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Blake
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had no idea these bigots were as violently racist and communist as the following excerpts from their recent teleconference recording shows. Truly shocking.

In the organizing phone call for their Trayvon Martin April 9th National Day of action protest, the New Black Panther Party promotes violence (blood), racism, and hatred.



I dare everyone to listen to the entire recording.

The transcript (boldface indicates vocal emphasis by speaker):

Transcript of Excerpts from New Black Panther Party (NBPP) teleconference call on April 7th, 2012 with speakers Michelle Williams, the NBPP Tampa chapter Chief of Staff and Chawn Kweli, the National Spokesman of the NBPP.

Michelle Williams: Black power brother Shawn. This is sister Michelle, Chief of Staff for Tampa Bay/Petersburg chapter of the New Black Panther Party.


Chawn Kweli: Black power comrade.


Michelle Williams: Black power. I just want to say to all the listeners on this phone call, if you are having any doubts about getting suited, booted, and armed up for this race war that we in, that has never ended, let me tell you something. The thing that's about to happen to these honkies, these crackers, these pigs, these pig people, these m___er f____king [?turtle?] people, it has been long overdue. ...


Chawn Kweli: Yeah, what she said was right. We got to suit-up and boot-up. We got to suit-up and boot-up, and get prepared for da war dat we're in ... for this stuff got to boil over, and all your greats talked about there havin' to be bloodshed involved in revolution. True revolution means some bloodshed, so there's blood bein' spilled, because there's a new life that is beyond this bloodshed. There's a new reality that is built upon your original African principles and spiritualities and values and norms, and it's beyond this bloodshed. But we gotta go do it. And as the scriptures say, you got a crossing... we're gonna have to cross the red sea. You gonna have to cross the red sea. I know y'all thought it was talkin' about some sea in some middle-eastern part of the world. Hell no. We're talkin' about some blood. You're gonna have to cross some blood, and go through some blood, and some battles. And there are those who with they could stand in this hour to see the destruction of the devil's world and the devil's society, and I ain't talkin' about no dude underneath the ground with a pitchfork and panty hose. I'm talkin' about that blonde-haired, blue eyed, sometime brown-eyed Caucasian walkin' around with a mindset, a demonistic mind-set and a nature to do evil and brutality. ...


Michelle Williams: I say to everyone that is on this call right now, I'm comin' outa the gates, like that greyhound on that rabbit's ass, and his prize, my prize right now this evening is gonna be the bounty, the arrest dead or alive for George Zimmerman. You feel me? To every brother, to every female, I am for violence, if nonviolence means we continue postponing a solution to the American black man's problem just to avoid violence. You feel me? It's time to wake up, I don't know how else... it's in me to fight, it's in me to raise up soldiers, it's in me that every time my feet touch the ground the [unintelligible] cracker [unintelligible]. I'm telling you right now, I'm kind of pissed off right now that the state of Florida ain't on fire. This could not have happened in LA, because some brothers up there are not scared to riot. This could not have happened in Saint Petersburg Florida where the black man over there ain't scared to kill a cracker. ...


Chawn Kweli: This is real. If we're attacked anywhere in the world, we will defend ourselves by any means necessary. We have proposing... we are pushing forward with a national strike and walkout on this cracker and on this [?peace?] and all these bastards. We are proposing and pushing to all our people that you hit 'em in the pocket where it hurts. You starve capitalism. Since this racism that's bein' perpetuated, and this brutality that's bein' perpetuated, and this murder that's bein' perpetuated is built on the table legs of capitalism. You got to starve capitalism. ...

What you saying is real, an act of war has been declared on us. We, we don't have no choice but to fight. But I want to say, that we have to be train how to fight. See the whole purpose of the maneuvers that's happenin' in Sanford is to train in self-defense, because many of us think we're prepared for a battle, just like many of us think we're prepared for a fight. But if you are not training, if you are not stockin' up water, if you're not stockin' up food, if your not stockin' up weapons and artillery and survival books and gas masks and flash lights and canteens and uh ready-to-eat meals and all that, if you're not stocking that up, I don't know how serious we are right now. ...

