wow...these drones are nothing but eyes in the sky....i think most of you want nothing bad to happen with all the protesters coming here to the beautiful downtown chicago area...this is nothing but a tool to use to keep an eye to what is happening...nobody is concerned about your kids soccer game...
Scouts and snipers on the roof at WTO, armed and on patrol drones over chitown ....
nope, not surprised at all. and yes, if you are going operational with 30000 drones over continental US - hello full time watch stander for info flow. exactly as I suspected not a damn tornado in sight is there ? hurricane, earthquake ... etc.
and the kicker... how long before we outsource the construction and contract bids for the drones to China ?.... ? sure sure - maybe months.
i have no problem with any US Govt agency flying drones in the US for a multitude of reasons, but mainly because I have nothing to hide! Those who do probably deserve to get caught!
Also be advised, the US military goes ALL OVER the WORLD for training (to include every state in the US).
Ladies and gentlemen, while our system isn't perfect (a perfect government is impossible!), sleep well at night knowing you're in the greatest nation of the face of this earth, and due largely to those "government agencies" that are a source of complaints for those dumb @$$ hippies, liberals, and terrorists!
not a hippy, a liberal or a terrorist. I know exactly what these things do, and what their capabilities are. And if you are comfortable with their actions to the tune of 30000 of them over the skies , enjoy.
nothing to see here, move along. but that is Chinese ! .... and how long do you think it is before we outsource the build ?.... really.
You guys are about 10 years late being worried on this one. All the shit hanging off a drone today was hung off a manned aircrafts hard points for many an R/D session spanning weeks, months, seasons, years.... HAPPY READING...... http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/usaf/afi14-104.pdf
A friend worked for Evergreen when they did their helo-rescue of Jose Napoleon Duarte's daughter held hostage.
They also did tests on different airliners converted to deploy troops out the rear air-stair door at low altitude (727 back in the day) - testing done at their AZ facility.
Evergreen has quite the history following Air American folding their tents and breaking camp.
And heres your kicker "3.5. This instruction does not apply to criminal investigations conducted by the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI). See Air Force Instruction (AFI) 71-101 Volume 1, Criminal Investigations."
WA-NG did indeed do some very fun things when tasked and sourced by Washington State Patrol for Drug interdiction and FCC Piracy enforcement (we had the equipment to detect, find, isolate, and prosecute it )
It's been discussed. The current Admin. has claimed the power to arrest, detain, kill, and hide the body, dead or alive, anyone they think might be a terrorist.
Since the definition of terrorist per Big Sis, the head of the Homeland Security Agency, ( feel free to curse Bush the younger for that one ) is NOT islamist fascists, but US service vets, folk who believe we should follow the Constitution, and those who disagree with the admin..... the Presence of armed drones over American cities was inevitable.
Just for our protection, of course. Apparently the protesters in Chicago are not the approved "Occupy" neocommunist, useful idiots run & paid by the Obama Eternal Campaign.
I'm not adverse at all to a few tear gas grenades when the mob of masked anarchists start smashing store windows. Hellfire strikes downtown might be a little over the top. Well in keeping with this admin's actions in Pakistan though. I suppose what's good for the goose...............
Conspiracy theories..... I still struggle that there were even 'planes' involved. Some of the video from that day, is the worse animation I have seen. ie On a stellar clear day, visibility for MILES .... the plane - is at best a black silohette, moving at rate that cannot even be near operating speed..... go look at the footage. Honestly, I am not inclined to believe that a Boeing 757 did it. ... nor am I content to believe that a low and slow aircraft of same size straifed the Pentagon.... and miraculously did no other damage to surrounding air incursions on such a glide path.
They smell like drones, with transponders at best. And it is not unprecedented. The Activity of the USS California in the Gulf back in the 90's..... shot down a 'civilian' aircraft.... that was 'registering' as a hostile enemy aircraft (per reports to the media an Iranian Fighter.... which would have been one of the ones we sold to them .... an f-4 to be exact) how hard is it to spoof a transponder code ?...... not.
and when you have 30,000 of these things in the air - how hard is it to get one of the 'red flag' ones in to our airspace.... especially since Iran just 'downed' one of our 'stealth' ROV's ?..... not.
expect stupidity from the air - and soon. (not even going to touch the 'loss' of one of the drones over DC by the Navy two years ago- thats already been laid to bare in this thread)
There is nothing so powerful as the truth and often nothing so strange. ~Daniel Webster
Truth will ultimately prevail when there are pains taken to bring it to light. ~Geo. Washington
If the citizenry cannot be made to do the wrong thing, then those nasty folk running the conspiracies all day, every day, will get them to do the right thing the wrong way.
