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Redbuelljunkie
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Just like that, the SPEED network's fate was sealed. It will cease to exist and become the FOX Sports 1 cable network in 2013."

If so, what happens to MotoGP, WSBK, Formula 1, and all the other good stuff (they can keep NASACAR)...

http://dalyplanet.blogspot.com/2012/10/boom-goes-d ynamite.html?m
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm afraid you're right Pete(Redbuelljunkie), when one of my favorite cable sports channels for fishing, hunting and many great outdoor programs got bought out by NBC sports they dropped 90% of those programs in favor of more viewed sports like football, soccer & skiing. A viewer $$$ driven business and a shame indeed.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A business NOT driven by viewer $$$ is bankrupt.

If Speed could have been successful with their current lineup, they wouldn't have needed to sell to Fox.

Most of the programming on Speed was crap.
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Buellish
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The problems started when Speed Channel dropped Motorcyclist TV and the other motorcycle related shows on Tuesday nights.
How many of you remember that?
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Guell
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i thought the motorcycle shows were a joke on tuesday nights, speed was dead to me when they dropped wrc.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most of the programming on Speed was crap.

then if they are moving to Fox network, they should fit right in then!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess you can count MSNBC in the camp unconcerned with viewer $$$ (or profit).

To bad that means they didn't have the money to add additional programming no one is watching. ; )
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01x1buell
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that blows, i watch ROLEX series on speed, so what is going to happen to that???
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Without motorcycle racing, my need for cable is completely gone.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My guess is you'll still see some of the more non mainstream racing such as motorcycle road racing, motocross, sports cars, WoO, dirt late models etc, but you'll probably need to set your dvr to actually see them. We'll see.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'FOX Sports 1 cable network in 2013."






I SHUDDER TO THINK.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

01x1 - you dont need to worry about Rolex much longer either...unless you havent heard - GrandAm and ALMS are merging in 2014.

the bike shows on Speed were garbage, why would you miss those?

Yes, speed is mostly nascar, but considering its popularity it makes complete sense.
We might not like it, but if it helps keep the lights on...

Curious to see how many changes we'll see with the channel once the switchover is complete
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As much as we don't like to hear it, there simply isn't that much of a public following of motorcycle racing.

It's an easy equation. Revenue generated by commercial sales minus cost of production. Of the number is negative or zero, game over.

Even on Speed the races we wanted to see weren't broadcast live or even at a decent time. They aired the races when other network were filling the air with reruns of Lucille Ball.
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01x1buell
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hybrid yes i have heard the bad news about the Rolex Grand am and ALMS merging in 2014. I am not not happy about any of these decisions.
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Union_man
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I for one am sorry to see Speed channel go away.
But...
Television as we know it will gone like the FAX machine.
F*#K you fax machines, good riddance!
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Spike240sx
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$20 Says Nascar starts their own channel!
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01x1buell
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i wish they would, I personely cant stand Nascar.
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Strokizator
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even my wife, who's no sports nut, remembers Two Wheel Tuesdays. RIP Speed Channel.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From the article:
"...people familiar with the matter said the company will convert its niche sports channel called SPEED into a broad-based sports network.

Besides baseball, Fox will also put NASCAR racing, college football, soccer and Ultimate Fighting on its cable channel"

I don't see motorcycle racing mentioned.
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

who cares cable will be dead in 5 years IMo on demand and internet is the future with live streaming networks
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01x1buell
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave, shut your mouth!!!!!!!!
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If Fox went off the air tomorrow, I would miss the sports, NOTHING else!!!

I don't watch much television unless it's a sporting event. I don't even have a TV hooked up at my home.
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Bpt
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got sick of paying to watch commercials on hundreds of worthless channels.

We gave up satellite TV 2 years ago. I don't miss it. I subscribe to MotoGP.com and watch WSB on Wiziwig. We watch Netflix with no commercials for a fraction of the price!

We go to my sons and watch cable and there is still nothing on, except the commercials.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2012 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe if Speed stops carrying it, we can just stream it direct from the internet. Then we might finally see a live race... live...
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Crackhead
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 reep
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suspect that, since the bleachers are usually not full at the track, the lack of TV coverage will mean that sponsorship will wane, and MC racing as we know it will no longer exist.

Let's hope Fox keeps broadcasting the races.
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Whistler
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Friday I went to my local Best Buy to look for an inexpensive old school "stereo" set up for my garage. Need something to play the radio, albums, cassette tapes, and CD's. Two hours later we got it figured out but had to order stuff like the tape deck. I thought it interesting that there was only one turn table available that actually just played the album through a receiver and speakers rather than burn it into a digital format or route it through a computer. This purchase must place me on the cutting edge of outdated technology. I feel so spry I'm going to go ahead and order the tennis balls for my walker now.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, I see your point, but I wonder about the actual reality.

Almost all races are broadcast at 1am on speed.

So, using the following assumptions:
1) The people watching these races are mostly those that are going out of their way to find them wherever they are (as opposed to a "speed network fan" or a channel surfer.

2) Most people watching these races have a DVR and know how to use it.

3) Most people who has a DVR and knows how to use it can also probably go to www.amaracing.com and click a "watch now" link and watch the video.

4) Advertisers are paying for airtime and eyeballs, not to "be on speed TV".

5) Speed TV requires cable, and requires in many cases an "upper" cable tier. So lots of people are cut off before they can even get to it.

So given all that, perhaps the people you loose by not being on speed would be more than made up for by the people that would now have access to it.

That being said, I'd love to be able to take the kids and some of their friends up to BW3's and get chicken wings and watch a 3pm saturday AMA superbike race cheering on EBR and generally yelling at the TV and making a scene...

The racing is really good. There is good money to be made there. Fox ought to be able to sell this well enough to run it live.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"This purchase must place me on the cutting edge of outdated technology. I feel so spry I'm going to go ahead and order the tennis balls for my walker now."



Buddy, you'd appreciate MY old junkpile of a hi-fi...

But seriously, why bother with Best Buy? You really need to hit all the pawn shops around, mebbe CL. Don't blow more $$$ than you need!
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Whistler
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know, I was surprised, went to Best Buy just to look around (after having looked on line and a visit to Radio Shack) and the prices were pretty good plus they were running a special with most items 40% off. Was also able to get everything but the tape deck and speakers at another 20% discount because they were unused returns. Tack on a frequent buyers discount that we signed up for and used during the purchase and I was happy. Sony turn table ended up to be $52 including tax. So like I said, surprised at the BB experience. Besides, my mom won't let me go back to the pawnshop anymore after what happened last time.
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