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Court
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had, the other day, the opportunity to read a "report card" (a rating from an independent outside consultant) of a school in Manhattan . . supposedly "one of the best".

Look at this and tell me how you'd feel about having these folks prepare your kids to compete in this world . . .

http://schools.nyc.gov/OA/SchoolReports/2011-12/Pr ogress_Report_2012_EMS_M234.pdf

Government does very few things very well . . . .



>>>Court give them to the Journalism Dept

I'v'e got a great place for a bumper sticker in mind . . .

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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its getting a little silly in obama land

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/09/obama-c ampaign-deploys-big-bird-in-new-ad/
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The Obama campaign ad released Monday featured a menacing voiceover warning of Romney's anti-Big Bird agenda.

"Big, yellow, a menace to our economy. Mitt Romney knows it's not Wall Street you have to worry about, it's Sesame Street," the voiceover says. "Mitt Romney, taking on our enemies no matter where they nest."

The Romney campaign said its rivals were distracting from bigger issues.

"Four years ago, President Obama said that if you don't have a record to run on, 'you make a big election about small things.' With 23 million people struggling for work, incomes falling, and gas prices soaring, Americans deserve more from their president,"

LMFAO
Go Get'em Mitt!

Hey Court, Lets see that sticker!


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/09/obama-c ampaign-deploys-big-bird-in-new-ad/#ixzz28pCBXzoF
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama has nothing but a collection of failures to parade out . . they HAVE to go the "Big Bird" route.

I'd be curious to see how folks, our left leaning friends, feel about paying for things like PBS.

Does it bother them that we pay for PBS but the billions in licensing royalties from . . guess who . . BID BIRD . . don't stay in the company.

Like Romney . . . I think Big Bird rocks. But in America . . . if he rocks he'll easily be able to pay his own way. Why not apply those royalties toward funding PBS. Again, nothing against PBS but the idea of borrowing, like we do, from China to fun it seems odd.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Big Bird (and his crony Elmo) can cut it on their own from the licensed merchandise and licensing..... AND the State Departments funding for them to broadcast into Pakistan.

Let them eat cake.
Off the teet yella fella - time to go.

And there are a whole host of agencies and pet perk pork projects that need the red pen.
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know I should be ecstatic about the butt-kicking Romney laid on 0bama in the debate (and I am), something troubles me: 0bama didn't even try.

Why???


quote:

Gallup: Romney Debate Win Most Lopsided in History
Tony Lee, Oct 9 , 2012

Mitt Romney bested President Barack Obama, by nearly every measure, in last week's debate, and a new Gallup poll found Romney's victory was the most lopsided presidential debate win in history.

According to Gallup, two in three Americans watched debate, and 72% of those Americans felt Romney won while only 20% felt Obama performed better. While 97 % of Republicans believed Romney won the debate, so did Democrats by a 10-point margin (49%-39%). Romney also overwhelmingly won independents (70%-19%).



Source, and read more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/09 /Gallup-Romney-Debate-Win-Most-Lopsided-In-History
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For you folks who finally got a chance to see and hear Mitt Romney last week unfiltered by a hostile media, here's some more study material for you. It's the text of a wide-ranging foreign policy speech Romney gave at the Virginia Military Institute in Lexington, Virginia yesterday.

Yes, it's a long read.

And yes, it's damn important, if for no other reason to help solidify in your mind that Mitt Romney can, and WILL, help guide our country back to greatness.

Read his words, and ponder whether Romney has The Right Stuff to lead our nation.

I say he does.

We're less than a month away from the most important presidential election in the history of our nation.

You owe it to yourself to be informed.

WE owe it to ourselves - and our ancestors, who fought, bled and died for our liberty - and to our children, and grandchildren, and great-grandchildren - to protect and defend their liberty - to elect a Patriot this time.



quote:

"I particularly appreciate the introduction from my good friend and tireless campaign companion, Gov. Bob McDonnell. He is showing what conservative leadership can do to build a stronger economy. Thank you also Congressman Goodlatte for joining us today. And particular thanks to Gen. Peay. I appreciate your invitation to be with you today at the Virginia Military Institute. It is a great privilege to be here at an Institution that has done so much for our nation, both in war and in peace.