Denial has always been a convenient "out" for many. Like the pretty woman who replied to the ugly man's request for a date, "Are you doing anything Saturday night?" with, "I've got to be doing SOMEthing."
"Certainly, the world as we know it cannot be coming to an end, not when we have so many things to do, things to buy, places to go hang out with our like-minded friends."
If one believes that something good is going to come from a chronic denial philosophy in regards to people with power effecting the halcyon days one currently enjoys, then don't panic when the killing starts. Wait, it already has.
IFF and transponders are a bit of tattle tale elint hooliganism waiting to happen. foiling them is exactly how a teen age kid in a Piper cub landed in Red Square in the height of the cold war.
Conspiracy theories..... I still struggle that there were even 'planes' involved. Every time I pour kerosene, I mean jet fuel, on my barbecue, I fear the intense heat will melt it and it will collapse at free fall speed before I can save the steaks.
“The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine.” - Abraham Lincoln
I'm not worried. if things get too bad here, i'll just break into area 51, kidnap ebe, steal an alien craft, and fly to the government's secret bases on the moon or mars.
cityx, better quality weed might help reduce that paranoia. chuck norris does not approve of your lack of patriotism.
YGTBFKM. Despite the eyewitnesses, video, testimony, etc - can you imagine orchestrating such a conspiracy to include the disappearance (incineration) of all the passengers and crew of the aircraft involved or the post-mortem identification of some of the body parts of those passengers ? Or the families on the ground who received phone calls or texts from passengers? Troll or paranoid, it's hard to say.............
Geedee, I use a Weber Chimney starter. No oily taste, and, alas, no giant fireball. Buy the Weber. The handles make the difference.
Torquehd, you might want to stop off at the secret Antarctic Nazi base to pick up some Frauleins.
I don't know how to tell you guys, but Kennedy was shot by a lone shooter from the Texas School Book Depository... Not Lee Harvey..... but someone who looked Just Like Him!!!! Undoubtedly an alien.
i think it was a troll, working a joint operation with the aliens, hired by the DOD. the troll fired the gun while UFO's dumped strong amounts of reefer on everyone, brainwashing them into believing it was Lee Harvey Oswald.
It was originally called "Operation Grassy Troll". but someone wearing half a tinfoil hat accidentally wrote down "grassy knoll".
"Troll or paranoid, it's hard to say............."
"cityx, better quality weed might help reduce that paranoia. chuck norris does not approve of your lack of patriotism."
I've just spoken to Chuck Norris who has apologised to me for his misjudgement of City, and now agrees with me that City is more than likely an American patriot.
Chuck also told me that he is very concerned at the epidemic of Cognitive Dissonance sweeping the world and that it can easily be cured, provided the sufferer recognises the symptoms and has the desire to get well.
Air plane full of dead passengers and crew. By all accounts, the entire event was 'fabricated' and unsupported. We were gunning for a hot conflict in the Region... which we got a year and half later.
KAL -007 - full aircraft of passengers and crew in a 'intell operation' over territorial airspace of Soviet Controlled Sakhalin Island.... (supposedly showing signature and indications of an RC 135 - which was known to overfly the region )
Nope - plane fulls of people have never just disappeared,
for some comedy, there is of course Wag the Dog.
please also ignore the farcus with the Turner Joy in the Gulf of Tonkin that got us into Vietnam... or the Japanese Attack on Pearl Harbor
America is entirely too reactionary with its need for revenge - damn right predictable
took it when I was 16, maxed it. the future was bright and set for pilot... until the physical - and I found I am blind as a damn bat, color and marginal depth
got the next best thing, intell 'weinie' to the attack stick and fighter jocks, then language school, then interrogator school
If I were not too old for it - I would go back in. If we go to war with Syria - I might have to ( the Russians are not going to let us walk in there)