| Author | Message | ||
     Kenm123t |
Glock told me all I needed to know when they shipped the early guns in a tupperware container that fired the gun when you placed it in the container with a round chambered . That and the NY 23lb trigger pull. Cheap product for the throw away LEO market. They run pretty well decades later took long enough. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Well that sounds bad for the Glock. However my dad has a Glock 17 and my mom a CZ75B I have fired both. I prefer the CZ myself. Never heard of a 9 mm Glock blowing up before. May have happened just not to my knowledge. I also fired a Baby Eagle the other day it was nice as well. However I still love the CZ the best. Check one out! | ||
| D_adams |
I picked up a XDm .40 last week and took my teenagers out shooting on sunday. Both girls were able to shoot it with no problems once they got past the initial "but dad, it's COLD out here" part. Match grade barrel, so it's pretty accurate. At 25 yards, I can keep it inside a paper plate or the head on a silhouette target. I only had a slight breeze to deal with, so the target didn't move much, not like someone bobbing and weaving. It's probably a little too fat/wide for concealed carry, but it's pretty good for general defense, especially with the Hornady Zombie Max hollowpoints in it. The XDm is over what you were willing to pay though, mine was $700. Thought about picking up a 12 gauge mossberg while I was there and would have if they had one in all black. | ||
| Cowboy |
My daughter gave me a walther ppk 380) it is a very nice peace and shoots well,BUT damn I just cant trust that little thing does any one think it has enough power for protection? I am so use to my 40cal. | ||
| Jumbo_petite |
This is just a guess but with the Glock that blew up in the shooters hand I would suspect that the shooter was using unjacketed(lead) bullets. there is a BIG WARNING in ALL Glock owner's manuals that warn against the use of unjacketed lead bullets in their pistols, due to the polygonal rifling and the propensity for fouling and causing catastrophic failure (Message edited by jumbo petite on January 10, 2012) | ||
| Chauly |
... or hot handloads? | ||
| Littlebuggles |
According to the dept policy manual I've just been studying the NY trigger is only about 8lbs, not 23. I don't know anything about the gun case firing the weapon. We've just recently been allowed to go back to the stock six lb trigger, which is nice, the NY trigger was more of a two stage trigger. It was weird to shoot, I do better with the stock trigger. I plan on getting the 26 next. I want to take my wife to the range and have her shoot a PPK or Bersa and see how she likes it since I want to have a gun here for her that I can carry off duty as well. She's a dead shot with a 7 1/2 barrel .357 revolver. It's neat to see the old lady poking holes in the middle of an orange dot sticker at 15+ yards. That's a good point on the Glock with no lead rounds. Thinking about the mechanics, it's conceivable that the polymer and metal parts in the frame weren't bonded properly, allowing the slide to break loose. Or someone trusting too much in Glock's street rep put hot loads in there and the gun just wasn't up to it. | ||
| Sifo |
Plus the fact that Glocks have the ramp cut into the chamber slightly leaving a bit of the shell casing unsupported. From what I've heard this mostly becomes a problem with .40s. Coincidentally I was sorting some casings this weekend and saw one that was bulging noticeably. It happened to be a .40 that snuck into my 9mm bunch. I don't have any idea of it's history though. Being unsafe to shoot lead bullets is just one more reason for me to not get a Glock. | ||
| Cowboy |
I sure dont want to tell any one to get a Glock and have it blow up----How ever I have put more than 5000 rounds through mine with no problem how ever I only use FMJ amo. | ||
| D_adams |
It's a little big for most people to concealed carry unless you wear baggy clothes a lot.        | ||
| Kenm123t |
I can shoot the XDs very well but they just dont fit my hand too well. I have hi spot on my thumb joint that gets beat up after a coupla mags. CZ s are cool too Loved a the Dornas &Dixon early Bren tens pricey but good. 10MM has a hi pressure peak thats difficult for recoil operated auto pistols. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
The XDM kit is a great deal for the money if you're looking for a holster and clip holster. The XD's don't fit my hand well and I dislike the dovetail safety. Great guns, just not for me. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
I work part-time for a new Gander Mtn venture called "Gun World". We're the largest gun store in Wisconsin and I have access to literally, 6000 guns. That being said, I'm deciding on one of two guns. The Beretta 96 .40 cal or the P30S H&K .40 cal. I want either with night sites and believe it or not, I can get either from the MFG's for a 25.00 difference. Anybody have an H&K? I haven't shot one yet. (Message edited by buellinachinashop on January 11, 2012) | ||
