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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have shot both for years M14s M1AS and ARs M1As love them only issue is you need a armoury to rebarrel ARs a vice and hand tools Shooting Hi power we have 3 of each gun one at the smith one being broken in and a shooter
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still not buying, but went shopping today at one of our better local shops. Really liked the RRA Operator at $999 with the stand alone rear sight.





I would probably prefer a chrome lined barrel and the barrel on this model is pretty hefty. Still seemed like some pretty decent features for a grand. I may have to get the wife's opinion of the weight. Two stage trigger felt nice. Floating handguard. Nice cushion on the grip and stock. Winter trigger guard is a plus to me.

It was nice to see that they had stripped lower receivers available, I think they were from Century Arms. I wouldn't mind building exactly what I would like. I may have to start pricing the parts.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

def a good value for the money. i've used their triggers on several ar's. $125 option. the stock is sweet & handguard. warning though, that muzzle brake is loud!
my buddy has 18" a.t.h. upper with that thing on it
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was just looking online trying to get prices on EXACTLY what I would want for a comparable build. I'm up around $1,400 and know there's a couple small things I haven't priced yet. To walk out of the store with a gun ready to shoot at a grand seems pretty good, and could still upgrade a couple things if I felt the need. I could even swap out the barrel for a light weight chrome lined barrel and still save money. The RRA website says it comes with a carry case too.

A couple of people were talking about how loud muzzle brakes can be. I figure it would be easy to swap to a flash suppressor pretty cheaply if I didn't like the brake.

This thing has me tempted.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah they just unscrew right off the end. last i knew the standard a2 flash hider was like $5. i used a blackout hider from aac and it really didn't work much better (i tried them at night).
just got a spikes tactical buffer today can't wait to try that out. supposed to smooth out the cycle & reduce muzzle climb..

so far i'm at $1200 in my bcm build and now trying to figure out which optic to use. that's even harder to decide lol

(Message edited by nuke-blue on November 21, 2012)
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Nukeblue
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here's a pic of my mbr & carbine. the goal was to build a lightweight reliable cqb ar. did it in about two weeks lol (call it election fever)
m1a=springfield loaded synthetic with fulton armory hooded sight.
ar= bravo co. lightweight mid-length 14.5 upper with perm install flash hider to a legal 16", magpul foliage green moe handguard & grip, a.r.m.s. flip-up buis, failzero bolt carrier group, spikes tactical buffer & spring, surplus lower. all i need now is the gunfighter charging handle & prob go aimpoint micro red dot.

(hope the pic works!)
toys
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've owned these Colts since 1998.

The big one just wears a little fancier furniture now.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://americannationalmilitia.com/obamas-gun-ban- list-is-out/
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice high quality firearms Rick! Really neat photo too.

What is the dealio on the bottom fore edge of the stock that is facing towards the back of the pistol grip?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch,

That article is old. Interestingly, when they had a chance with huge majorities in congress, even then the Progressives knew better than to try to pass a new gun ban. Now with Republican controlled House and the whistle blown on Fast & Furious, it's not much of a concern.

The UN deal may be something else though in that it could hurt American firearms manufacturers by taking away their foreign markets. I'm just guessing on that though, as I am ignorant of the details of said UN treaty.
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Darth_villar
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, that appears to be the lever to adjust the stock.

I'm digging the stock with the cheek rest Rick, nice weapons.

The Kel-tec RFB just came out in a 24" barrel, I may be picking up one... assuming I can find it. I'm hoping the accuracy will be a bit better than the 18". The 18" is supposedly sub-MOA at 100m but not by much, DPMS AR-10s are far better than that.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

double barrel AR ?!?!?
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/06/12/silv er-shadow-gilboa-snake-double-barreled-ar-15-from- israel/
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. That is just the stock release. It has to be pulled down instead of squeezed in like traditional stocks. The lever is lower profile and less likely to snag or be inadvertently released. It is also has a recoil reducing spring buffer, though it is largely unnecessary for this application.

This is my .30 caliber rifle. The PSL is a bit lower tech but is reliable and surprisingly accurate.

It's lightly modified. IMO these rifles are the best bang for the buck for something in a thirty cal.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

first time i saw one of those in action it was impressive. consistent hits in rapid out to 250 yds. always wanted one of those after that. and that 7.62x54 cal is no joke! nice rifle
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The best part is that com bloc ammo is super cheap. The bad part is that match grade ammo is hard to find. As long as the barrel doesn't get too hot it's about as accurate as a typical light contour barreled bolt gun.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Non black?


