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     Jon |
FB, We're watching the same debates, I apparently have higher standards for what I want from the head guy than you do. I admit I am hard to please when I feel the situation is critical. Specifics are in order for both sides. I do know Romney was a business success, but he did not make his money getting congress to agree with his decisions. He mandated. We'll just have to see what happens. Do you think if Romney get's elected and rolls out his plan that our leaders will work together? Nope, just another molasses food fight that sinks into inaction and putrification. But if he has some Reagan in him, he may get some traction. Does his utter contempt for the constitution...blah, blah, blah bother me? Duh. Well I hope Obama loses too, but if he wins, then congress needs to do what congress should do. Both of these guys are less than what this country is able to offer to lead the American people. Our greatest need perhaps is for a man who is a moral example not just of military willingness, but of patience and virtue. I'd like to see a president protect American's right to religious discrimination, bold and brassy free speech and take a minute to tell everyone that the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting. Get ready to be disappointed sooner or later. | ||
| Fb1 |
Jon, you're a tough crowd.  We're watching the same debates, I apparently have higher standards for what I want from the head guy than you do. Very doubtful, amigo. I'm self-employed; I sit at a computer all day. Every post on this thread, and the 0 thread, has come out of my pocket; I'm not doing this for the entertainment value. If you've followed this thread for any time at all, you know I have very strong convictions, and haven't been shy about stating them. Your comment strikes me as condescending, at best. Specifics are in order for both sides. And you'll get NONE from 0bama. Not a single one. I do know Romney was a business success, but he did not make his money getting congress to agree with his decisions. He mandated. Do you know he was elected governor of a blue state? Do you know his legislature was 87% democrat? He was very successful as governor, and it's quite doubtful it was by "mandating." Nice try, though. We'll just have to see what happens. Duh. Do you think if Romney get's elected and rolls out his plan that our leaders will work together? Jon, I took the high road in my earlier reply. I'll continue to do so, but you're making it hard. In short: Romney has a proven record as a businessman and politician. It's very reasonable to expect that he will use this experience to his - and OUR - advantage if elected president. I'm sure it won't be easy - nothing truly exceptional ever is - but I think he's got the right tools, and the right attitude, to get the job done. Nope, just another molasses food fight that sinks into inaction and putrification. So you can see into the future? That's a handy talent. But if he has some Reagan in him, he may get some traction. What were Reagan's numbers at this point in the run-up to his first election? Romney has done a great job of making a case for himself in the campaign trail and especially in the debates. He seems very presidential to me, and I've used the term "Reaganesque" several times. Yeah, I know - I have lower standards than you.  Does his utter contempt for the constitution...blah, blah, blah bother me? Duh. Nice. Well I hope Obama loses too, but if he wins, then congress needs to do what congress should do. Which is? Both of these guys are less than what this country is able to offer to lead the American people. Re: Romney, what a load of crap. Sorry, but that's as nicely as I can put it. 0bama? You're right on the money. Useless, feckless, clueless, and dangerous. Our greatest need perhaps is for a man who is a moral example not just of military willingness, but of patience and virtue. I'd like to see a president protect American's right to religious discrimination, bold and brassy free speech and take a minute to tell everyone that the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting. You have NOT been paying attention. Get ready to be disappointed sooner or later. You're a veritable fountain of Hallmark greetings, Jon. I don't think Romney is God. I DO think he's a morally honest, hard-working, successful family man, businessman and politician, who's a Patriot at his core and who is running for all the RIGHT reasons. Perfect? Duh. None of us are. The real deal? Yeah, I think so. I guess we'll just have to see what happens, eh? | ||
| Fb1 |
Jon, here's a splendid resource re: Romney AND Ryan's stand on the 2nd Amendment: http://www.nraila.org/ Enjoy. | ||
| Fb1 |
