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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Romney: The Role of Government (1st Presidential Debate, Oct 3, 2012)





"Well, first, I love great schools. Massachusetts, our schools are ranked number one of all 50 states. And the key to great schools: great teachers. So I reject the idea that I don't believe in great teachers or more teachers. Every school district, every state should make that decision on their own. The role of government -- look behind us: the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. The role of government is to promote and protect the principles of those documents. First, life and liberty. We have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means the military, second to none. I do not believe in cutting our military. I believe in maintaining the strength of America's military. Second, in that line that says, we are endowed by our Creator with our rights -- I believe we must maintain our commitment to religious tolerance and freedom in this country. That statement also says that we are endowed by our Creator with the right to pursue happiness as we choose. I interpret that as, one, making sure that those people who are less fortunate and can't care for themselves are cared by -- by one another. We're a nation that believes that we're all children of the same God. And we care for those that have difficulties -- those that are elderly and have problems and challenges, those that disabled, we care for them. And we look for discovery and innovation, all these things desired out of the American heart to provide the pursuit of happiness for our citizens. But we also believe in maintaining for individuals the right to pursue their dreams, and not to have the government substitute itself for the rights of free individuals. And what we're seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle-down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. And it's not working. And the proof of that is 23 million people out of work. The proof of that is one out of six people in poverty. The proof of that is we've gone from 32 million on food stamps to 47 million on food stamps. The proof of that is that 50 percent of college graduates this year can't find work. The path we're taking is not working. It is time for a new path."

Direct link to video: http://youtu.be/gaKrot67d7E

Transcription courtesy American Thinker: http://www.americanthinker.com/video/2012/10/romne y_the_role_of_government_1st_presidential_debate.h tml
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 06:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...until tonight, Obama has been defining Romney...

Until tonight, the MEDIA has been defining Romney.

R: 1
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sometimes... I think people should say things out loud before writing them down or posting on the internet.

I mean, actually sound out the words slowly and think about it.

Might cut down on some of the foolishness.

Barry got schooled and it will only get worse for him.
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Whistler
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I feel better about things in general this morning. Wonder if US and world business concerns are moving with more of a purpose today?
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Barry got schooled and it will only get worse for him.

+1.




Direct link to video: http://youtu.be/dKMUHcgsbag
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB, that is rough to watch.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FtB, I've never seen that look from 0bama before; not sure what to make of it.

There's no question he didn't want to be there (I'm surprised he didn't break out in hives) and was totally unprepared for actually having to debate (instead of being adored and worshipped) for a change, but that look............. ???

One down, three to go, and an election.

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The government is not affective at bringing down the cost of anything"
Classic
The 3% of MediCare Cost overhead is because they auto-approve any EDI claim with a TIN and a Modem. and they chase fraud as an ad-hoc exception rather than an integral dedicated wheel to the machine.
Private insurance pends and denies - rather than pay and pursue - it costs more to do.... but the financial stability of NEVER sending bad checks out to begin with far outweighs the 'lower' cost of rubber stamping anything through the window.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FtB, I've never seen that look from 0bama before; not sure what to make of it.

It was an uncomfortable smile to cover less than happy emotions.

I think there is embarrassment.

I think there is anger.

I think there is frustration.

I think there is indignation.


What you are seeing is a President who was never vetted and has NEVER been questioned or tested by anyone up to this point.

I can almost guarantee you that the next format will be better managed. As Chris Matthews said, "this wasn't an MSNBC debate was it".

Deep down, Progressive "journalists" KNOW they have abdicated all responsibility for seeking the truth and have chosen to protect a candidate who shares their ideology.

Chris Matthews is angry not just because the candidate who share's his ideology did poorly, but because his poor performance illuminates and reveals Matthews' journalistic malfeasance.

It also explains why the spin, after the shock last night, has begun in earnest. CNN and MSNBC are working to cover themselves as much as Obama at this point.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Matthews and the rest of his feckless lapdog media pals are not journalists.

Entertainers, a la professional wrestling? In spades.

But not journalists.