For more than 170 years, VMI has done more than educate students. It has guided their transformation into citizens, and warriors, and leaders. VMI graduates have served with honor in our nation’s defense, just as many are doing today in Afghanistan and other lands. Since the September 11th attacks, many of VMI’s sons and daughters have defended America, and I mourn with you the 15 brave souls who have been lost. I join you in praying for the many VMI graduates and all Americans who are now serving in harm’s way. May God bless all who serve, and all who have served.

Of all the VMI graduates, none is more distinguished than George Marshall—the Chief of Staff of the Army who became Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense, who helped to vanquish fascism and then planned Europe’s rescue from despair. His commitment to peace was born of his direct knowledge of the awful costs and consequences of war.

General Marshall once said, “The only way human beings can win a war is to prevent it.” Those words were true in his time—and they still echo in ours.

Last month, our nation was attacked again. A U.S. Ambassador and three of our fellow Americans are dead—murdered in Benghazi, Libya. Among the dead were three veterans. All of them were fine men, on a mission of peace and friendship to a nation that dearly longs for both. President Obama has said that Ambassador Chris Stevens and his colleagues represented the best of America. And he is right. We all mourn their loss.

The attacks against us in Libya were not an isolated incident. They were accompanied by anti-American riots in nearly two dozen other countries, mostly in the Middle East, but also in Africa and Asia. Our embassies have been attacked. Our flag has been burned. Many of our citizens have been threatened and driven from their overseas homes by vicious mobs, shouting “Death to America.” These mobs hoisted the black banner of Islamic extremism over American embassies on the anniversary of the September 11th attacks.

As the dust settles, as the murdered are buried, Americans are asking how this happened, how the threats we face have grown so much worse, and what this calls on America to do. These are the right questions. And I have come here today to offer a larger perspective on these tragic recent events—and to share with you, and all Americans, my vision for a freer, more prosperous, and more peaceful world.

The attacks on America last month should not be seen as random acts. They are expressions of a larger struggle that is playing out across the broader Middle East—a region that is now in the midst of the most profound upheaval in a century. And the fault lines of this struggle can be seen clearly in Benghazi itself.

The attack on our Consulate in Benghazi on September 11th, 2012 was likely the work of forces affiliated with those that attacked our homeland on September 11th, 2001. This latest assault cannot be blamed on a reprehensible video insulting Islam, despite the Administration’s attempts to convince us of that for so long. No, as the Administration has finally conceded, these attacks were the deliberate work of terrorists who use violence to impose their dark ideology on others, especially women and girls; who are fighting to control much of the Middle East today; and who seek to wage perpetual war on the West.

We saw all of this in Benghazi last month—but we also saw something else, something hopeful. After the attack on our Consulate, tens of thousands of Libyans, most of them young people, held a massive protest in Benghazi against the very extremists who murdered our people. They waved signs that read, “The Ambassador was Libya’s friend” and “Libya is sorry.” They chanted “No to militias.” They marched, unarmed, to the terrorist compound. Then they burned it to the ground. As one Libyan woman said, “We are not going to go from darkness to darkness.”

This is the struggle that is now shaking the entire Middle East to its foundation. It is the struggle of millions and millions of people—men and women, young and old, Muslims, Christians and non-believers—all of whom have had enough of the darkness. It is a struggle for the dignity that comes with freedom, and opportunity, and the right to live under laws of our own making. It is a struggle that has unfolded under green banners in the streets of Iran, in the public squares of Tunisia and Egypt and Yemen, and in the fights for liberty in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and Libya, and now Syria. In short, it is a struggle between liberty and tyranny, justice and oppression, hope and despair.

We have seen this struggle before. It would be familiar to George Marshall. In his time, in the ashes of world war, another critical part of the world was torn between democracy and despotism. Fortunately, we had leaders of courage and vision, both Republicans and Democrats, who knew that America had to support friends who shared our values, and prevent today’s crises from becoming tomorrow’s conflicts.

Statesmen like Marshall rallied our nation to rise to its responsibilities as the leader of the free world. We helped our friends to build and sustain free societies and free markets. We defended our friends, and ourselves, from our common enemies. We led. And though the path was long and uncertain, the thought of war in Europe is as inconceivable today as it seemed inevitable in the last century.

This is what makes America exceptional: It is not just the character of our country—it is the record of our accomplishments. America has a proud history of strong, confident, principled global leadership—a history that has been written by patriots of both parties. That is America at its best. And it is the standard by which we measure every President, as well as anyone who wishes to be President. Unfortunately, this President’s policies have not been equal to our best examples of world leadership. And nowhere is this more evident than in the Middle East.