NRA-PVF Endorses Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan for President and Vice President Thursday, October 04, 2012 NRA-PVF Endorses Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan for President and Vice President Fairfax, VA. - The National Rifle Association's Political Victory Fund today announced its endorsement of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan for President and Vice President. NRA’s Executive Vice President, Wayne LaPierre, and NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) Chairman, Chris W. Cox, made the announcement in Fishersville, Virginia, during a rally with both Gov. Mitt Romney and Rep. Paul Ryan in attendance. Also, attending and performing at the press conference was country music superstar and NRA Life Member Trace Adkins. “Virginia is ground zero – the front line of this election. This is where the race could be won or lost. This is where the difference can be made. This is where gun owners must make that difference.” said LaPierre. http://nrapvf.org/news-alerts/2012/10/nra-pvf-endo rses-romney-and-ryan.aspx | ||
| Fb1 |
NRA’s Chris Cox’s One On One Interview With Mitt Romney Posted on September 12, 2012 by Ammoland FAIRFAX, Va. --(Ammoland.com)- This year’s election is going to define the future of our freedom, perhaps more than any other in our history. For gun owners, there are a number of areas crucial to the survival of our Second Amendment rights. That’s why I took the time to visit with Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential nominee, to find out precisely where he stands on the issues of concern to gun owners. Chris W. Cox: First, let me start with the most basic question of all. In the 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, and in the 2010 case McDonald v. City of Chicago, the U.S. Supreme Court —by a 5-4 majority— held that the Second Amendment guarantees the fundamental, individual right of all law-abiding Americans to keep and bear arms. Do you agree that the Second Amendment protects a fundamental, individual right to own and use firearms for all lawful purposes? Gov. Mitt Romney: Absolutely, and I was pleased when the Court finally rendered a clear and concise decision on this critical issue. The Second Amendment is essential to our free society. I strongly support the right of all law-abiding Americans to exercise their constitutionally protected right to own firearms and to use them for lawful purposes, including self-defense; the protection of family and property; hunting and recreational shooting. Cox: Obviously, America’s 100 million gun owners are very concerned that their Second Amendment rights hang in the balance at the U.S. Supreme Court by just one vote. President Obama’s two nominees to the Court so far —Justices Sotomayor and Kagan— have a history of anti-gun opinions and activism. And some have predicted that if Barack Obama is re-elected, he may have the opportunity to nominate several more justices to the Court. As president, if you had the opportunity, what type of individuals would you nominate to the Supreme Court? And which of the justices currently serving on the Court would you consider to be the best models of your judicial philosophy? Gov. Romney: Chris, I believe the next president could indeed have the opportunity to shape the Court for decades to come, and that’s a key reason why the tens of millions of Americans who support the NRA should support my candidacy. My view of the Constitution is straightforward: Its words have meaning. The founders adopted a written constitution for a reason. They intended to limit the powers of government. The job of a judge is to enforce the Constitution’s restraints on government and, where the Constitution does not speak, to leave the governance of the nation to its elected representatives. I believe in the rule of law, and I will appoint wise, experienced and restrained judges who take seriously their oath to discharge their duties impartially in accordance with our Constitution and our laws—not their personal policy preferences. Cox: Let’s do a quick rundown of where you stand on some gun laws our opponents have been pushing for many years. Do you support additional federal regulation of gun shows? Gov. Romney: I do not support further federal regulation of gun shows. There are tens of thousands of gun shows in local communities every year. Gun shows are not only an opportunity for millions of law-abiding Americans to exercise their Second Amendment rights, but also their First Amendment right to assemble and speak. Anti-gun organizations have perpetrated this myth that somehow laws don’t apply at gun shows and that’s nonsense. All sales from federal firearm licensees are regulated no matter where they take place, and private sales are regulated at gun shows just as they are anywhere else. Cox: Gun owner licensing? Gov. Romney: That’s another solution in search of a problem. I do support the current National Instant Check System, because it simply verifies that a gun buyer is not disqualified under current law. Adding an arbitrary, costly and bureaucratic licensing scheme on top of that would be wasteful and wrong. Cox: Federal gun registration? Gov. Romney: Like the majority of Americans, I do not believe that the United States needs more laws that restrict Second Amendment rights. I also recognize the extraordinary number of jobs and other economic benefits that are produced by hunting, recreational shooting, and the firearms and ammunition industry, not the least of which is to fund wildlife and habitat conservation. But I do not support adding more laws and regulations that would burden law-abiding citizens and would be ignored by criminals. Cox: The United Nations has been conducting serious negotiations on