08 pm: |
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Harbor freight used to have an oven for sale on line Women hate the smell in the kitchen. |
Woody1911a1
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 05:14 pm: |
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yes , a friend and i who shared a shop used the eastwood basic kit and it worked great . very professional results . you're only limited by the size of your oven as others have said . do not use any oven you intend to ever cook in again . |
Nik
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 05:58 pm: |
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I use the harbor fright kit with a toaster oven. It works great. I've used the Eastwood kit as well, and I didn't notice much difference between the two when using the same powder. I do wish I had a bigger oven though. |
Hybridmomentspass
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 06:15 pm: |
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nik - very interesting that you can use a toaster oven they are small, inexpensive, but, of course, limited on size. But for many bike parts, would be great these kits from HF - how much and what else would you need to do the stuff? |
Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 06:20 pm: |
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Who has powder coated over chrome? Do you need to scuff it first? |
Bads1
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 06:26 pm: |
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Sifo, They need to be scuffed. 120 WET/DRY sandpaper. |
Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 06:35 pm: |
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I figured that was probably the case. I wonder if a recycle center could get you a full size oven cheap, even if it's all beat up and other things may not be working. I guess the hard part would be to figure out if the oven part still works. |
Hybridmomentspass
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 07:47 pm: |
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sifo - what about CL? |
Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 07:53 pm: |
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CL??? |
Hybridmomentspass
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 07:57 pm: |
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craigslist |
Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 08:10 pm: |
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I was thinking in a condition beyond selling on CL. CL could be a good source though. |
Hybridmomentspass
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 08:31 pm: |
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not selling, likely giving away though |
Ourdee
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 08:53 pm: |
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Just build an oven. |
Harleyms
| Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 10:05 pm: |
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I used a propane powered torpedo style heater to bake some bicycle wheels with the eastwood kit....just use a non contact temp gauge to keep from burning the powder |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 04:26 am: |
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As Ourdee said "Just build an oven" How hot does it have to get? & for how long? Alternatively, if you've a lot to do, find a bakery or pizza joint that's gone out of business & buy a used commercial oven in the sell off. Just remember though, that when folk know that you have a well kitted garage/workshop your place becomes like "Field of dreams" If you build it they will come! |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 08:08 am: |
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For my oxy acetylene welding, I went to a brick supply shop and got some fire bricks. Amazing stuff, you can heat them glowing bright orange with no damage or spalling. It would probably be easy to build an oven out of them, either permanently or temporarily (where you take them down and stack them back in the corner when you are done). |
Kyrocket
| Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 08:47 am: |
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A buddy of mine does this in his basement in a old cook stove. Some places you may source are big box stores after they deliver a new stove and remove the old. Craigslist as others have said or if it were me I have a friend that works at the landfill and people are always dropping them off there. It would be trick if you could find an old wall unit that had the stove up top and an attached broiler below, that would allow you to hand longer objects than a regular cooking oven. |
Loose1
| Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 06:25 pm: |
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I do my own stuff with great results. All the stuff on my bikes I've done myself. The key is in the prep and preheating the part helps a lot. Be careful with the ovens. You should be using an electric oven. The curing fumes can be flammable. I get all my powder from powder by the pound. They have lots of choices and good quality stuff. Matt |
Bluzm2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 08:25 pm: |
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PC usually runs about 350 degrees to "cure". |
Sleez
| Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 11:56 pm: |
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a lot of ideas for ovens; http://www.google.com/search?q=diy+powder+coating+ oven?&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&tbo=u&rls=en&tb m=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Tr4AUZrlOcOziwKuroHAAw& ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1665&bih=952 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tenkely/sets/72157610 491602911/ |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 04:15 am: |
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Is that 350° F or C ? If it's C you'll be needing a kiln rather than a stock oven, if it's F that's about 180° C which most any oven will do easily. |
Boogiman1981
| Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 06:43 am: |
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can also use quartz halogen lights as well. keep an eye on temps like mentioned above when using the heater. |
Nik
| Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:44 am: |
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The powders I've used cure at 400 F for 15-20 minutes. Well within the capabilities of a repurposed household oven. |
Kyrocket
| Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 08:30 am: |
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Yeah, that's in F. The factory I used to work in had a conveyor belt that ran through the ovens. We made large electrical enclosures, when I say large, our biggest six door enclosure was about 24' long, 36" deep and about 7' tall. Now that was an oven. |
Hammer71
| Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 03:29 pm: |
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Ive got a Powder Shop, side business that pays for my toys. Shoot me a PM and Ill get ya pointed in the right direction. |
Microchop
| Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 08:51 am: |
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I have the Eastwood kit. Great results if you follow the advice already given, and I'll share some tips of my own. Solvent wipe everything you plan to coat, and pre heat to ensure all solvent (acetone works) is evaporated or risk pinholes on porous surfaces. You will have to apply more powder than you would think to get full coverage. Prior to heating, the surface should look almost "furry" for lack of a better term. When I coated just enough to cover, with a smooth layer prior to curing, there were translucent spots. |
99savage
| Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 09:51 am: |
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Microchop +1 No coating job is any better than the surface prep. |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 10:52 am: |
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Speaking of translucent powder coats, does anyone have any experience with this? Santa Cruz bicycles used to have a rootbeer color that looked fantastic! |