I bet Chrissy cried all night.

Back to The Look: I've only seen something close to this twice before, once when Ryan was taking 0bama to school over 0bamacare, and once when Netanyahu was taking 0bama to school over how to be a leader.

In both occasions the ch0sen 0ne looked troubled, but in a different way: condescending, aloof, superior, arrogant.

Last night was somehow different.

I can understand why he probably felt like his skin was on fire, but that smirk was odd, IMO.



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12 Million Jobs
Published on Oct 4, 2012 by mittromney


Mitt Romney will create 12 million new jobs, when President Obama couldn't. Through his policies including tax reform, expanding trade and cracking down on China, he'll create over 12 million new jobs and get our country back on track.




Direct link to video: http://youtu.be/BsHoWjzicUA


I'm Ferris Bueller, and I approve this message.



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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahahahahahahahahahah!

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Xb9er
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mitt looked really good and strong last night. I was impressed. To bad factchecker.com said they both lied through their teeth about everything.
Poor Jim Lehrer, being told by mitt himself that if mitt got elected jim was going to be out of a job. Maybe we can get it right in another life.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To bad factchecker.com said they both lied through their teeth about everything.

Link please.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CNN? Never mind.

quote:

Brooks Jackson
Director, FactCheck.org

Brooks Jackson is a journalist who has covered Washington and national politics since 1970, reporting in turn for the Associated Press, the Wall Street Journal and CNN. He joined the Annenberg Public Policy Center in 2003 and launched FactCheck.org in December of that year.

At CNN, he pioneered the “adwatch” and “factcheck” form of stories debunking false and misleading political statements, starting with the presidential election of 1992.



Source: http://factcheck.org/about/

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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>To bad factchecker.com said they both lied through their teeth about everything.

Data please.

Without it you sounds too much like the "Hope and Change" kid . . . . . wait . . wait . . let me guess . . you're going to cut the deficit in half, save the auto industry and lower unemployment.

I'm sick and tired of liars.

Back it up or sit on the sidelines . . . we're not allowing amateurs to run our country any longer.

CHANGE TOPIC: If you have NOT donated to Romney, please consider it. Every donation, $5, $10 . . anything helps. It's a money game from here to the finish line.

If you HAVE donated to Romney, please consider doing so again. Every donation, $5, $10 . . anything helps. It's a money game from here to the finish line.

I love my country and want it back.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100008723963904436 35404578034344057668204.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADT op

"It is safe to say that no one expected or predicted that Barack Obama could be so pushed off his game or look so flustered in a contest of articulating ideas"

I think the author has been living under a rock. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the president can't operate without a prompter and speech written by someone else. His drubbing last night was thoroughly predictable. The VP will fare far worse.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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FactCheck.org is a non-partisan,[1] nonprofit[2] website that describes itself as a "'consumer advocate' for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics." [3] It is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania, and is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.[3]




Hmmmm, Annenberg Foundation?


quote:

The Annenberg Foundation is a private foundation that provides funding and support to non-profit organizations in the United States and around the world.[1] Some of the foundation's core initiatives are the 'Annenberg/Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) project (now Annenberg Learner), which funds many educational television shows broadcast on Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) Public television in the United States...




Hmmmm, CPB and PBS?


quote:

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) is a non-profit corporation created by an act of the United States Congress and funded by the United States federal government to promote public broadcasting. Between 15 and 20 percent of the aggregate revenues of all public broadcasting stations have been funded from federal sources, principally through the CPB.[1]

The CPB was created on November 7, 1967, when U.S. president Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Public Broadcasting Act of 1967. The new organization initially collaborated with the pre-existing National Educational Television network. In 1969, the CPB talked to private groups to start the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS).[2] In 1970, the CPB formed National Public Radio (NPR), a radio network consisting of public stations.[2]




quote:

The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) is a non-profit American public broadcasting television network with 354 member TV stations in the United States which hold collective ownership.[2] Its headquarters is in Arlington, Virginia.




