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Ustorque
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

About 3 days ago I began the demo of my kitchen that I am completely renovating. Today was the day to pull up all the built up layers of flooring. 7 layers total, quite a mess and the final layer was a horrible sheet of some type, but under it was something cool. For one reason or another they covered the wood floor up with newspapers before they layed the original sheet flooring down in "1943" according to the papers. I was able to bet about 12 full pages up in pretty good condition, but i snapped a bunch of pictures as I was going just in case I wasn't able to get the up in tact. Here's a few:















I have a lot of others, but im still resizing.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW call a museum or something!!
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Bartimus
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

awesome find!
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

very neat! that is really cool, glad you were smart enought to not just rip those thigns up
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's very similar to what I found when I pulled up an old bathroom linoleum floor in a cabin, except mine was 1955.

I need to see if I still have those....

Cool stuff!
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Rotzaruck
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am always amazed to find pieces of old papers (and books, and bottles, etc.)in crawl spaces, walls and attics. I have never found nearly that much, that old and never in that good of shape.
Some people would have just scraped them up and thrown them out without a second thought. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one impressed by things like that.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought a little house in the Western tier of New York state back in the early 80's. It was originally a garage/barn for a horse and buggy built around 1900 that was enlarged at one point into a two car garage, I think in the late 1940's.

In the early 1960's there was a family split an an uncle came to live with the land owners. So they enclosed the garage and added on side rooms.

Anyway, I bought the again subdivided place and started to fix it up. There was no insulation and it was a true patch on a patch building. So starting with the only near insulated room I tore out the walls floor and ceiling. I found news papers in floor just like the ones' pictured above, if I did not know better I would think you had pictures of the ones that I pulled up.

Further into the walls someone rolled up news papers and tied them into single rolls, they stacked them between the hand cut studs in the walls(literally squared up sapling sticks). These news papers were in near perfect condition. They were from the 1890's. After showing them to my family I took them to the still operating local news paper company to offer them to their archives. They did not need them, they still had un-circulated not even folded originals in a secure storage room.

Next I offered them to a local library who said they had all of that information on micro-fiche. So I ended up giving them to a local high school for their history program.

Pretty neat stuff to read. Not a lot of value.
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Ltbuell
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's way cool for sure.The ones that make it,remember to not touch them with your bare hands.The oils from your hands will accelerate the deterioration of the paper.If you can get some thin cotton gloves.I have several stacks of Life magazines from the 40's and they look like they did back then(picked them up at a yard sale when i was living at Lake Tahoe 5+ years ago).I use cotton gloves to keep the oil,from my hands, from touching the paper.It will start to lightly tan/brown the areas of the paper.Still amazes me to "look through them" and see what was back then in the "pages of history".
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a house built in 1899, so I've been finding similar things while renovating.

When we pulled up the throw rugs in the 2nd story bedrooms, those even had newspapers from 1950s under them.

When gutting the front room, we found trolly tickets from 1928.

Cool stuff.
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Ustorque
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I figure their time here is short lived now that they have been removed and exposed to all the elements above the floor. No plans for them other then to let the kids have a look at them when they get in today. The funniest part of the papers would have to be the bluntness of the headlines and articles, there was no political correctness and it shows.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Practically every wall in my house has a sealed bag of goodies in between the studs.....coins,magazines,newsprints,catalogs,old toys,bullets,old household bills,obscure and everyday common stuff. If the shack doesn't burn down.....somebody will score a treasure trove.... if it is ever dismantled.....
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chilling:
From commentary on the McNutt labor / capital /industry edict.

Without mentioning the profiteers, this financial writer does expose one of the main aims of Roosevelt’s economic program. The entire complex mechanism of taxation – enforced savings, war-loans, price-controls, rationing, checks on installment-buying, wage-and-job freezing, etc. – which his administration has devised or, more precisely, improvised, is directed toward “reducing the standard of living of the civilian population” in order to maintain profits and make the masses pay for the war.

The thrust of this was pushed into state seizure of assets, men, material and the establishment of the Selective Service Administration - that later brought us the Draft.

History - lest we forget how we got last time.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all this political talk makes me tired......

what DID energize me, however, was the UK's proposed Beano embargo, near the bottom of one of your fotos

what was THAT about?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Beano..... a form of gaming and chance similar to bingo - not an additive or supplement to ward off the gassy affects of eating beans

Apparently it was a referendum to shut down gambling and gaming in Boston

how it is different from Bingo - I have no idea.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saw that about beano, had the same thoughts.

They once had a booth at a Nashville street festival- my buddy and I both were jonesing for a Beano T-shirt!
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Ustorque
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll see if I can get a good pic of the "beano" story for ya.

Squids I still owe ya a sticker, I haven't forgot ya..... Sorry it's taken so long as u can see I'm in some sh*t!
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Newspaper was used in floors to make them "float". Our house is 108 years old and we've found some fin stuff. The also seemed to get stuff behind the walls.

That is REALLY cool stuff !
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

UST- buddy, don't sweat it, just get that project done.

I suck, still gotta finish the flooring project in the LR, then get busy with the kitchen...
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When we renovated our last house I found all sorts of old tools, & behind a bricked up fireplace, the entrance to a bread oven that had long since disappeared.

Like Ziptab, I left a few bits & bobs of my own here & there in the rebuild.
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M2statz
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2012 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We found a bunch of Playboys in a crawl space when started on the twins room. Also when took some paneling down we found a complete side of a box car, Milwaukee RR. that was cool.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2012 - 02:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The local paper here is republishing its front pages from 70 years ago daily.

http://media01.couriermail.com.au/multimedia/Pacif ic-War/optimised/jul02.jpg

(Message edited by danger_dave on July 02, 2012)
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