Absolutely we want the complete removal of capitalism. Why? Because capitalism sets up a class structure, and a class society as I said in the beginning of the have's and have-nots, that it's the pivotal point is racism. It is racism that keeps and perpetuates a capitalistic motion. And so yes, we want capitalism completely eradicated, especially from the minds and hearts and dealings of black people.
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Cowboy
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My pacience has warn very thin with the Negro, I am sick and tired of hearing them cry and mone as I have stated here before There is no race of people on earth that have suffered like my ansisters (the Jews) I am sick of them they can eatherpick them selfs up or lay in the ditch , America has spent more Money than any nation trying to help them and they just wasre the op[tunity.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"There's a new reality that is built upon your original African principles and spiritualities and values and norms"

ten bucks says neither of these people have even set foot on African soil.

Im sorry, but dont bring up stuff like that. I dont bring up Germany or Irish heritage and norms etc Why? Cause its not very relevant. In the past five generations (at least) of my family we've all been born here, raised here.
Same for these people above. Get over that.

Now to the topic at hand:
Ridiculous.
Racial tensions, unfortunately, will never go away. Its a shame. And its from all sides.
Its a shame people get hung up on skin color.

Its funny to me how people pick and choose which part of a person they want to like.
This might sound bad, but I dont care:
Zimmerman is half white, right? And hes being called a white man (well they rarely use 'white', using slurs instead).

Barack Obama is half white, but they arent focusing on that with him. To them he is a black man.
They preach inequality, yet they cant even get their own stuff straight.

Its disgusting.
ANd if I hear a white person saying similar I'll have a similar response to them as well. I dont care which race someone is, if youre racist you are trash. You deserve nothing.
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Strato9r
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

F#cking sickening. Eliminate capitalism and parasites like these will be the first ones sent to the ovens.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let me explain to you the position of the Black man ins socialism
....
Its not pretty.
You will be shot, forced to move out, not allowed property ownership, not allowed to work if a natural born white can hold the job, you will not be allowed to open a business, and there are entire regions of the country that you will not be allowed to move into, or travel through.
add to that, be muslim

and you will not survive the year.
Welcome to Socialism, Bosnia, Albania, Yugoslavia, Moldova, Ukraine, and historic regions of Russia.
....
and if you are Nigerian/Somalian ? forget about it. Celebrate your last breath Comrade - socialism doesnt give a F%ck
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Thumper74
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting. I think we should round these guys up, along with white power extremists and give them a large chunk of land. Let them work out their differences together.

Why are these people allowed to live?

For the record, I don't care that he supports Socialism/Communism as he obviously hasn't seen the pitfalls. Advocating a race war is completely different.

(Message edited by Thumper74 on April 09, 2012)
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey do they plan on "starving" capitalism? Are they gonna stop spending their food stamps or what?

~SM
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Pammy
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This sad event didn't start due to a focus on race. It's being spun up to be about that.
If Zimmerman is getting any preferential treatment...and I am not saying he is, my vote for it being directly related to the fact that his Dad is a retired Magistrate. Nothing more sinister than that.
I live in St. Petersburg and have been involved in prior race riots. The mindset of some of these folks, in my opinion, hasn't much to do with equality or lack thereof...It seems more animalistic and childish...dogpiling. I doubt reasoning is possible as they choose not to be reasoned with.
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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This whole pile of crap stirs up emotions from my heritage that I thought I had squashed into oblivion years and years ago and replaced with a more open mind.

THAT in itself enrages me.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had no idea these bigots were as violently racist and communist

Really???? I was surprised by your revelation until I did a quick check for Kilgore, Texas. Small town, majority white... explains a lot.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The problem with some African Americans is not their skin color but their culture. I don't know when it went wrong but somewhere along the line they have embraced all the wrong values. I recall so-called black music in the 70's being so much more positive than the rap music of today. Surely, blacks overall have it better today then they have ever had it in this country. I don't get it. As a group they could contribute so much more.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

.....give them a large chunk of land. Let them work out their differences together.

That's an idea. How about Syria? Or better yet, Somalia.

Cowboy, I can't tell if you are being deliberately sarcastic, or haven't figured out how to use the spell check. ( I'm VERY grateful for the spell check. Thanks Blake )

There are a couple of reasons that "black culture" is so dysfunctional.

In no order. ( and, yeah, I'm from the pale blue northern people. My friends who have African ancestors agree with this, though )

A. The Church of Liberation Theology was originally intended to bring KGB sponsored revolution to South & Central America where the Catholic Church holds sway. Look it up. 1950's. Later, 1960's on, the Urban Black variant was introduced, and that sums up the reason for the neo-marxist rhetoric, the President's preacher ( that he never listened to. I actually almost buy that. ) and the Presidents faith. ( according to the President )
The Pope, former head of the Holy Inquisition, calls that faith "demonic". It may be one of the few areas we agree.