| Jumbo_petite |
They're nice but I am unfamiliar with the latest models. The models I have shot had a choice of trigger variants V1, V2 and V3 if memory serves me correct. Familiarize yourself with the options and if possible shoot the variant of your choice before purchasing. (Message edited by jumbo petite on January 11, 2012) | ||
| Mnrider |
If the OP is considering a Berreta 92 and has a budget of 450 you may want to check into a Tauras PT92. The same thing as a Berreta but in the 450 range. I've had mine for 5 years now and am very happy with it. Mine has a rail that I mounted a XD flashlight holder and a Surefire LED flashlight. Shine that flashlight in someones eyes and they will be seeing spots for a while. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I've had a Taurus PT99 since 1992 or 1993. It has always worked great. By today's standards, it's a big and heavy gun, I think an exact copy of the old Berettas. Mine has wood grips and no white lettering, I like the looks better than the newer models. The grip fits my hand better than any of the conceal carry guns I've looked at, which is why I still own it. I hear griping about the newer Taurus semis, but my old PT is very reliable. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Some models of Taurus guns are better than the originals | ||
| Sort23 |
Kahr CW9 | ||
| Nukeblue |
kahr cw9, second that. thats what i may be known to carry | ||
| Txkblast |
I just bought a Ruger LC9 last night for concealed carry. Its lightweight and accurate for its size. Now I just need a good holster for when I ride. | ||
| Sifo |
I may have to reconsider what I view to be a concealed carry weapon. I had no idea that such a large weapon could be so easily concealed! http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/gun-hidden-in- butt-765912 | ||
| Spatten1 |
I just bought a Ruger LC9 last night for concealed carry Dammit, this thread got me going, I bought an LC9 too. Holster and grip on the way. I have a little remorse over not getting the Kahr, primarily because stainless does not rust, and I hate worrying about wiping down blued guns all the time. Other than that, I'll take the safety features on the LC9 all day over the shorter trigger pull on the Kahr. As long as the trigger pull does not affect my shooting much, I'll be happy with this gun because it's a great size for carry and all reports of reliability and accuracy are positive. I still haven't shot it yet, looking forward to killing some paper targets this week. | ||
| Slowride |
I read a story about the new Springfield XDS .45acp single stack. It is quiet impressive. http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/springfield-armory -xds/ | ||
| Cowboy |
9MM ???????? note mrs Giffords and another man shot with 9 MM in the head both survived. | ||
| Sifo |
That XDS looks like a nice piece! I couldn't find anything on their website yet. It's almost hard to believe what the review is claiming about it's manageability in such a small light package with .45 ACP. If I'm ever in the market for that sort of package it will be one to check out. As for the comment about Giffords surviving a 9mm to the head, I had the same thought when that happened. If she was a threat, that threat would have been neutralized though. I was curious enough to try to find out what type of ammo was involved though and did find that it was FMJ ammo. I think the same shot with JHP ammo would have most likely been fatal. The ammo does matter with smaller rounds. But still... | ||
| Ulyranger |
There is nothing wrong with 9mm in the right loading. | ||
| Cowboy |
I have one other queston ,I once had a 1960s shooters bible in it was a photo of a smith&wesson 41cal rim fire carried by Poncho Villa. as of late with all the searching I have done I cannot find out any thing on that revolver. does any one knowanything about this weapon. | ||
| Sifo |
Any choice you make is a series of compromises. If there was a single caliber and load that was perfect, everyone would go to that and it would be wildly popular. The closest thing to that IMO is the 9mm (just speaking of it's popularity). It's still far from perfect. | ||
| Spatten1 |
9mm practice ammo is the least costly. The LC9 is pretty small, smaller than the .40s I looked at, and easy to conceal. I have one box of good Hornady defense rounds. I hope to never shoot those bullets, but they should get the job done. | ||
| Spatten1 |
The LC9 is pretty small, smaller than the .40s I looked at, and easy to conceal. I do understand the need for high quality defense ammo if shooting 9mm. I have one box of good Hornady defense rounds. I hope to never shoot those bullets. |
