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Cecil1
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He is gonna be the next VP..... and what had Obama done prior to his election to POTUS again I forget.....


PRESENT!!!!!!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

heard his talking points on the medical reform bill - I dig this guy; big time.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> He's had almost 10 years of Republican majority to reduce the deficit

Your math sucks.

Republicans lost the house in 2006. Eight years is "almost ten years"? No, it's not even almost nine. It's just eight.

No budget passed by Dem controlled senat going towards four years now.

They should all be fired.

Didn't cut deficit? Quite a reach to blame a single congressman for that, all in the midst of 9/11, recession, and two wars. What he didn't do was fail to pass a budget. He sure didn't ring up year after year of trillion plus deficits, increase spending by 10% in the midst of deep recession, demonize success, or wage a game of race-baiting and lies.

O did that.

How anyone with any self-respect can support these lying coniving scheming Democrats defies reason, self-respect and common sense.



Amazing how ignorant of facts some are when the inaccuracies aim to malign a member of the other party, usually a Republican.

Be ashamed.

(Message edited by Blake on August 14, 2012)
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Watch the media. They have far more power than any realize. Are they still towing the Kenyan's line?

It sure seems so to me.

Justice needs to happen. Tyrants threaten.
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If Ryan was on the Democratic ticket, then the Left would be shouting from the mountain top about a return to Camelot. He is handsome, bright, and young. He will be attractive to women as they know how to run a household. Women will recognize Ryan's plain talk and straight forwardness will help solve the problems that the Left is in denial over.

Luckily, Ryan is our guy and he will probably be President in 2016 or 2020.

My second contribution for R&R is ready for launch.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

House Budget Trailer: America Deserves A Better Path:


The Path To Prosperity, Part One:


Part Two:


Part Three:



Mr. Paul Ryan, ladies and gentleman. A politician who actually believes in YOU.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>No budget passed by Dem controlled senat going towards four years now.

Wait.

That can't be true. Federal law REQUIRES them to pass a budget.

You need to check your facts. They'd be in violation of FEDERAL LAW if what you say is true.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They can't violate the law... They ARE the law!

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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mitt Romney to the good people of Ohio, August 14, 2012:

quote:

Over the last four years, this President has pushed Republicans and Democrats as far apart as they can go. And now he and his allies are pushing us all even further apart by dividing us into groups. He demonizes some. He panders to others. His campaign strategy is to smash America apart and then cobble together 51 percent of the pieces.

If an American president wins that way, we all lose.

But he won’t win that way. America is one Nation under God. American history has been a story of the many becoming one - uniting to preserve liberty, uniting to build the greatest economy in the world, uniting to save the world from unspeakable darkness. Everywhere I go in America there are monuments that list those who have given their lives. There is no mention of their race, their party affiliation or what they did for a living. They lived and died under a single flag fighting for a single purpose. They pledged allegiance to the United States of America. So, Mr. President, take your campaign of division and anger and hate back to Chicago and let us get about rebuilding and reuniting America.



Source: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/14 /Romney-ready-to-break-out

Well said, sir, well said.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was very well said. The slicing of our population into competing groups has been a evil that has bothered me in politics for many years. To make things worse, they are all simply competing to get government handouts. This a terrible way to buy votes.
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My apologies, my earlier Ryan post is based on an incorrect blog post on Slate. That blogger has also apologized for not checking further than the blog he got it from; that blogger seems to have mislead on purpose.

Gotta love the internet, lots of info much of it just made up.

I do like the line I saw, "the far right and the far left both love Ryan because he will help win the election for them. One of them is very wrong."
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Politics of zero sum game. There is only one finite pie and for me to get more, you have to get less. Expansion om my liberty is predicated upon a curtailment of yours.

It's creating a political narrative framework in which we, the voters, must decide who's baby to eat first.

Ridiculous.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

davegess,

It is a fair assumption that you do not support Ryan. Since he is from the state that you live in, would you share the reasons why you don't support him? Thanks.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gotta love the internet, lots of info much of it just made up.