B. If you really hated the descendants of former slaves and wanted them under your thumb, what would you have done different than Congress has done since WW2?

We have multiple generations that have not worked. Not had fathers. Not had the opportunity to get a good paying job in their own neighborhoods. While some of that is due to automation, outsourcing, and the flight of factory work away from welfare state locations, a great deal of it is directly tied to government policy, both in welfare rules and the deliberate ghetto formation with gerrymandering.

C. The effect on youth of sly racist policies is crippling. If your whole life is spent hearing teachers spouting a party line of helplessness, that's a hard thing to shake. A lot that isn't outright pandering lies is fed to kids so baldly wrong, they see right through it.

Many of the "leaders" in their community are either Liberation Theologists ( meaning they will lie. All the time. ) or folk that the teachers and "leaders" call old fogey/out of touch... since they believe in hard work, Church, and family.

Hard work, Church and Family are all considered evil by the Leftist Statists, since theirs is a a jealous god and can tolerate no other. Dependence is the goal, and the means.

Again. 70+% illegitimacy rate. Child support laws lead away from legit work and into the black market. Generations of failed schools. If you WERE a racist, what would you do different?

Color is the tool, not the reason. It is the tool of the leftist racist liar.

True, there are some right wing nutjob racists. I don't like them either.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

City...South Africa comes to mind!

Jesuits...still trying to turn America into a communist nation!
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW!
This thread is going to have some legs, no doubt.
I would like to go on record early in the show as stating that I hate everybody equally. Of course this also means that I love everybody equally. In fact, if you get right down to it, equality is the main thing. What exactly is equality? The version dished out by the fed has actually caused much of the problem, in my opinion. Pay people to squirt out babies and not work for a living and you get what you get. Throw in free food and medical and bodda bing. Almost seems like the whole thing is engineered, don't it?
Every American has the chance to go as far as his or her ability can take them. True to a point. In the case of say, becoming President of the big ol USA, it's a damned lie. The only way you can even run for office currently is if you have a buttload of money. It does not matter if you are qualified or even if you are a citizen, apparently.
We the people (all the people) are being pasture fed for harvest like cattle and this racial crap just makes it impossible to deal with, which seems to be the plan. We (all the people) are falling for it hook line and sinker.
The fact remains that we (all the people) still have the power of numbers to stand up and correct it. If this is to happen, it will have to be done as one group, undivided.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think equating the black panthers to black Americans would be like equating Neo nazi's to whites. They get media coverage for the same reasons Paris Hilton did. The media whores are stealing the show and stirring up stuff and the media is all to happy to oblige.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trouble is brewing be sharp be aware be skilled with less than lethals Your about to baited abused etc inorder to help Obama seize in power and have a reason to change the social order of the country as well as the economic one.
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Boltrider
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Eldridge Cleaver comes to mind when I see something like this.

Eldridge Cleaver was an early leader of the original Panther movement who did a great many horrible things in the name of inciting racial warfare. After fleeing the country to avoid prosecution for a shootout with police, he got a firsthand look at communism while living in exile in Cuba, Algeria, and France. That was when he realized what a farce communism was. Too bad the former Panther leader is dead. His words might have carried enough credibility to quiet down this "new" movement, same as the old movement.

One of his better quotes was, "I'd rather be in jail in America than free anywhere else."

http://libertycavalier.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/el dridge-cleaver-an-american-story-of-redemption/



quote:

ELDRIDGE CLEAVER: AN AMERICAN STORY OF REDEMPTION
Posted by LibertyCavalier on July 31, 2010 ·


It is time for an account of a Marxist who experienced the horrors of Communism and finally saw the hope and opportunity that America provides to its citizens under the Constitution.
Meet Eldridge Cleaver (1935-1998), a former Marxist and Black Panther leader. Cleaver was born on August 31, 1935, in Wabbaseka, Arkansas, but grew up in Los Angeles where the teen-aged Cleaver got into trouble with the law, with arrests for theft and selling marijuana.
In 1957 Cleaver was sent to a California prison on conviction of attempted murder which is where he was trained in Marxist theology.
While is prison Cleaver wrote a series of essays that were later published in his book ”Soul on Ice” in 1968. This book was a powerful catalyst in the Black Power movement. In one essay, Cleaver described his rape of white women as “an insurrectionary act. It delighted me that I was defying and trampling upon the white man’s law … defiling his women.” “I wanted to send waves of consternation through the white race,” he said. In 1966, after his release from prison, Cleaver and other Marxists started the Black Panthers, a militant, leftist, black nationalist group based in Oakland, California. Eldridge Cleaver became the Minister of Information and espoused the agenda of the Black Panthers. This agenda was to annihilate the entire economic system and social structure and create an American Communist regime.