a treaty that would likely impose significant regulation of private gun ownership in the United States. The Bush administration strongly opposed this effort as an infringement on American sovereignty. How would a Romney administration approach this issue? Gov. Romney: I am troubled by this. In foreign policy, I am guided by one overwhelming conviction: This century must be an American Century. In an American Century, America has the strongest economy and the strongest military in the world. In an American Century, America leads the free world. God did not create this country to be a nation of followers. America must lead the world, or someone else will. Without American leadership, without the clarity of American purpose and resolve, the world becomes a far more dangerous place. Let me make this very clear. As president of the United States, I will devote myself to those ideas, and I will never, ever apologize for America. So by the same token, I will never support or enforce any treaty that attempts to restrict our fundamental rights, or tries to “harmonize” our constitutional rights with all of the less-free nations in the world. Cox: Would you support legislation to provide national reciprocity for Right-to-Carry permit holders so that they can protect themselves when they’re traveling outside their home states? Gov. Romney: Absolutely. Fundamental rights don’t disappear when we cross state borders, and self-defense is a fundamental right. Cox: Would you support the reimposition of a federal ban on semi-automatic firearms incorrectly called “assault weapons?” Gov. Romney: No. I do not support any additional laws to restrict the right to keep and bear arms. Cox: As governor, you signed a major bill reforming Massachusetts’ gun registration and licensing laws. Some in the media and elsewhere claim this bill was a reauthorization of the semi-auto ban in Massachusetts. What’s your response? Gov. Romney: As governor of Massachusetts, I was proud to support legislation that expanded the rights of gun owners. I worked hard to advance the ability of law-abiding citizens to purchase and own firearms, while opposing liberal desires to create bureaucracy intended to burden gun owners and sportsmen. As governor, I also designated May 7 as “The Right to Bear Arms Day” in Massachusetts to honor law-abiding citizens and their right to “use firearms in defense of their families, persons and property for all lawful purposes, including common defense.” The bill you mention was supported by your state NRA affiliate because it expanded the rights of Massachusetts gun owners. The NRA said at the time that it included “the greatest set of firearm law reforms since the passage of the Commonwealth’s worst-in-the- nation gun laws … a breath of fresh air for law-abiding gun owners.” While not perfect legislation, I agreed with that description of the bill, and that’s why I signed it into law. Cox: America has a proud hunting tradition. One of the biggest problems facing hunters is finding land where they can hunt. The NRA has worked for a number of years to open as much federal land to hunting as possible. What would you do as president to address this issue? Gov. Romney: I will work with the Congress to pass legislation to make clear that public lands should be open for hunting unless there’s a legitimate reason otherwise. I also plan to address the regulatory aspect of this issue by nominating people to key positions who support our proud hunting heritage, and understand that hunters are the original conservationists. Cox: Over the past few years, drug cartel violence along the Southwest border has created significant problems for law enforcement, and has been used by anti-gun politicians in both the U.S. and Mexico as an excuse to call for more American gun laws. How would you deal with the violence in Mexico and its impact in the U.S.? Gov. Romney: Our border with Mexico remains an ongoing problem, posing serious questions for America’s future. Will drug cartels dominate Mexico’s border region, with greater and greater violence spilling over into our country? And will drug smugglers and terrorists increasingly make their way to our side of the border? These are only some of the very real dangers that America faces, if we continue the policies of the past three years. But it doesn’t have to be this way. We are a democracy. We decide. Your members decide. America’s 100 million gun owners decide. I will offer a very different vision of America’s role in the world and of America’s destiny than what we’ve seen during the past three and a half years. Cox: One part of the current administration’s policies to deal with Mexican crime was the “Fast & Furious” program. This has turned into a serious scandal. As president, how would you respond if this occurred during your administration? And how would you prevent this kind of disaster in the future? Gov. Romney: I don’t want to wait until after the election. This problem needs to be addressed right now. I support the language in the current Justice Department appropriations bill to absolutely prohibit this kind of operation. And unlike Barack Obama, I would not support repealing that language in the future. Cox: Attorney General Holder has steadfastly refused to