It's gotten almost as bad as the news media!
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This a terrible way to buy votes.

It is, truly, the difference between a "career" politician, i.e. someone who will do or say anything to keep their job (and all the perks that come with it), and a "patriotic" politician, someone who courageously speaks the truth, regardless of the possible political fallout.

I believe that Mitt Romney is a Patriot.

I also believe that Paul Ryan is a Patriot.

When they say they want to rebuild and reunite (R and R - nice!) America, I believe them.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Rep. Paul Ryan Vs. President Obama
Published on Apr 10, 2012 by Forbes

Chairman of the House Budget Committee Congressman Paul Ryan on what the GOP needs to focus on in the 2012 presidential election to win back the White House. From his keynote address at the George W. Bush Presidential Center's Tax Policies for 4% Growth Conference at the New York Historical Society:







You - liberal, conservative, and everybody else - owe it to yourself to watch and listen to Mr. Ryan display his leadership skills and mastery of our budget crisis in the speech embedded above. No teleprompter, barely refers to his notes, no empty, divisive, race-bating rhetoric, just a solid command of the situation....and of himself.

Career politician? Pay particular attention to what he says beginning at the 6:10 mark.

I'm seeing our next Vice President.

And....I'm seeing our future President.

America, it's time for some R&R.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

watch and listen to Mr. Ryan display his leadership skills and mastery of our budget crisis in the speech embedded above. No teleprompter, barely refers to his notes, no empty, divisive, race-bating rhetoric, just a solid command of the situation....and of himself.

You can do that when you are competent. The incompetent need to stay close to the provided cliff notes.
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just typed a whole long thing but basically he is a conservative Republican and I am a liberal Democrat. From what I have seen of him I suspect I would like him and wouldn't mind having a few beers with the guy. Just not gonna vote for him.

(Message edited by davegess on August 15, 2012)
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DG,
Sorry that you deleted your post. I am just trying to understand you as it amazes me that anyone would ever consider voting for Obama. We both seem to be from the hippie-ish era but have embarked on different trajectories. Ignore the trolls and snipers from any side but you already know that.
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Julie
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul Ryan voted for two wars, unpaid for. He voted for the massive Bush Tax Cuts, unpaid for. He voted to expand Medicare, he voted for TARP, he voted for the bank bailout, all unpaid for. He's now a hypocrite by calling himself conservative. Paul Ryan is just another version of George W. Bush.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Julie, I just Googled "Paul Ryan voted for two wars, unpaid for. He voted for the massive Bush Tax Cuts, unpaid for. He voted to expand Medicare, he voted for TARP, he voted for the bank bailout, all unpaid for."

It's amazing the number of websites (reddit.com, chronicle.augusta.com, hamptonroads,com just to name a few) that came up where someone made the exact same comment, word for frikkin' word.

Anyway, SOMEBODY said it first. If it was you (and even if it wasn't), please elaborate in detail, so that I may make a more-informed choice come November.

Thank you.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure is easy to spew talking points.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are our 500,000,000 shares of GM worth today?

I know the hit I took in the market . . interesting to see the America public, under Barack's guiding hand, take the same shaft.

Makes the $538,000,000 we lost on Solyndra look like kid's play.

Government needs to get the out of the way of private business.
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So Court what would you have done in 2008 when the banks went upside down and GM and Chrysler were right behind them?
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll tell you what I would have done. I would have let the banks fall on their own sword and the regionals and local banks prosper.

I would have stopped the insane mortgage lending where if you were on welfare or unemployment...hey...that qualifies as income and yippee, you're approved for a mortgage. Back when it started it was called the CRA...Community Reinvestment Act. First proposed back in 1977 under the Carter Administration!

Regarding GM and Chrysler, let them file for bankruptcy, reorganize, and let the bondholders, you know the ones that got the shaft when gov't stepped in to "help". First in line under the bailouts were the unions. That is pure out and out BS. They had no skin in the game.