The Black Panthers advocated violence and in 1968 cities were burning all over the United States. However, the burning was always in black ghettos and black people saw that they were being used.
In a shootout between police and the Black Panthers Eldridge Cleaver was wounded, and faced with criminal charges he then evaded bail and fled the United States for a life of exile in Algeria, Cuba and France. After 8 years in exile in these Communist and Socialist countries Eldridge Cleaver requested to return to the United States because he believed he would receive a fair trial under the American judicial system. He and his wife were no longer atheists nor Communists. They had seen what Communism actually creates, the chaotic political law, as well as the rampant corruption and poverty. Cleaver’s time in Communism had debunked his propaganda of “equality” and “justice” in such a society.
He would tell the Reader’s Digest: “I would rather be in jail in America than free anywhere else.”
His remorse continued, “I was wrong and the Black Panthers were wrong…. We are inside the system and I feel that the number one objective for Black America is to recognize that they have the same equal rights under the Constitution as Ford or Rockefeller, even if we have no blue-chip stocks. But our membership in the United States in the supreme blue-chip stock and the one we have to exercise.” (Laile Bartlett, “The Education of Eldridge Cleaver” Reader’s Digest, September 1976, pp. 65-72.)
After returning to America, Cleaver spent time on parole and his judge decided he must fulfill several hundred hours of public service at a California college. He then spoke to many students, churches, communities, and prisons about his love for America. He talked about the dismay he felt when he realized how Communism betrayed human dignity and rights. This challenged his previous worldview and he was forced to rethink the fallacies he had accepted as truth. Many students he talked with were struggling with the same philosophical problems, but he taught them that they must earnestly seek truth, and that would lead them to reality, which is when they would see the crucial role the Creator has in the foundations of this world.
Through the Eldridge Cleaver story we see what effect the experience of reality can have on a person. He had previously accepted the ideology of Marxism, but then saw that the pillars of wealth and societal equality were a complete fallacy. This pursuit of utopia only resulted in a centralization of power, minimization of individuals, and mass corruption.


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Thumper74
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you're underprivileged, Communism/Socialism seems REALLY attractive. Think about it... 'free' everything, the worker controls the means of production, etc. In it's a purest form, I see how it 'could' work, but it's flawed by things like greed and sloth.

Africa would be acceptable! Many of them want to go back anyway...
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That fallacy caught Lincoln too.

Despite the fake nostalgia for Africa, not 1 in 10 Americans would want to stay if you gave them a free ticket. Read "Heart of Darkness"

It's a good point that the Panthers and the Klan are not representative of people. ( though I could make a political comment on how the Klan & the Panthers probably vote for the same party..... the same one that set up the welfare state. )
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a rich guy, I doubt I ever will be - my best wealth is to be left alone, and often.

Communism is a bad idea. Anybody that advocates it - hasnt seen the dead bodies it produces, the forced genocide history is replete with, blind to the shared misery, dumb to the graft and power and privelege of the appartchik - dumb to the idea that 'equality' means everyone is the same under Communism.
Its a FAILED system. I know entirely too many people that survived it - that thought we were smart enough to avoid it.

The purges start soon, they always do.
If you stand on your toes you can see it coming.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The biggest problem in America right now, and this is on the left and the right, is a lack of education. This lack of education creates a vacuum that allows people to easily be swayed by Rhetoric targeted at perceived injustices.

By the way, it is this same type of rhetoric that is used on impressionable young kids that lures them into Gangs, White Power Groups, Terrorist Groups, etc. You tell them that their life sucks and who is to blame for their life sucking and that they have to act to get "justice".