Hmmmm, NPR?


quote:

NPR, formerly National Public Radio,[1][2] is a privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization that serves as a national syndicator to a network of 900 public radio stations in the United States.[3]




Say, doesn't Jim Lehrer have some connection to all of this??

Everyone has an agenda.

Including FactCheck.org.

Source: Wikipedia (all)

(Message edited by fb1 on October 04, 2012)
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Notpurples2
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm assuming he meant FactCheck.org, learn how to work the Google Machine guys.
http://factcheck.org/2012/10/dubious-denver-debate -declarations/

Obama accused Romney of proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. Not true. Romney proposes to offset his rate cuts and promises he won't add to the deficit.

Romney again promised to not reduce the taxes paid by high-income Americansand also to lower taxes on middle-income families,but didn't say how he could possibly accomplish that without also increasing the deficit.

Obama oversold his health care law, claiming that health care premiums have gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.That's true of health care spending, but not premiums. And the health care law had little to do with the slowdown in overall spending.

Romney claimed a new board established by the Affordable Care Act is going to tell people ultimately what kind of treatments they can have.Not true. The board only recommends cost-saving measures for Medicare, and is legally forbidden to ration care or reduce benefits.

Obama said 5 million private-sector jobs had been created in the past 30 months. Perhaps so, but that counts jobs that the Bureau of Labor Statistics wonft add to the official monthly tallies until next year. For now, the official tally is a bit over 4.6 million.

Romney accused Obama of doubling the federal deficit. Not true. The annual deficit was already running at $1.2 trillion when Obama took office.

Obama again said hefd raise taxes on upper-income persons only to the rates that we had when Bill Clinton was president.Actually, many high-income persons would pay more than they did then, because of new taxes in Obama's health care law.

Romney claimed that middle-income Americans have seen their income come down by $4,300.That's too high. Census figures show the decline in median household income during Obama's first three years was $2,492, even after adjusting for inflation.

Obama again touted his $4 trilliondeficit reduction plan, which includes $1 trillion from winding down wars that are coming to an end in any event.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Fox News Draws Record Numbers for Debate, 58 Million Watch Overall
Ben Shapiro, Oct 4, 2012

While the rest of the media seethes of Mitt Romney’s big win last night, Fox News – the most fair and balanced news network -- can bask in the glow of high ratings. During the presidential debate, Fox News drew 10.4 million viewers, with about 3 million in the coveted 25-54 demographic. That was Fox News’ highest-rated debate ever. CNN came in second, at 6 million viewers; MSNBC brought up the rear, with Chris Matthews’ leg-tingling performance drawing a mere 4.7 million. Each of the three broadcast networks garnered approximately 10 million viewers.



Source: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/04 /Fox-News-draws-10-million-viewers-58-million-tota l
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm assuming he meant FactCheck.org, learn how to work the Google Machine guys.

Please see related post: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=4062&post=2269621#POST2269621

In the meantime, I'll continue to work on my search skills...
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CHANGE TOPIC: If you have NOT donated to Romney, please consider it. Every donation, $5, $10 . . anything helps. It's a money game from here to the finish line.

If you HAVE donated to Romney, please consider doing so again. Every donation, $5, $10 . . anything helps. It's a money game from here to the finish line.



quote:


This election is a clear choice: We can either stay on the path we’re on, or forge a new one.

It was pretty clear on the stage last night: Mitt is the man America must choose to move forward with on November 6.

Seize this day and donate: https://www.mittromney.com/donate/clear-choice/?sc =INTVIS002

In case you missed it, here are a few debate highlights.


quote:

Published on Oct 4, 2012 by mittromney


During last night's debate, we saw the clear choice facing voters in this campaign. President Obama can't defend his record and has no new ideas to run on. Mitt Romney clearly demonstrated that he is a leader who will create jobs, turn around our economy, and work across the aisle. We can't afford four more years like the last four years.





