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     Fb1 |
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| Glitch |
Alabama Democratic Party That's wrong, I hate it when they do that, I wonder if it's on purpose. It should read, "Alabama Democrat Party" I know the difference, I wonder if anyone else does. WRT Maher, he should be scrubbed as well, his mouth with lye soap. What a disgrace he is. | ||
| Notpurples2 |
Bill Maher can be very annoying... he just has a face that screams "punch me" But calling one female politician names makes him sexist? Would a female comedian calling a male politician a "dick" make her sexist? It's like remarks that people who criticize Obama are racist. Just because you don't like one person from a group doesn't mean you hate the whole group. Maybe there's more to him being sexist than just his remarks about Palin but those are the only ones I've heard. | ||
| Slaughter |
I don't think the issue is whether Mahr is a misogynist or not - it's that he is given a free pass for calling a woman a TW*T and a CU*T whereas it seems the same crowd is calling for Limbaugh's crucifixion for using "Slut" and "Prostitute" (words only marginally less vulgar) | ||
| Sifo |
Would a female comedian calling a male politician a "dick" make her sexist? Odds are that it would make her right.  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I don't know. Ask Kramer. Evidently calling one person nigger makes you a racist. Hell, saying nice things about the wrong old guy at his birthday party makes you a racist if you are a Republican. Make up a word that someone could say is racist and if you are Republican, you are a racist. What is macaca anyway? NP, are you REALLY defending Maier's statements? Are you REALLY pulling the comedian card? Maher meant it EXACTLY as he said it. He IS sexist. The only difference is that he is only vocal about his sexism in the right audience and about women with specific political leanings. It's the safe double standard. He KNOWS that left leaning folks, particularly the media, will give him a pass. You just did. | ||
| Fb1 |
Notpurples2, please watch this short video clip compiled by ShePac, and then help me to understand why it's OK when Bill Maher says stuff like this: I'm not defending what Rush Limbaugh said. I never have liked his style, and don't listen to him. He, however, apologized. Sincerely. He knows he was wrong, offered an olive branch (several times) to Ms. Fluke, and she declined to accept. And the left-sided media and politicos have waged nothing short of all-out war on Limbaugh. Why? They're trying to use it to their political advantage, NOT because of moral issues with what he said. How can I make such a claim? The answer lies in the fact that it's apparently perfectly acceptable when Bill Maher says cruel, vile, vulgar stuff about women - he's a comedian. Plus, he just gave the Obama PAC a million frikkin' dollars. PLUS, he's now making the democrat party fund-raising rounds, generating even more revenue for Mr. Obama's campaign coffers. One can only imagine the stuff that will come out of his mouth at the gig down in Alabama. He won't stop at insulting women, either. The good people of the South (you know, the ones "clinging to their guns and religion") will incur his wrath, too. But hey, it's OK - he's a comedian. Don't you see the hypocrisy in all of this? Best, FB | ||
| Fb1 |
Geez, this is rich:
The left is pulling out all stops this election. They MUST get Mr. Obama reelected, all all costs. America, it's time to wake up from your slumber; your very survival is at stake. | ||
| Notpurples2 |
I'm not defending him, I just didn't think calling Palin names made him sexist. Most of what was in that video was off-color and meant to be provocative if not offensive. He's a provocative comedian. It did paint him as sexist thru callousness but there weren't any overt attacks on women in general. Honestly, I've never been a big fan of his and only have only recently been able to watch any of his shows. I've always found him irritating. I'm not surprised either when Rush says offensive things. He's a provocative radio host, just on the other end of the spectrum. | ||
| Fb1 |
The point is, the dems (and the mainstream media) are denouncing Limbaugh with all the fury at their disposal. He apologized, sincerely, to no avail. Maher not only gets a free pass, the dems are using his foul-mouthed notoriety as a fund-raising and positive-publicity tool for the Obama campaign. Don't you see the double standard? Doesn't any of this matter to you?? | ||
| Hootowl |
Apparently, liberalism blinds one to hypocrisy. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Only to LIBERAL hypocrisy. | ||
| Reindog |
There is more than hypocrisy at work here. The esteemed feminist, Gloria Allred, is trying to get Limbaugh prosecuted.