I want to be very clear: The blame for the murder of our people in Libya, and the attacks on our embassies in so many other countries, lies solely with those who carried them out—no one else. But it is the responsibility of our President to use America’s great power to shape history—not to lead from behind, leaving our destiny at the mercy of events. Unfortunately, that is exactly where we find ourselves in the Middle East under President Obama.

The relationship between the President of the United States and the Prime Minister of Israel, our closest ally in the region, has suffered great strains. The President explicitly stated that his goal was to put “daylight” between the United States and Israel. And he has succeeded. This is a dangerous situation that has set back the hope of peace in the Middle East and emboldened our mutual adversaries, especially Iran.

Iran today has never been closer to a nuclear weapons capability. It has never posed a greater danger to our friends, our allies, and to us. And it has never acted less deterred by America, as was made clear last year when Iranian agents plotted to assassinate the Saudi Ambassador in our nation’s capital. And yet, when millions of Iranians took to the streets in June of 2009, when they demanded freedom from a cruel regime that threatens the world, when they cried out, “Are you with us, or are you with them?”—the American President was silent.

Across the greater Middle East, as the joy born from the downfall of dictators has given way to the painstaking work of building capable security forces, and growing economies, and developing democratic institutions, the President has failed to offer the tangible support that our partners want and need.

In Iraq, the costly gains made by our troops are being eroded by rising violence, a resurgent Al-Qaeda, the weakening of democracy in Baghdad, and the rising influence of Iran. And yet, America’s ability to influence events for the better in Iraq has been undermined by the abrupt withdrawal of our entire troop presence. The President tried—and failed—to secure a responsible and gradual drawdown that would have better secured our gains.

The President has failed to lead in Syria, where more than 30,000 men, women, and children have been massacred by the Assad regime over the past 20 months. Violent extremists are flowing into the fight. Our ally Turkey has been attacked. And the conflict threatens stability in the region.

America can take pride in the blows that our military and intelligence professionals have inflicted on Al-Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, including the killing of Osama bin Laden. These are real achievements won at a high cost. But Al-Qaeda remains a strong force in Yemen and Somalia, in Libya and other parts of North Africa, in Iraq, and now in Syria. And other extremists have gained ground across the region. Drones and the modern instruments of war are important tools in our fight, but they are no substitute for a national security strategy for the Middle East.

The President is fond of saying that “The tide of war is receding.” And I want to believe him as much as anyone. But when we look at the Middle East today—with Iran closer than ever to nuclear weapons capability, with the conflict in Syria threating [sic] to destabilize the region, with violent extremists on the march, and with an American Ambassador and three others dead likely at the hands of Al-Qaeda affiliates— it is clear that the risk of conflict in the region is higher now than when the President took office.

I know the President hopes for a safer, freer, and a more prosperous Middle East allied with the United States. I share this hope. But hope is not a strategy. We cannot support our friends and defeat our enemies in the Middle East when our words are not backed up by deeds, when our defense spending is being arbitrarily and deeply cut, when we have no trade agenda to speak of, and the perception of our strategy is not one of partnership, but of passivity.

The greater tragedy of it all is that we are missing an historic opportunity to win new friends who share our values in the Middle East—friends who are fighting for their own futures against the very same violent extremists, and evil tyrants, and angry mobs who seek to harm us. Unfortunately, so many of these people who could be our friends feel that our President is indifferent to their quest for freedom and dignity. As one Syrian woman put it, “We will not forget that you forgot about us.”

It is time to change course in the Middle East. That course should be organized around these bedrock principles: America must have confidence in our cause, clarity in our purpose and resolve in our might. No friend of America will question our commitment to support them… no enemy that attacks America will question our resolve to defeat them… and no one anywhere, friend or foe, will doubt America’s capability to back up our words.

I will put the leaders of Iran on notice that the United States and our friends and allies will prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. I will not hesitate to impose new sanctions on Iran, and will tighten the sanctions we currently have. I will restore the permanent presence of aircraft carrier task forces in both the Eastern Mediterranean and the Gulf region—and work with Israel to increase our military assistance and coordination. For the sake of peace, we must make clear to Iran through actions—not just words—that their nuclear pursuit will not be tolerated.

I will reaffirm our historic ties to Israel and our abiding commitment to its security—the world must never see any daylight between our two nations.

I will deepen our critical cooperation with our partners in the Gulf.