cooperate with the congressional investigation into “Fast & Furious.” Do you believe Holder should resign or be fired due to his actions? Gov. Romney: If there is the remotest possibility that our nation’s top prosecutors have suppressed evidence that they supported this outrageous operation, then someone has to be held accountable. And I believe that’s where this is headed, so yes, I believe it’s time for Eric Holder to go. Cox: The NRA has always said that passing more gun control laws will not reduce violent crime. We think the solution to this issue is prosecuting criminals who illegally misuse firearms. But in the Obama administration, prosecutions of criminals who misuse firearms are at the lowest point in the last 10 years. What do you believe is the most effective method for reducing crime? Gov. Romney: My position is simple: I will enforce the laws already on the books and punish, to the fullest extent of the law, criminals who misuse firearms to commit crimes. I will also provide law enforcement with the proper and effective resources they need to deter, apprehend and punish criminals. Cox: One of the key areas where presidents can affect the Second Amendment rights of Americans is in the people they appoint to key positions. As president, will you appoint people who agree with your position that the Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental, individual right, particularly to the office of attorney general and other Cabinet level appointments, as well as positions that directly impact gun owners such as the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives? Gov. Romney: That’s a basic starting point, yes. If elected president, yes, I will nominate people who agree that the Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental, individual right and are prepared to implement them throughout government, from the Cabinet level on down. Cox: Aside from the specific issues, is there anything you’d like to tell our members about the stakes in this election for gun owners and hunters? Gov. Romney: I do. I believe we are an exceptional country with a unique destiny and role in the world. We are exceptional because we are a nation founded on a precious idea that was born in the American Revolution. We are a people who threw off the yoke of tyranny and established a government of the people, by the people and for the people. We are a people who, in the language of our Declaration of Independence, hold certain truths to be self evident; namely, that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. That sets us apart from the rest of the world, and we don’t need to apologize for it. We should be proud of it. I hope to serve as your president to continue in that proud tradition. We need a president who will stand up for the rights of those who simply want to protect themselves, their families and their homes and who want to continue America’s rich hunting heritage. President Obama has not, but I will. The choice is clear. I hope your members will support me, and I respectfully ask for their votes on Election Day. Cox: Governor Romney, thank you for your time and for your support of gun owners’ rights. Good luck in November. About: Established in 1975, the Institute for Legislative Action (ILA) is the “lobbying” arm of the National Rifle Association of America. ILA is responsible for preserving the right of all law-abiding individuals in the legislative, political, and legal arenas, to purchase, possess and use firearms for legitimate purposes as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Visit: www.nra.org Source: http://www.ammoland.com/2012/09/12/nras-chris-coxs -one-on-one-interview-with-mitt-romney/#axzz2AAibk MTL | ||
| Jon |
FB1, I am self employed too and do not have time to glean news when I am working to keep my company in the black. Having said that I have paid more than enough attention to these men and these matters. You're stuck on your self and your own opinions. What seems condescending to you is merely something different and perhaps better that what you think or post. You are fired up about your opinions and I guess that's OK, but you are too eager to worship what we ended up with on the conservative side in mu opinion. That looks weird for a guy that doesn't think Romney is God. Well one of them anyway, wink, wink. And I always buy Hallmark cards that are blank so I can write the truth in them, and not somebody else's sentiments. Stay full of yourself. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
dang theres a lot of Copy and Paste in this thread. | ||
| Jon |
Out of hand really | ||
| Reindog |
Jon, Thanks for jumping into the ring and I hope you end of voting for Romney (even though you are Kalifornian like myself). I am grateful for all the work done on this thread and have learned information that I wouldn't have obtained easily. A word of thanks is in order. FB1 was the first to admit that we will fight Romney if he goes to sleep after he wins. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"dang theres a lot of Copy and Paste in this thread." Ego too. Rein, Lived in California for (too) many years. A blue state only stays blue if you can convince enough people who believe otherwise not to vote. Same with red states. Come on people, Vote damn it! G | ||