Direct link to video: http://youtu.be/IGm47IIRQhc

Donate here: https://www.mittromney.com/donate/clear-choice/?sc =INTVIS002
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



quote:

Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney rhetorically charged at President Barack Obama in their first presidential debate at the University of Denver on Wednesday in a clash that was notable for Romney's aggressiveness and Obama's reluctance to engage in a direct fight. Like a bull to a matador, Romney time and again turned toward Obama to deliver attacks on the president's job performance, portraying him as clueless to his policies' impacts and hopeless in trying to turn the economy around.



Image source: http://webmedia.newseum.org/newseum-multimedia/dfp /jpg4/lg/CO_DP.jpg

Text transcription: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/04 /Denver-Post-Headline-Round-1-Romney
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Xb9er
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NotPurples2 thank you. I did mean .org
No I will not donate to a man who can write a check to fund his whole campaign.
As in blue writing Court there is your proof. Add their twitter to yours for the next debate for almost instant facts. Like I said before they both were faking the funk. Mitt looked so good that if I had to vote today I would vote mitt, however, coming off that cloud he didn't say how he would do what he wants to do. That is info I need to get my vote. I still don't know who is getting my vote.
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Xb9er
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://twitter.com/factcheckdotorg
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still don't know who is getting my vote.

Chris, when you were serving overseas, did you have bullets in your rifle? Yes? Good, that's the way it's SUPPOSED to be.

If so, what would you have said if you were ordered to disarm before being allowed to listen to a pep talk from the Sec of Defense?

If you were ordered to guard a US embassy, but told your weapon had to be "inert," what would you say?

If you were president, what would you say to Ambassador Stevens' grieving mother, or the parents of the two Navy SEALS who were killed in the attack in Benghazi?

If you were president, what would you say to Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry's grieving parents, knowing he was killed with a gun YOU walked into Mexico? (Do you know what his last words were as he bled out? He said to his buddy who was holding and comforting him, "I can't feel my legs."

As a former military man, how does that make you feel?

It makes me FURIOUS!

PS, one more: You still feel like FactCheck.org is giving you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Thanks.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, but they are just dead people. We kill 'em by the thousands around here. Some by bullet, some by bomb, some by noose. Some aren't even born yet and we kill them by the thousands.

We shouldn't let a half dozen deaths as a direct result of Obama's policies dissuade us from moving forward, should we?
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Add their twitter to yours for the next debate for almost instant facts. Like I said before they both were faking the funk. Mitt looked so good that if I had to vote today I would vote mitt, however, coming off that cloud he didn't say how he would do what he wants to do. That is info I need to get my vote.

As opposed to those who are on record with huge legislation saying "you have to pass it to find out what's in it"?

Actually Romney did get into the how. He got into how there are a number of ways his goals can be achieved. It is up to him to work with both sides of Congress to get them to work out details to achieve those stated goals. Yes that is lacking in details, but it it full of how you actually get things done in government if you want to achieve even halfway decent legislation. When Romney explained all of this BO retorted "that's what I've been doing". Romney then pointed out that he's had 4 years to get this done, and hasn't made any progress yet. BO is no leader. Romney is a proven leader. The choice is clear.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The difficulty is that to have a government provided solution, you have to have 2000+ of legislation to document all the rules and procedures that must be followed to make government centered solutions work.

There are far fewer details needed to reduce the size and scope of government, reduce taxes, and allow individuals seeking to secure and realize their own American dream to do such.



Those without ambition or ability or imagination or aspiration need someone else to provide them with a detailed plan, a path to follow in order to realize success and prosperity.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I love my country and want it back.




That's why I donated to the Romney Ryan campaign this morning.

Free the next generation from a future of economic slavery.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We have donated three times, #4 is coming up. R&R 2012



This is Just. Freaking. Awesome:

quote:

Voices Without A Vote

Published on Jul 4, 2012 by networktalkradio

http://www.Liberty2012.tk

The teenagers who speak in this video belong to http://www.im2moro.org. These young people realize that if they don't stand up and speak out for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness today, they will be living in a very different America tomorrow.





Direct link to video: http://youtu.be/VuCaWYvpVZg


These young people GET it. I am humbled by their patriotism.



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