And I will roll back President Obama’s deep and arbitrary cuts to our national defense that would devastate our military. I will make the critical defense investments that we need to remain secure. The decisions we make today will determine our ability to protect America tomorrow. The first purpose of a strong military is to prevent war.

The size of our Navy is at levels not seen since 1916. I will restore our Navy to the size needed to fulfill our missions by building 15 ships per year, including three submarines. I will implement effective missile defenses to protect against threats. And on this, there will be no flexibility with Vladimir Putin. And I will call on our NATO allies to keep the greatest military alliance in history strong by honoring their commitment to each devote 2 percent of their GDP to security spending. Today, only 3 of the 28 NATO nations meet this benchmark.

I will make further reforms to our foreign assistance to create incentives for good governance, free enterprise, and greater trade, in the Middle East and beyond. I will organize all assistance efforts in the greater Middle East under one official with responsibility and accountability to prioritize efforts and produce results. I will rally our friends and allies to match our generosity with theirs. And I will make it clear to the recipients of our aid that, in return for our material support, they must meet the responsibilities of every decent modern government—to respect the rights of all of their citizens, including women and minorities… to ensure space for civil society, a free media, political parties, and an independent judiciary… and to abide by their international commitments to protect our diplomats and our property.

I will champion free trade and restore it as a critical element of our strategy, both in the Middle East and across the world. The President has not signed one new free trade agreement in the past four years. I will reverse that failure. I will work with nations around the world that are committed to the principles of free enterprise, expanding existing relationships and establishing new ones.

I will support friends across the Middle East who share our values, but need help defending them and their sovereignty against our common enemies.

In Libya, I will support the Libyan people’s efforts to forge a lasting government that represents all of them, and I will vigorously pursue the terrorists who attacked our consulate in Benghazi and killed Americans.

In Egypt, I will use our influence—including clear conditions on our aid—to urge the new government to represent all Egyptians, to build democratic institutions, and to maintain its peace treaty with Israel. And we must persuade our friends and allies to place similar stipulations on their aid.

In Syria, I will work with our partners to identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values and ensure they obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets. Iran is sending arms to Assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. We should be working no less vigorously with our international partners to support the many Syrians who would deliver that defeat to Iran—rather than sitting on the sidelines. It is essential that we develop influence with those forces in Syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the Middle East.

And in Afghanistan, I will pursue a real and successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014. President Obama would have you believe that anyone who disagrees with his decisions in Afghanistan is arguing for endless war. But the route to more war – and to potential attacks here at home – is a politically timed retreat that abandons the Afghan people to the same extremists who ravaged their country and used it to launch the attacks of 9/11. I will evaluate conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of our military commanders. And I will affirm that my duty is not to my political prospects, but to the security of the nation.

Finally, I will recommit America to the goal of a democratic, prosperous Palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with the Jewish state of Israel. On this vital issue, the President has failed, and what should be a negotiation process has devolved into a series of heated disputes at the United Nations. In this old conflict, as in every challenge we face in the Middle East, only a new President will bring the chance to begin anew.

There is a longing for American leadership in the Middle East—and it is not unique to that region. It is broadly felt by America’s friends and allies in other parts of the world as well— in Europe, where Putin’s Russia casts a long shadow over young democracies, and where our oldest allies have been told we are “pivoting” away from them … in Asia and across the Pacific, where China’s recent assertiveness is sending chills through the region … and here in our own hemisphere, where our neighbors in Latin America want to resist the failed ideology of Hugo Chavez and the Castro brothers and deepen ties with the United States on trade, energy, and security. But in all of these places, just as in the Middle East, the question is asked: “Where does America stand?”

I know many Americans are asking a different question: “Why us?” I know many Americans are asking whether our country today—with our ailing economy, and our massive debt, and after 11 years at war—is still capable of leading.

I believe that if America does not lead, others will—others who do not share our interests and our values—and the world will grow darker, for our friends and for us. America’s security and the cause of freedom cannot afford four more years like the last four years. I am running for President because I believe the leader of the free world has a duty, to our citizens, and to our friends everywhere, to use America’s great influence—wisely, with solemnity and without false pride, but also firmly and actively—to shape events in ways that secure our interests, further our values, prevent conflict, and make the world better—not perfect, but better.