You guys ought to try running a business with all the bull**** that costs a lot of money to comply with. When we wanted to hire our first employee, we needed unemployment insurance, workman's comp insurance, meet the OSHA standards for that job...and on and on. State of Wisconsin DOR (department of revenue) is constantly revamping their "guidelines", then they make sure of compliance to the new laws.

It just never ends. This is why we parked our little bit of profit and shut our little business down, for now.

Moochers and looters currently occupy the White House and a lot of Congress. This mess did not just start under this administration! We got this way because most of us did not feel the water warming up over the years and now the kettle is boiling. Most of us saw the socialist/communist party as musings, not taken as a real threat to our nation and the liberties we enjoy! We were wrong to brush off this threat. We won't be fooled any more!

Most of us on this board are older and have a lot at stake financially and want to keep what we've worked hard to earn! We want to raise our children as we see fit, develop them into solid citizens that will benefit our future.

Today, we allow people by the scores to illegally cross our borders without due process of law. Today, just today, we have a President who is allowing ONE MILLION of them to stay here. The US Treasury will see a $465 million dollar boost (the fee required to "process them"). Meanwhile, the taxpayers of each locale will be saddled with the real cost to house, educate, feed, and medicate them. If you go to the southern border of Mexico and try that your ass is thrown in the Mexican jail. We even gave Mexico $200+ million dollars several years ago to SECURE THEIR BORDERS!

Bottom line...Paul Ryan knows what needs to be done to get us pointed out of this looming fiscal mess. Both sides of the aisle appreciate his attention to detail and his tenacity to see his plan through. Unlike our current VP, Ryan can make the case why we need to start pulling in the purse strings. The course we are currently on is insanity...for all of us. But only those of us currently paying for this out of control spending will be be paying to correct it too.

Biden was right...we'll all be in chains if we don't stop this out of control gov't we have now.

We the people need constitutional gov't to be restored to the USA. At all levels of gov't!
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd have supported something more inline with a managed bankruptcy.

I first became concerned when the folks assigned by Obama to handle the "bail out" were found to be patently unqualified. This was the 25 year old who was working his first job since leaving grad school.

I was further concerned when Federal Statutes had to be broken and the shareholders did not receive, as is the law, and equitable distribution. As with Solyndra there was a disproportionate share of the pay out that accrued to Obama "bundlers" (najor fund raisers) and unions. In fact, the folks who had bought stock were paid pennies on the dollar while "insiders" were paid face value.

The government, as has been demonstrated time and time again, is a poor business partner. Solyndra was one but there have been dozens of the "selected" businesses nose drive. In fact, getting government bail out money was almost an assured kiss of death. We'll ignore for a moment the $217,000,000 that the "new Sheriff in town", VP Biden, assured us he'd keep track of every cent . . . that got lost and is unaccounted for. Shame that a plan based on "shovel ready jobs" found out too late that the jobs "weren't as shovel ready as we thought". They don't go on to explain how the money got spent anyway . . quite obviously, as we continue on the longest period of problem unemployment in our history, not to jobs.

GM, under the direction of it's new business partner, was directed to pursue the Van Jone's (he was the "Czar" at the time) "Green Agenda" and we got trash like the now discontinued VOLT and Camaros that GMis still trying to get paint to match on.

Somewhere along the way . . some idiot in The White House (there is a record number at present) told us, hell they even ran an ad, that "I'm proud to announce that GM has paid all the money back".

Huh?

Wait . . . they paid it back with a govenment loan. They paid their VISA card with their Mastercard.

Today . . . we own 500,000,000 shares of stock. In order for "us" (it's my tax money that I intended to support the military, build roads and defend the nation) to break even we'll need that stock price in the mid 50's.

How's GM (currently in turmoil as a record number of top execs, including the marketing team were canned in the last month) doing with the government as their partner?



You want these folks managing your IRA?

