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Masmo
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys. Due to lack of interested on craigslist and an insulting trade in offer from the HD dealer, I am parting out my 2000 Cyclone to come up with money for a firebolt next season.

Anyways, I see that a lot of people avoid paypal in the classified section. Should I do the same? Have people been getting scammed via paypal?
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've used paypal successfully numerous times, for various transactions, and never had any problems with scammers or getting ripped off. I'm thinking that most tend to avoid it due to the fees charged by them. Cash, handed over by an actual human in one's presence is always best, but not always possible in this new world-wide economy.
Use of common sense is vital when dealing with any internet contacts. ANY response that involves Western Union for payment is a scam. Always.
If you don't mind parting with a small transaction fee, go ahead with paypal.
You're not going to do much better on the parted out bike than selling it intact. Plus there's a lot of extra work involved that takes your time that will never get recompensed. Is it worth it? You need to decide.

Al
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got screwed on paypal once and never went back
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46champ
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would try a couple of other online sites before I resorted to parting it out. My major beef with craigslist is it is too localized and they allow too many other things to be in something under the heading of Buell or anything else. If I have to look in more than 5 locations I'm done.
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Court
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Al said.

I got burned BIG on eBay once (the same folks who own PayPal) and after than have been SUPER cautious.

It's easy to end up with money and merchandise gone and if you EVER need ANY help from them . . . . . kiss your ass good-bye.

The "guarantees" and so forth are less than worthless.

What Al said.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I parted out a KLR-250 parts bike once. I just needed the head from it, and was going to sell the rest. $250 for a new head, or $450 for a complete parts bike, I figured it was a slam dunk.

After the gas for the drive to get it, the labor to take it apart, the work to list the stuff on various forums and sites, the people that stiffed me for sales, and the general all around headaches... never again, and I probably still lost money on the whole deal.

If you do try and do it, sell fewer big batches rather then many small batches. And obviously, the single big batch is to just sell the bike for what the market will actually bear. Don't confuse "what you paid for it" with "what it's worth". I traded in a 2000 M2 in very good running order for $3500 back in 2005. It was a good deal for me... the dealer eventually sold the thing on ebay about a year later for $3200. I was tempted to buy it back. : )

I'd think a decent M2 on Craigslist for $2000 ought to sell in under a week, and you are just done with it.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CL is the the crack of the internet. I swear you will see the widest divergent segments of population - all playing to the lowest denominator ; being sarcasm, money, effort, loyalty, responsibility.
If you want to find how wrong things can go - post an ad up and watch.
I used to sell bikes from it for a wholesale company - 80 % of it was time wasters and moto masturbators looking to eat your time, and prove their superiority of knowledge on YOUR product.

Look no further than the epic of the guy selling cinder blocks for a dollar.

CL is indeed your last resort.

It is one notch above the Nigerian Prince and his 'lottery' .... and if you place an ad - you will of course hear from 'HIM'

I would code the ad into italian and post it to the facebook side of Buell enthusiasts there before I cut it up !
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to elaborate further.
I used PP many times with no issues, and was pleased with their services, even with the 3% charge.
It wasnt until I was selling headlights from a BMW Mcoupe that I got burned. Headlights sold for $4XX (sorry, cant recall exact price they sold for, plus shipping), shipped them out, and a couple weeks letter here comes an email from PP.
Seller claimed to have never gotten the package.
We showed proof of shipment and STILL had to pay back the 400+ bucks.

That is when I quit.

Like Court stated "It's easy to end up with money and merchandise gone and if you EVER need ANY help from them . . . . . kiss your ass good-bye.

The "guarantees" and so forth are less than worthless.
"
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wonder how many people who proclaim internet commerce vulnerabilities will then hand their VISA over to a complete stranger to buy a dinner or car parts.

Wonder how many will register at school and give a complete stranger thier DOB, SSN, Name and Address? (heck, it's a LEGIT thing to REFUSE to give your SSN to a college - or anybody else asking to use it for ID - except the Military) - I'm weird like that. I still refuse to allow the FAA to use my SSN for my pilots licenses.
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01x1buell
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i use paypal and have never had a problem yet.Just the charges the give to you.
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i try to use the post count and member registration as a guide to someone's trustworthy-ness on here.
i like to see a personable profile page and more than a year registered with a thousand posts or so (more on the registration time, cuz not everybody is a post-w#0re) also look and see where and what they posted. ... if all thier posts read like they are a d-bag, they probaly are.
with that; i have had no problems using paypal to by and sell on here.

of my few sales on e-bay; i've only sold smll items to people that have had good ratings and feedback. the e-bay feedback system has improved with it's double-blindness
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and on Craigslist: i include pics, but list a phone number instead of an e-mail address. a landline # would be best to use so they actually have to call and talk to you.
i do the same for buying on craigslist ( call instead of text, or send an e-mail with my phone # )

i like craigslist except for thier firearms policy, and have had some good experinces with using it that way.
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

.... yep, i'm one of those poster's
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Masmo
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2012 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I decided to part it out for a few reasons, one being that the dealer only wanted to give me $1500 and after a month on CL I kept getting lowball offers like $1000 and had about 10 people who wanted to come look at it that never showed up. Each time they were supposed to come I had to drive a half hour to where the bike is stored (my new house doesn't have a garage and I didn't want to park it on the street). Plus I remember parts failing on my bike and it being pretty tough to find replacements (especially on the shock absorber). I would rather see my bike act as a donor to badwebbers who need the parts.

Anyways, maybe I will give paypal a shot. I would go the money order route, except I feel that people will trust buying parts for me more through paypal. That way their payment is logged and they get a tracking number. Just wanted to see what you guys thought about people using paypal to scam people out of money.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2012 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have not personally had any issues with Paypal or Craigslist that coudln't be fixed easily. That's not to say there aren't holes in the system, there are.

For Paypal, tell the person to send the money as a gift and not as payment for goods. This makes THEM pay the fee (only fair, or they can mail you a check or money order), and it protects you if they try to pull anything after the sale. Afterall, the fee is paying for the convienence of getting the seller the money faster so the buyer can get the item faster, so the buyer should pay it.

For Craigslist, people not showing up is the biggest problem. You'll get a lot of spam emails, but they're easy to identify, generally. Don't make appointments to show what you're selling. Tell whoever wants to see that you'll be home between a given time and to show up whenever in that time frame. If they show, great. If not, it doesn't matter because you were going to be there anyway. If you do have to make an appointment, and especially if you have to go somewhere else to show the bike, tell them to call you when they're on their way, otherwise don't bother making any effort to be there.

I love buying on craigslist. Everything is generally cheaper than you'll find on eBay, and when you call someone or send them an email looking to make the purchase THAT DAY, they're generally willing to let some more cash go and give you a better price.

Also, use www.searchallcraigs.com to look for things nation-wide or regionally. It's come in handy to get parts and things that are easy to ship for the person selling.
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