Our friends and allies across the globe do not want less American leadership. They want more—more of our moral support, more of our security cooperation, more of our trade, and more of our assistance in building free societies and thriving economies. So many people across the world still look to America as the best hope of humankind. So many people still have faith in America. We must show them that we still have faith in ourselves—that we have the will and the wisdom to revive our stagnant economy, to roll back our unsustainable debt, to reform our government, to reverse the catastrophic cuts now threatening our national defense, to renew the sources of our great power, and to lead the course of human events.

Sir Winston Churchill once said of George Marshall: “He … always fought victoriously against defeatism, discouragement, and disillusion.” That is the role our friends want America to play again. And it is the role we must play.

The 21st century can and must be an American century. It began with terror, war, and economic calamity. It is our duty to steer it onto the path of freedom, peace, and prosperity.

The torch America carries is one of decency and hope. It is not America’s torch alone. But it is America’s duty – and honor – to hold it high enough that all the world can see its light.

Thank you, God bless you, and God bless the United States of America."



Transcript source: http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romney-foreign -policy-speech-vmi-obama-virginia-military-institu te-libya-2012-10

(Message edited by fb1 on October 09, 2012)
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was a good speech. I enjoyed watching it and was pleased and even surprised to hear a potential president speak so boldly and patriotically. WE need a fearless leader.

What has been done regarding the Libya incident so far besides attempting to cover it up?

Obama called the foreign policy speech "chest thumping".
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reagan would have and did, have the Aardvarks in the air before the end of the week, bombs on target, and a firm and clear response.

Not a hopey changey kinda wish we could be friends thingy that came outta DC in September.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

America, Finally Seeing the Real Mitt Romney
Ron Futrell, Oct 10, 2012

The media is trying to figure out how this happened.

How could Mitt Romney be blasting his way to the top of the polls after just one debate?

Would you like a very simple answer? Here it is: The media tried to tell America that Romney was one thing, while the debate showed them he was another. The difference between the two are seen in the poll numbers. It really is that simple.



Source, and read more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/09 /America-Finally-Seeing-The-Real-Mitt-Romney
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Direct link to video: http://youtu.be/J_cGyPwt5UI
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mark Levin rocks.

quote:

Mark Levin Blasts Off: Romney Almost Standing Alone on Libya Cover-Up
Uploaded by DailyRushbo on Oct 10, 2012

Find More @ http://www.DailyRushbo.com




Direct link to video: http://youtu.be/DXGks32iSNE
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

R&R - 2
0&B - 0

Three and a half weeks until we take back America...

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6gears
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJWKccHQFOA&feature =related

SO TRUE!
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brilliant prediction by Breitbart earlier today:

quote:

Paul Ryan Should Be Prepared to Debate Tonight's Moderator
John Nolte, Oct 11, 2012

Judging from what I'm seeing from our corrupt media overlords today, it's pretty apparent, GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan will be outnumbered by two-to-one in tonight's debate.

...Past is prologue, and I'm much less concerned by the fact that Barack Obama was a guest at the wedding of tonight's moderator, than I am with her performance as a questioner in a 1990 debate that dramatically shifted the momentum of a gubernatorial race in Massachusetts. Rather than stay out of the way, she hammered away at a candidate the media did not approve of and apparently did some real damage.

That's not a debate moderator's job. That's the job of the opponent and if the opponent chooses not to raise certain issues, that doesn't mean the referee is supposed to jump in and make the tackle for him. This is a debate between two individuals, not a press conference or television interview.



Source, and read more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/11 /Paul-Ryan-Will-have-To-Debate-Moderator
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who's it gonna be, America?




http://youtu.be/PCtemaHgjyA
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's it gonna be, America?


quote:

Thomas Peterffy - Freedom To Succeed
Published on Oct 10, 2012 by Thomas Peterffy

Thomas Peterffy grew up in socialist Hungary. Despite the fact that he could not speak English when he immigrated to the United States in 1956, Thomas fulfilled the American dream. With hard work and dedication, he started a business that today employs thousands of people. In the 1970s, Thomas bought a seat on the American Stock Exchange. He played a key role in developing the electronic trading of securities and is the founder of Interactive Brokers, an online discount brokerage firm with offices all over the world.




Direct link to video: http://youtu.be/UnX7TNFIELg
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Morning Bell: Heritage Experts React to Vice Presidential Debate
Rob Bluey, Oct 12, 2012

Vice President Biden and Representative Paul Ryan squared off last night for a spirited and intense 90-minute debate at Centre College in Danville, KY. Topics ranged from foreign to domestic, touching on serious issues that Heritage policy experts grapple with every day.