Yet the Left is left untouched when they do exactly the same thing. Read the full opinion piece by James Taronto in yesterday's WSJ. That 70's Show | ||
| Notpurples2 |
Honestly... not really. My original point was that I didn't think there was enough reason to paint Maher as sexist. You showed that there was more to it than what I've heard. He's definately offensive.... sexist?... ehh I think $1M from a comedian is trivial compared to the millions coming from other more influential backers.... on both sides. | ||
| Fb1 |
Your apathy astounds me, but thank you for taking the time to post your thoughts. Best, FB | ||
| Notpurples2 |
Also in my opinion Rush's comments were far more ignorant than sexist. He seemed to be making the assumption that the cost of hormonal birth control increases with amount of sex you have. And of course the fallacy that paying for a birth control equals paying for sex. Plus his suggestion that college girls film themselves having sex, while enticing, when delivered by him was extremely creepy. Rush needs to running his show on a 10min delay with a team of fact checkers keeping tabs on him. Not to long ago he defended the Lords Resistance Army because he thought they were a christian organization. The headline "Obama orders Christian organization killed in Africa" was just to tempting to fact check. | ||
| Sifo |
Notpurples, Just curious here... You seem to know a lot about what Rush says and thinks. Far more so than me, but I don't listen to him. Do you? | ||
| Reindog |
So why is it OK for Maher,Olberman, Shultz, et al to use foul language against a woman but it is not OK for Rush? It is NOT OK for any of them to use that kind of language. However, Rush did apologize and the others did not. For the record, I rarely listen to Rush nor the other three gentlemen. Something is a little stinky here. | ||
| Reepicheep |
And what kind of idiot thinks Rush is the "de-facto head of the republican party"? And what kind of idiot media would report that kind of statement without mocking (or at least correcting) it? I know the answers to these questions. But others who don't should think about them (it won't take long to work it out)... | ||
| Notpurples2 |
I randomly listen to Rush, Dan Savage, Schnit, just whoever is on the local conservative talk radio station when I tune in. But I'm not a regular listener. I've recently started catching Maher's show on HBO but usually only watch if there's someone interesting on. Maher is just too annoying. I'll also tune into O'Reilly if he's got someone interesting on. I also listen to podcasts from both sides of the political spectrum. They're both crazy but typically the left has a better sense of humor. | ||
| Fb1 |
They're both crazy but typically the left has a better sense of humor. Read: "Maher? It's OK, he's a comedian." Heavy sigh.  | ||
| Notpurples2 |
FB1, yes I do grant comedians more leeway to make fun of people. Most of my favorite comedians are very politically incorrect. And I like them that way. Imagine if George Carlin had worried about being too offensive. Maher might not be your cup of tea... he's not really my cup of tea either. But he is, or at least tries to be, a comedian... for now. But it looks like he is trying to blur the line between comedy and politics. | ||
| Fb1 |
But it looks like he is trying to blur the line between comedy and politics. Ya think? He just donated a million bucks to Obama, and is out stumping for more. The dems are eating him up like candy. The line is not very blurry from my perspective. It's OK, though - he's funny.  | ||
| Notpurples2 |
It's OK, though - he's funny. If you think so  Personally I think he's annoying. When I first heard about it I thought he was trying to shine a light on the whole super PAC thing. But Colbert and The Daily Show have already done that and did it well. Really I guess I shouldn't say the left have a better sense of humor... The best usually fall just left of center. The further left or right you go the worse it gets. | ||
| Hootowl |
"It's OK, though - he's funny" It's the Jon Stewart defense: "I'm a comedian". In reality, he's a left wing pundit who has his own show on a comedy channel. | ||
| Hootowl |
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| Glitch |
As much as I dislike these new political comedians (too many people take them too seriously), and political pundits, they have every right to say what they say. They are all offensive to me, and they tend to turn my stomach. BUT They have the right to talk the way they want. It's called Free Speech. It defends offensive people saying offensive things. Rarely has nice speech from nice people been in need of protection. | ||
| Fb1 |
I'm all for free speech. It's guaranteed by the Constitution, a document I hold to be sacrosanct. I hate the haughty hypocrisy of the left with a passion, though. If Mr. Obama had any spine, he'd very publicly pay Maher's money forward to a worthwhile charity (and I don't mean yet another family vacation). The Dems have a chance to stand up and prove they have some real class. I'm betting they don't, and I'm betting they won't. | ||
| Glitch |
I agree wholeheartedly Jerry. It's too bad they don't have to wear a label to show their contents, like food labels. Something like... Comedian Full of shit Consume at your own risk This product has been known to cause ignorance etc | ||
| Notpurples2 |
Thing is, Obama can't do anything with the money because technically it's not his it belongs to the PAC. He could publicly say that the PAC shouldn't use the money to promote his campaign but he can't directly tell them what to do with it. Legally, he can't coordinate with them. Right? |