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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, all this talk, I'm in, gives me an excuse to get another AR.
Since I don't have the cash to buy a complete, I have decided do my first assembly.
I don't really buy into the term "build" because most builds that people talk about is just putting together the various parts.
I guess if a person actual had fit a portion of the parts, I might call it "building"

After looking on line for a stripped lower on several sites and all I see is sold out, I began to panic ; )

Went to my LGS, they had a 3 or 4 brands but, I decided to go with what I thought was the best he had for me, a S&W.
$150 OTD, may not be the cheapest or the "best deal", but I got the most important part to the Feds.

Now I can take my time, as money allows, to assemble.

Nukeblue - Your basic setup is right in line with the basic type I am planning, specifically the BCM LW 14.5 pinned middy.

Let the panic buying continue!

(Message edited by Ninefortheroad on November 23, 2012)
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Nukeblue
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

johnny non-black is the way to go!

nine, good call on the m&p lower those look real nice. another problem you might find lately is no one seems to have bolt carrier groups in stock either. i lucked out finding the failzero at my local store (even after they told me they didn't have any bcg's!) check your gun shows, i saw some a couple weeks ago at a show around here. should pay around $150 for a decent one complete. or get ahold of me my buddy has one for $130 (sherluk) or a colt for $150. i was getting ready to buy his sherluk when i found the failzero.
the bcm upper was without bcg
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nukeblue-
Thanks for the input!
I am giving doing it non-black some serious thought...
At this point I want to go with the FA BCG style of Colt or similar quality.
Do you know what style your buddies Colt BCG is?

I am tight on cash now, so more than likely I will not be jumping too fast on it or any other parts.

(Message edited by Ninefortheroad on November 23, 2012)
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Nukeblue
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just talked to him. the colt is SA and for sale. the sherluk is FA and not for sale. if/when you're ready and can't find one he'll prob still have it.
and if you've not handled a lightweight upper oh man! it's sweet. so sweet matter of fact, i'm buying a lower next month & registering it as an sbr : ) lighter the better!
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nukeblue -

Thanks again, I will keep those bolts in mind.

I with you on the SBR too but I'm still planning on the LW/14.5/pinned/middy at this point.

Last IDPA pistol/rifle side match of the year tomorrow, hope it is not too cold...
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Ulyranger
Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo, i bought a RRA Elite Operator 2 middy last year. No complaints, performs flawlessly. Fit and finish is perfect. It is a bit heavy up front compared to most 16" ARs, but knew that going in with the mid-length free float rail system and the heavier contour barrel. It is super stable though. The trigger is excellent. It's my go to coyote killer, very accurate.

I "built" a light weight carbine off a Stag upper this fall just to have a little something different. I have got to say the Stag comp seems a bit more harsh to the ears than than LAR. Though both are very loud, can't imagine what either sounds like indoors. No wonder Teams suppress these little black guns.......

I'm relatively new to the AR game, been into M1s and M14s for many years though.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 7.62x54R is the ammo for the old Mosin Nagants. Big, loud, and dirty... but also very cheap and very effective and highly plentiful. Very Russian.
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Macbuell
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone installed a Larue Tactical RISR on their AR. I was looking into this and looking for opinions. Apparently this is one of the only options for a cheek riser on an AR due to the charging handle on the AR.
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P_squared
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it were me, and I hadn't had a tragic boating accident recently, I'd wait another 2-3 months for prices to come back down.

If you're mechanically inclined, which most folks here are, buy the parts & assemble yourself. It may or may not be cheaper, but you'll get what YOU want when it's all done.

Having said that, I regret to inform you of the demise of all my long arms. That boat did a number, let me tell you.

Blake,
Granted the R's still hold the house, but I never thought Obamacare would pass muster either. Keep yer powder dry.
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P_squared
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mark,
If you need a RISR for good sight alignment, you can't go wrong with Larue.

Just my personal opinion & YMMV.
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Mnrider
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tactical(black)guns,who's buying one now.

Everyone must be cause I went to buy some 223 ammo and the shelves are bare.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

agreed. went up to fin feather fur and they're out of m&p 15 sports : ( guy i talked to said they sold about 200 of them since the election. wow.

ammo though was plenty where i was. 420 round cases of xm855 for $175. almost got some but i build mine

*or would that be assemble? lol*

(Message edited by nuke-blue on November 26, 2012)
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

*or would that be assemble? lol*

That would be assemble, unless there is metal removal or more that 15% reforming of the case.

We must remember...
Barry O. says....
You didn't build it! ; )
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unreal! I ordered the lower on the 8th, it showed up today. Going to go pick it up tomorrow I think. So much for the 3 month wait. : )

I really wasn't expecting this until after the new year.
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