While many commentators were critiquing style, a team of 19 Heritage experts cut through the malarkey and focused on substance. They reacted instantly to the debate last night, providing policy research on the multitude of questions raised by moderator and ABC News correspondent Martha Raddatz. Below are some of the highlights of our experts’ reactions to the major issues addressed.



Source, and read the entire article, here: http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/12/morning-bell-h eritage-experts-react-to-vice-presidential-debate/ ?roi=echo3-13421356077-9955979-5564caccd6c0823f042 e07b0517ddec9&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Ema il&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell
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Aussie2126
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow,

He came to America when the marginal tax rates were 91%, accumulated his wealth throughout the Nixon Ford Carter years when it was 70%, did not (as far as we know) run any ads at the end of Reagans first term when it was 50%, but now that there is some TALK about raising back up to 39%, WELL that is socialism and the sky is certainly falling.

Thomas Peterffy is an idiot!!
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sigh.

You are either willfully ignorant, or you are willfully misrepresenting the truth.

I know you've been told about the tax loopholes that were closed as those high rates were brought down (rates that no one actually paid) so I suppose it could be either, since I have no idea whether you actually read the responses to your posts.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aussie2126 said:

quote:

Thomas Peterffy is an idiot!!



Interesting opinion.

Why do you demonize success?
Why do you demonize someone who recognized and escaped socialism?
Why do you demonize someone who recognizes that people who continually receive welfare become dependent and lose their incentive to better themselves?
Why are you rude? Very Bidenesque.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe Biden is an idiot!!

There, fixed it for you.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is not just the tax rate, it is the ability and liability of being to open your own shop, create your own business, and start your own success.
When you stamp regulation after law after edict after license after tax - the ability to start a new endeaver vanishes quickly.

You can start with the 8.4 % that the Social Security Admin takes from you right off the top, and the 4.3 for every employee you hire.
go from there - slice and widdle away the pie - you will find that is exceeding difficult and expensive to open a business that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the product, service, or delivery of said.
This is not a business friendly environment.

and don't even get me started on trying to secure capital lending in this climate.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On taxes
Those of the elite will always have their way out of it, those of the poor could never pay it from the beginning; so the middle is squeezed by power, threats, and tax to carry the burden.... until the middle decides that it too does not wish to pay the tax ; and either 1) turns to crime 2) works off books 3) joins the entitlement bunch 4) imprisioned for one of the above 5) die off in sufficient numbers that the system needs to be start again. .....
6) or we rise up and start a little insurrection against the King, Czar, etc.

History - damn its a biatch.
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Aussie2126
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did not demonize his success.
I did not demonize him escaping Communism (there is a difference).
I do believe that his message is insincere.

If a 50% rate at the end of Reagans first term is OK, Then in 1984 was he a socialist?
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Strokizator
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aussie, the argument would only be valid if we could both see what his adjusted gross income was in those years. Then you can divide the tax he paid by his total income before deductions and get his effective tax rate. Somehow I doubt that it was 91% or even 50%. So to quote tax rates before legal deductions are taken is misleading at best.

Of course, people who've never made much money wouldn't know this.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If a 50% rate at the end of Reagans first term is OK, Then in 1984 was he a socialist?

Really? What direction did he take it? Realize too, he did this working with those on the other side of the isle, i.e., he had to make compromises.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jealousy rears its ugly greeneyed head.

Ever notice who calls any one with more than them Greedy

Underachievers always find fault with anyone but themselves
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do >> believe << that his message is insincere.

Perception, and bias, normal ...

Man grows up behind the iron curtain
comes to America
succeeds

Sees our well intentioned but misguided leaders and sees the warning signs and like
others here puts up an alarm from his own pocket.

Not an idiot....

I listened to the calls to c-span last night after the debate
To a one the Dems and obama independents were rambling or simple minded folk who bought the VPs' lies
Or were on about various non sequitors
The republicans were much more reasoned and seemed to be focused.

Biden did a better job than obama but it was still a poor showing.

Well done Mr Ryan.....
He is smart enough to know that you dont argue with a FOOL ...}
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog, with all due respect:

quote:

Biden did a better different job than obama but it was still a poor showing.



You're welcome. : )
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To a one the Dems and obama independents were rambling or simple minded folk who bought the VPs' lies
Or were on about various non sequitors
The republicans were much more reasoned and seemed to be focused.


For you folks keeping score, the guy on the left is a Democrat, the guy on the right is a Republican:



Any questions?
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