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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Rat Said in spaids!


GO EBR !!!!
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D_adams
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Court - "They make more motorcycles in a day than Harley-Davidson does in a year. "

Lets not get too crazy with our stats here.....




They build an _average_ 14500 bikes/mopeds per DAY. They SOLD 5.3 MILLION units last year? Sure, it was mopeds and motorcycles, but it's still all 2 wheeled vehicles.

HD SOLD 235,000 units for the YEAR I think. That makes for an average of 644 per DAY for HD to put out.

This of course assumes the employees work 365 days a year.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"They build an _average_ 14500 bikes/mopeds per DAY. They SOLD 5.3 MILLION units last year? Sure, it was mopeds and motorcycles, but it's still all 2 wheeled vehicles.

HD SOLD 235,000 units for the YEAR I think. That makes for an average of 644 per DAY for HD to put out.

This of course assumes the employees work 365 days a year."

thank you for backing me up : )

I said it in another thread, they are producing an incredible amount of vehicles, mind boggling actually - 14k a day! But that just backs up what you quoted me.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And Court - how about that "RS1200" story you teased, can you at least give hint to which bike it was?
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Ulyranger
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EBR = Skunk Works is an excellent analogy if this all works out right.....excellent for EBR and for the future products they will produce that is.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is precisely, on a much larger scale, what happened when a friend who needed work and income to fund his company did the entire design for a foreign company for a bike that would later become an icon.

Court- you've alluded to this before. Just to be clear, are you saying that a certain mechanical engineer originally from Pennsylvania designed a motorcycle for a non-American motorcycle company which is currently up for sale, and the name of that iconic motorcycle relates to various science fiction movies from the 1950's?

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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

damn that is a lot of wheels --just think how much more they could produce if they has a united auto workers union.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man, this story is really burning up the internet. I just googled "Hero Buell EBR motorcycles" and there have been 129 new stories in the last hour (8:28 AM EDT).
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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But, to me, this feels different because, again, its one motorcycle company sponsoring another.




Uh, you mean like Rotax, which is part of Bombadier, which owns Victory? ; )
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Danger_dave
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Polaris owns Victory.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Dave! All those Canadians look alike to me. ; )

I was wrong, I thought Victory was owned by Polaris, which was part of the BRP umbrella.

Looks like they aren't, BRP owns Cam Am.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does GM still own Saab? . . . .If I remember . . .they got rid of it about the time Volkswagen bought Porsche last year to get access to their Engineering and R&D capabilities . . . .Ford still owns Range Rover, right ?
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Court
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And . . just what the heck is that Stupid Erik Buell up to . . . you goggle the rascal and the only thing I learn is that this is a guy who, as half the world was worrying what could go wrong if . . was diving in making things happen.

We've got some budding college students here on Badweb . . just to give me a sense of perspective . . .how many patents did you have in your name when you graduated?

: )

Vision.

Some get it. . some don't.







By the way . . . . if you need a project . . .see if you can determine, when Erik designed this public transportation system with a solar energy collection system . . .how many years later the word "Sustainability" would join the vernacular.
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Guell
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is your point that the land rover company is owned by an Indian car manufacturer?

On the other hand I still wouldn't own a land rover or range rover after my parents disco 2
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court- he really should talk to DLM about that solar steam storage project. They're into the stuff: http://www.dlm-ag.ch

Steam storage locomotives ("fireless cookers") used to be pretty common in the U.S. where there was a readily available stationary steam source and/or where there were hazards due to sparks. They were used in Europe until much more recently. DLM has recently restored one of these locomotives to demonstrate its viability and has also built at least one steam storage road vehicle. Add solar to the mix and you could probably attract some serious interest.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This will help some . . .

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/this-p artnership-will-help-us-improve-our-own-capability -pawan-munjal/465571/
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Thomas The Tank Engine"
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

he agreement with Honda had ensured steady supply of technological assets which strengthen your position in the two-wheeler market in India. What kind of alliance are you looking at with EBR?
We are looking for multiple technological alliances, unlike a single joint venture partner we had earlier. We have formed a strategic partnership with EBR, which is a company based in the United States. The founder was a racer who started a company of his own to manufacture motorcycles. The outfit is far ahead on technological assets. Our visions are similar, we want the best for our customers in terms of environment sustainability and the technology we offer. In fact, Leap, the hybrid scooter we showcased at the Auto Expo, has been developed with the help of EBR.






I want an EBR Hybrid dual sport!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Danger_dave
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>I thought Victory was owned by Polaris, which was part of the BRP umbrella.<<

They all make Snowmobiles. Confuses everyone. :-)
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this is incredible (just incase anyone is wondering i am trying to subscribe to all these threads that i can....always something a little different in each of them LOL)

Jake
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F22raptor
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can hear it already..."You ride one of those corrie-grinders!"
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Ulyranger
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Thanks Dave! All those Canadians look alike to me."

Canadian? I thought Polaris was primarily an American company...

(not that there is anything wrong with Canandian products, Bombardier and BRP in particular is a fantastic company)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

News Quote of the Day regarding the EBR/Hero alliance:

quote:

New Delhi: Hero MotoCorp was formed when Honda diverged ways and broke its 26 years venture with the Hero Cycles and a new corporate was established. The company gave its first product as Hero MotoCorp Impulse and received accolades for experimenting on a new breed of motorcycles for the Indian market. Though, they lacked the excitement of a cross roader as they confusingly stated the bike for both enthusiasts and daily commuters, hence popping the bulge rightly ascertained.


"Popping the bulge rightly ascertained"? I think something was lost in translation.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"But what is more important is, they will help us in improving our own capability and enable us to become a self-sufficient engineering company."

I'm surprised a company of their size doesn't already have a competent stand-alone engineering staff. Doesn't India possess more engineers than anyone else on the planet?
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Syonyk
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many of their engineers are properly creative, innovative, forward looking types?

I'm sure they have some, but if their programmers are any guide, a lot of their people are good at implementing if they are told exactly what to implement, but are not that good at coming up with brand new ideas and ways of doing things.

Raw numbers doesn't mean much.

Honda has more engineers than EBR, but hasn't released anything nearly as radical recently.
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>I'm surprised a company of their size doesn't already have a competent stand-alone engineering staff.

HERO has one of the best Engineering groups in the world.

They were amazed at the things the folks at EBR are doing.

You will be too.
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For details about the Bombardier family . . .

http://bombardier.com/en/corporate/about-us/leader ship-team/details?docID=0901260d8000f006

It's an amazing company and, not unlike HERO, still controlled by the founding family.
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Whatever
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Head Explodey...

I don't think anyone can really wrap their head around this yet...

I know I can't. It is going to be a really interesting year!!!
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Xb1125r
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

personally I like companies that are not owned by families.
I like companies that allow their employees and public become owners of the companies.
greedy bastards
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Crackhead
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I prefer companies that are owned by their families, that means the company is in it for the long haul and not for the greedy wall street.
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