They stuck their finger where it didn't belong and they screwed up.

What if these folks, gosh like they promised, would focus on creating a business climate that creates job?

Frankly, they are not bright enough. They show all signs of being corrupt and not terribly bright.

Their record . . .to steal a phrase . . speaks for itself.

I'll survive the grand Obama social experiment . . . but my grandkids can't handle 4 more years.

Obama is the single greatest source of national embarrassment in my lifetime.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/ 2012/08/15/auto-bailout-price-tag-rises-to-25-bill ion-how-high-will-it-go/


http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120813/AUTO01 /208130392


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hows-bailout-w orking-gm-and-you_649947.html
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Two_seasons and Court, excellent posts both.

A cynical person - such as myself - might wonder if the damage Obama has done to America in the past three and a half years is deliberate, and not simply the result of egotistical, arrogant incompetence...

I've picked on Joe Biden in this thread, comparing his style (or lack thereof) to that of Paul Ryan.

I'm not sure how I missed the news when it was actually news, but I discovered in my internet travels yesterday that Artur Davis, a former Democrat and staunch Obama ally (Mr. Davis formally seconded Obama's nomination as president at the '08 DNC), has "defected" to the Republican party, in effect denouncing Obama and his failed presidency in a very major, visible way.

Here's a bio on Mr. Davis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Davis

I find it interesting, and telling, to have a man of such experience and stature as Mr. Davis suddenly "abandon the political ship," so to speak. Court and Two_seasons, I surmise that he is as embarrassed with our current president as both of you gentlemen are.

Back to Joe Biden. Earlier this week he told the good folks of Danville, Virginia, nearly 50% of whom are African American, that the Republican Party, by way of Romney & Ryan, is "going to put y'all back in chains!"



His comments, um, didn't go over very well, and that's being kind.

The Romney camp demanded a formal apology from the Obama campaign for uttering such a hateful, racist comment. The Obama campaign stood by their man, however, and said the comments stands.

Here's what Mr. Davis had to say yesterday about Biden's remark (and the Democrat party in general):



quote:

"...it ought to embarrass President Obama."



Mr. Davis, I couldn't agree more. I'll tell you this: As a hard-working, freedom-loving American citizen, President Obama embarrasses me. Question: Is he trying to to divide Americans on purpose???

I'll close this post with, IMO, the most uplifting item from yesterday's national news cycle. This happened yesterday afternoon in Radford, Virginia, just a few miles up the road from here:

quote:

Radford Business Owner Declines Request From Joe Biden's Entourage To Stop In Store
The owner of Crumb and Get It says he doesn't agree with the Obama administration's policies

"This is an opportunity of a lifetime but essentially I said 'No offense to you or the campaign but I just decline you guys coming in here. At that time she said 'Are you sure? There's going to be a lot of press, a lot of activity,’" McMurray said.

Why in the world would a new business owner say "no" to a photo op with the Vice President of the United States?

McMurray said it was President Obama's recent remarks about small business and who built what.

"Very simply, ‘you didn't build that’” McMurray said. “Speaking of small businesses and entrepreneurs all across this country and actually last night my wife was up all night. No sleep, she's worked a full 24 hours."

Read the entire article and watch the video here: http://www.wdbj7.com/news/wdbj7-radford-business-o wner-declines-joe-bidens-request-to-stop-in-store- 20120815,0,4370357.story



Bravo, Mr. and Mrs. McMurray. Kudos for standing up for yourselves and your fellow Americans. It is folks like yourselves, and not the government, who made this country great. With luck, come November, we begin the process of returning our country to its rightful owners.

I'll be riding to Radford this weekend. I'm going to personally thank the McMurrays, with a handshake and my wallet, for their courageous display of patriotism.

America, it's time for some R&R.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As a southerner, I'm mainly offended that Biden used the term "y'all".