Black Panther, Neo Nazi's, Al Qaeda ... they are all the same ... the only difference is the people they try to manipulate and the people they try to target.
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Thumper74
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wholeheartedly agree. It may not even be education though, as there are many educated people in Al Quieda, the Black Panthers, Neo Nazis, etc. It's ignorance. They just need someone, anyone, to blame their problems on, whether it's justified or not. So they choose someone not of their social group to attach their problems to and believe that if they eliminate or hold down that group, it will fix their problem. Nazis did it to Jews, whites to blacks, blacks to whites, etc.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The leaders are usually educated but they use their knowledge to twist and distort things to suit their agenda. The followers are the uneducated ones. If they were educated or knowledgeable (Uneducated and Ignorant are really interchangeable here, IMO) they wouldn't be so easily swayed by the garbage the leaders throw out there.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

or witches - surely they are the fault for bad crops, barren calves, miscarriages, bankruptcy, bitter tea, the color red... etc

it is as old as history - it was a witch hunt then, it is a rope a dope now.

All they need is a little crisis - and hello reason to use the new 'Health Force' ....
The first troops are graduating the first week of May. Perfect timing for a good summer of killing and revolution.
By July - I bet APC's roll
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Xbniner
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It makes me sad to see something this racist and ignorant- then see the very first reply responding with a very similar level of ignorance and hate.

Why can't we elevate the level of discourse above "us vs. them"? All of this talk that people's motives are evil because they have different ideas than us of what is best for this country has to stop.

I know this is a forum of smart people, because you all have been smart enough to ride a Buell at some point! Why can't we escape the trap of believing that either political party has our best interests at heart?
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

My pacience has warn very thin with the Negro, I am sick and tired of hearing them cry and mone as I have stated here before There is no race of people on earth that have suffered like my ansisters (the Jews) I am sick of them they can eatherpick them selfs up or lay in the ditch , America has spent more Money than any nation trying to help them and they just wasre the op[tunity.


Thanks, xbniner, you are correct.
Cowboy, it serves no good purpose to make sweeping generalizations about an entire people. It is rather sickening and is symptomatic of a lack of education. Please keep your arguments about specific people and specific actions. Racism and hatred doesn't cut it no matter which direction it hails from. You will help make a better world and BadWebWorld.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While I don't like what Cowboy stated, I do recognize that this is a symptom of having a leadership in this country that continually divides us into various segments. We are being told that people are evil based on race, economic status, gender, religious believes, and political leanings just to name some of the big ones. Bigotry gets you bigotry.

Unfortunately the African-American population has for generations, been used and abused in the politics of bigotry. Generally they have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker too. They will never reach their potential as long as the victim mentality persists and they have generation after generation feeding from the government teat too guarantee their vote to a single party. No other minority group has let themselves be so abused. I really wish better for them, but really have no solution for them that doesn't come from within.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No other minority group has let themselves be so abused.

I disagree. For a lot longer, too. Just read in the Jewish weekly paper that 62% of American Jews support Obama based on "fairness" and social program reasons. It reminds me of the 1930's when no one in Germany and Poland believed what was coming, despite pograms slaughtering folk in villages for centuries.

The Delta Quarter of Alexandria ( yeah, 5 quarters... Romans, what can you do? ) where the Jews lived was wiped out more than once. Sometimes the rhymes of history are tragic... I doubt even one lives there now, and the Coptics are following them into oblivion in Egypt as we speak.

It's not color. It is culture. The culture in the "darker" 'hoods has changed in my lifetime. Once church going, upwardly mobile, growing middle class areas are now multigenerational ghettos. The racial prejudice in America generally has gone down, far too slowly, over the last 40 years, but the situation, locally is worse today. I have my opinions as to why....

Warning Alfonzo Rachel is a conservative and Christian. If that offends you, feel free to not watch. ( cretin )

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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

loved that!
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All hail the Grand Cougar.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it is standard propaganda tactics - you have to separate, segregate, villify, and dehumanize the other sector .... once you get to the - they are trash - idiom, it is time for the death marches, the camps, the 'reeduation' and the piles of bodies.

And it is not all foreign history. My great grand mother was Choctaw - she refused to go the reservation, for what happened to her family during the Trail of Tears -
She gave me the history that I would never find in books.
Ethnic clensing is all too cyclical , all too eminent.
and these idiots are all about it.

APCs by July.

(ps - you will notice that if you are against climate change you are no labled as insane, racist, and backward.... and you thought it was all about just race)
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it's not about race. it never really has been. race is something the puppets can 'get into' while the puppet masters can make take and keep all the loot.

it is about money always has been always will be.
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