| Reindog |
The "horses and bayonets" condescending remark by He Who Shall Not Be Named should awaken some voters. The USN is headed for the lowest number of ships since 1917. Anyone with a knowledge of history knows that this will lead to problems. Big Problems. I, too, DESPISE the Chicago Crime Boss. | ||
| Fb1 |
dang theres a lot of Copy and Paste in this thread. It's a great way to share news, opinions and viewpoints. It'd be easy to say something like, "So and so politician sucks" or "So and so politician rocks" and leave it at that. Nothing really wrong with that, I guess, but I've tried to inform myself with specific knowledge about the candidates as we near election day, and have shared a lot of op/ed pieces, articles, polls, etc. here on BWB, including the sources and links, in case other folks are also inclined to learn more about the candidates and issues. Can't really think of a downside, actually. If a person so chooses, click the link and see where the journey takes you. Not interested in what the source has to say? Don't click, and scroll along. REALLY not interested? Bypass the thread entirely. There are a lot of folks in the "news" community watching this election very closely, most much better with words than I, and with far greater time and resources at their disposal to try to determine what's truth and what's not amongst the issues and candidates. My contribution to the political threads is simply an effort to help inform the interested reader. Yeah, I've posted-up a lot of "political" stuff of late. That's a direct reflection of the passion I have for our great country and a burning desire to do my part, however small, to help protect and defend her. In my world it's called patriotism. | ||
| Fb1 |
PS: Romney rocks. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
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| Fb1 |
Source, and read Cox's interview with Ryan, here: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/15/nras-chris-cox-g oes-one-on-one-with-paul-ryan/
http://youtu.be/RyBVoG2vbLc | ||
| Hootowl |
Where are the UN election monitors when you need them? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/23/fake-vo ter-registration-letters-raise-alarm-in-florida-wi th-early-voting-set-to Oh that's right, they're only there to watch for Republicans intimidating Democrats. Snipe hunting comes to mind. | ||
| Fb1 |
NC Romney Voter: Machine Recorded Vote For Obama, Twice http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/23 /NC-Romney-Voter-Voting-Machine-Recorded-Vote-For- Obama No worries, the machine just needs to be recalibrated. I wonder if that's anything like redistribution........ | ||
| Fb1 |
Clint Eastwood rocks.
http://youtu.be/klXTb-s7d9A | ||
| Blake |
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/video-captures-dem-camp aign-chief-plotting-vote-fraud/ Nothing to see here, no need for voter ID. How many voters won't notice the fraud being perpetrated. Politico is showing Texas as merely leaning towards Romney. Are you kidding me? Bush twice and McCain, but only "leaning" for Romney? Get prepared, the fix may indeed be in. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
if Romney loses, will you all assume its cause of rigged elections? Its funny to me, both sides are saying the same thing | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I think the difference is that Progressives proudly commit voter fraud and loudly claim it isn't happening. Conservatives are accused of voter fraud but there is never any evidence of it. | ||
| Kenm123t |
But the demons get caught thats what happened in Bushs election they tried to vote every condo commando in Boca Raton when they were home voting in NY This is why early voting is wrong it gives cheats travel time to vote in two or more states | ||
| Fb1 |
Source, and read more: http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/23/gingrich-the -challenger-versus-the-commander-in-chief/ | ||
| Xdigitalx |
SET BIG BIRD FREE!!! Somebody should make a cartoon of Obama (Govt.) holding a massive dog leash with spikes....and Big Bird on the other end on his knees saying "please release me" ... or "set me free" maybe in a dog cage. Biden could be standing by looking like he wants to stab Big Bird with a bayonet if he doesn't comply. | ||
| Sifo |
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| Xdigitalx |
Thats a good one! | ||
| Xdigitalx |
what's funny is, the yellow one doesn't need to be saved... it needs to be released and set free from the current corrupt administration so it can prosper on its' own. | ||
| Fb1 |
Another endorsement; this is a big one:
Source, and read more: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121025/OPINIO N01/210250332/1008/opinion01/Editorial-Mitt-Romney -President Excellent. | ||
| Fb1 |
The Des Moines, Iowa Register rocks:  Image source: http://twitchy.com/2012/10/25/awesome-pic-des-moin es-register-dings-obama-with-dramatic-front-page-c ontrast/ | ||
| Fb1 |
Source, and read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AP_POLL_ PRESIDENTIAL_CAMPAIGN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLAT E=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-25-06-16-01 |