Yea, Joe's just a good ole' boy.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

The Ryan Down Payment
By Artur Davis ~ Monday, August 13, 2012

I will offer the obligatory caveat: I know Paul Ryan from serving with him on two congressional committees during the eight years I spent in the House. It is not fair to call him a friend, at least not in the way human beings who aren’t politicians use that term, but I liked him a great deal. I liked the little things–when he engaged you in conversation, you had his attention and his eyes didn’t drift in search of a more powerful member, or a potential donor–and I admired the more consequential things, like his genuine smarts and the fact that when he spoke on the floor or in hearings, you heard the product of an active mind that didn’t need ghostwriting or lobbyist drafted talking points.

Frankly, I don’t know the politics of the pick. The Obama campaign is way too thrilled at this announcement to attribute it just to gamesmanship or wishfulness: they know that the Ryan budget plan has not polled well, that its realignment of Medicare unsettles seniors, and that to some independents (and at one point, Newt Gingrich) it looks more like ideological engineering than a response to our current bout of economic stagnation. A campaign whose allies just wrapped a woman’s death around Mitt Romney and Bain Capital, facts be damned, will not shrink from painting Ryan as a cold-blooded, Ayn Rand inspired radical who puts theory over people. (If you have never heard of the libertarian writer and polemicist for whom Ryan has expressed admiration, Democratic opposition researchers will endeavor to change that.)

My guess (and hope) is the Democratic attack will be so undisciplined that it is excessive and that Ryan, an imminently decent and pleasant man, looks to Americans nothing like the caricature that Democrats are about to paint. The campaigner who has won easily in a district Barack Obama carried has the raw ability to make a case that his budget really is a blueprint for a shared prosperity. He has flourished making that argument in settings more rigorous than the ritual anchor sit-downs that are coming, and he will not be intimidated by the skeptical, arched eyebrows of his interrogators, or by Joe Biden’s put-downs.

I also think Ryan can and will point out that an entitlement structure built for a population that rarely lived past seventy has to be refitted for a future where octogenarians are the fastest rising age demographic; that universal, one size fits all Medicare coverage has always been more a political bribe to sustain support than some solemn moral commitment; that government over-promising its capacities is itself immoral; and that the first casualties of an entitlement train-wreck would be the poor and the vulnerable, who most need the current compact to be amended so its best parts can survive.

My other hopes are that Paul Ryan’s reformer instincts aren’t just built around budgets. Conservatism needs to adopt education reform as a cause, not just as a wedge against the selfishness of teachers unions, but as the most effective instrument to reduce inequality. Conservatism needs not just to repeal Obamacare but to replace it with a market based correction to the inadequacies of the status quo. The political right has to reclaim legal immigration as a point of pride and to distance itself from overheated claims about “us” losing “our” culture: that means much less talk about “self-deportation” crusades against illegal immigrants, much more confidence in assimilation, much more focus on an immigration regime that privileges individual responsibility and families.

The guy I admired from across the aisle and sometimes chatted with gets all of the above, and may provide the center-right its most artful and effective political advocate. I think that Ryan knows that his party’s survival rests on conservatism growing and adapting to a changed economic world in a way that liberalism never has.

So, without minimizing the risk in claiming a space that Democrats have effectively attacked for years, I felt inspired seeing Paul Ryan rise from obscurity to the epicenter of politics in 24 hours. It’s an ascension that is well-earned: not one of his generational peers has used time as a lawmaker more seriously or more assertively. (The contrast with Obama–whose 12 uneventful years in the state and national Senate were spent running for, or exploring runs for, higher office–is palpable). If this ends well, a campaign that has been accused of running a prevent defense without being ahead has just made a serious down-payment on its party’s future.

Source: http://www.officialarturdavis.com/2012/08/the-ryan -downpayment/



High praise for Paul Ryan, from a man who was once one of President Obama's biggest allies.

Thank you Mr. Davis, for your service to our country, and for sharing your wisdom with us.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

does anyone know a undecided voter? Of all the people I talk to everyday.... I can't think of one.

I really want to know.... does anyone know someone on the fence?
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